The final countdown to August 8th - your FDA comments NEEDED
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I have just sent in my final comment which reads as follows:
I am writing to ask you to not cripple, destroy or otherwise harm an industry I hold responsible for saving my life. My story. I smoked cigarettes for the better part of 40 years. 40 Years. Oh sure, I tried to quit. But was never successful for more than a few weeks or often days and then I'd be right back being an unhealthy pack a day smoker. I tried the patch. Didn't work. I tried the gum. Yuck, didn't work. I tried lozenges. You guessed it, didn't work. My loved ones hated being around me. My blood pressure and cholesterol was high. I was the proverbial ticking time bomb. But I still lit cigarette after cigarette. And oh yes, I knew I was on a spiraling path of purposeful self destruction. Most smokers know this all too well. Most are powerless to do anything about it.
One day I saw a nice young man puffing away on a cigarette looking device at a mall Kiosk. This was my first experience with an electronic cigarette, most often referred to as a Cigalike. I bought a system and tried so hard to give up smoking with this Cigalike system. But the taste was awful and I never felt satisfied. So try as I did, I continued to smoke.
Two years ago I walked into my first Personal Vaporizer Store and bought an Ego-T System and e-juice to try. The difference was amazing and while I've certainly improved the quality of the devices I use, I was finally able to throw my cigarettes away and I haven't had, nor wanted a cigarette since. And guess what? My blood pressure is now normal. My cholesterol is normal. I can breath. I can exercise. I can walk with my loved ones without becoming breathless. I don't get sick every other week. My productivity at work is higher. I am SO MUCH healthier as a result of switching permanently to electronic cigarettes and it's simply awesome. I don't stink and I'm no longer embarrassed to be with my non-smoking friends. I'm a safer driver. My fingernails are pink again! Electronic Cigarettes have given me a new lease on life. One I could only dream of, but one that seemed unattainable until I quit smoking evil tobacco by switching to electronic cigarettes.
So, I'm writing you because your pending regulations have me and I know millions of people scared to our core you intend to shut down a thriving and growing new industry in the guise of doing something good for public health. If the regulations you have proposed are adopted as written, you will NOT be doing something good for public health. In fact, you will be doing something very injurious to millions of Americans who with electronic cigarettes have enjoyed the same healthy successes I have.
You will put companies out of business who employ hard working Americans, who pay taxes, who buy homes, who buy groceries and cars and clothes, who eat at restaurants. These people have done more in a few short years to help people like me stop our slow suicide from the evils of tobacco. The reality is, the electronic cigarette industry has done in a very short period of time more than the FDA has accomplished in decades. Now don't get me wrong. I do believe the FDA has been a champion of smoking cessation products and education. Yet the statistics show that children are becoming addicted to tobacco products every day. By I believe your own admission, 1 in 5 Americans still smoke cigarettes. That's deplorable given all the work you have done to educate the public.
And here we are fearful your plan will take the one thing which has helped millions of us quit smoking away from us. Why would you do this? Could it have anything to do with the big tobacco lobby, who stands to lose more customers? They lose customers most often from smoking related deaths. And now with electronic cigarettes, they are losing customers who may no longer buy their tobacco products because they have chosen a healthier alternative in electronic cigarettes. But if you regulate the electronic cigarette industry out of existence by adopting your proposed regulations, big tobacco will most assuredly reap handsome profits from being the only outlet we consumers have left. Is that what your plan is? Is your plan truly inline with what is best for the health and safety of the people you are charged with protecting?
So, I come to you with the hopes the multitude of studies showing electronic cigarettes are not only NOT harmful, but in fact are helping millions, like me from smoking ourselves into early graves is a wonderful thing. Surely the FDA, who is charged with protecting and promoting public health should be happy to support something that is in reality providing a much healthier alternative to tobacco? You have the power to turn the clock back sending millions of Americans to their closest convenience store to buy cigarettes if your proposed regulations are adopted. I however, am a US Citizen who has high hopes you will do the right thing by encouraging an industry which is saving lives, not destroying them.
I am writing to ask you to not cripple, destroy or otherwise harm an industry I hold responsible for saving my life. My story. I smoked cigarettes for the better part of 40 years. 40 Years. Oh sure, I tried to quit. But was never successful for more than a few weeks or often days and then I'd be right back being an unhealthy pack a day smoker. I tried the patch. Didn't work. I tried the gum. Yuck, didn't work. I tried lozenges. You guessed it, didn't work. My loved ones hated being around me. My blood pressure and cholesterol was high. I was the proverbial ticking time bomb. But I still lit cigarette after cigarette. And oh yes, I knew I was on a spiraling path of purposeful self destruction. Most smokers know this all too well. Most are powerless to do anything about it.
One day I saw a nice young man puffing away on a cigarette looking device at a mall Kiosk. This was my first experience with an electronic cigarette, most often referred to as a Cigalike. I bought a system and tried so hard to give up smoking with this Cigalike system. But the taste was awful and I never felt satisfied. So try as I did, I continued to smoke.
Two years ago I walked into my first Personal Vaporizer Store and bought an Ego-T System and e-juice to try. The difference was amazing and while I've certainly improved the quality of the devices I use, I was finally able to throw my cigarettes away and I haven't had, nor wanted a cigarette since. And guess what? My blood pressure is now normal. My cholesterol is normal. I can breath. I can exercise. I can walk with my loved ones without becoming breathless. I don't get sick every other week. My productivity at work is higher. I am SO MUCH healthier as a result of switching permanently to electronic cigarettes and it's simply awesome. I don't stink and I'm no longer embarrassed to be with my non-smoking friends. I'm a safer driver. My fingernails are pink again! Electronic Cigarettes have given me a new lease on life. One I could only dream of, but one that seemed unattainable until I quit smoking evil tobacco by switching to electronic cigarettes.
So, I'm writing you because your pending regulations have me and I know millions of people scared to our core you intend to shut down a thriving and growing new industry in the guise of doing something good for public health. If the regulations you have proposed are adopted as written, you will NOT be doing something good for public health. In fact, you will be doing something very injurious to millions of Americans who with electronic cigarettes have enjoyed the same healthy successes I have.
You will put companies out of business who employ hard working Americans, who pay taxes, who buy homes, who buy groceries and cars and clothes, who eat at restaurants. These people have done more in a few short years to help people like me stop our slow suicide from the evils of tobacco. The reality is, the electronic cigarette industry has done in a very short period of time more than the FDA has accomplished in decades. Now don't get me wrong. I do believe the FDA has been a champion of smoking cessation products and education. Yet the statistics show that children are becoming addicted to tobacco products every day. By I believe your own admission, 1 in 5 Americans still smoke cigarettes. That's deplorable given all the work you have done to educate the public.
And here we are fearful your plan will take the one thing which has helped millions of us quit smoking away from us. Why would you do this? Could it have anything to do with the big tobacco lobby, who stands to lose more customers? They lose customers most often from smoking related deaths. And now with electronic cigarettes, they are losing customers who may no longer buy their tobacco products because they have chosen a healthier alternative in electronic cigarettes. But if you regulate the electronic cigarette industry out of existence by adopting your proposed regulations, big tobacco will most assuredly reap handsome profits from being the only outlet we consumers have left. Is that what your plan is? Is your plan truly inline with what is best for the health and safety of the people you are charged with protecting?
So, I come to you with the hopes the multitude of studies showing electronic cigarettes are not only NOT harmful, but in fact are helping millions, like me from smoking ourselves into early graves is a wonderful thing. Surely the FDA, who is charged with protecting and promoting public health should be happy to support something that is in reality providing a much healthier alternative to tobacco? You have the power to turn the clock back sending millions of Americans to their closest convenience store to buy cigarettes if your proposed regulations are adopted. I however, am a US Citizen who has high hopes you will do the right thing by encouraging an industry which is saving lives, not destroying them.
Thanks for clearing that up guys. I re-submitted my comment to the FDA website and emailed the tracking number to casaa. I hope other people who submitted to freetovape.org ( last i heard there were over 40,000 ) know to do that too. I didnt. I suspect it still went through with them because they sent me a docket number through email but it never hurts to be double sure.
I would imagine it did, there wouldn't be any benefit to not sending them on. Regardless you have made sure you are heard, good job!
BOOM!!!
Thanks. I could have and would have said more, but I used EVERY single character I was permitted to use!
And it was beautifully written and excellent points made!
And if that 40,000 gchirki posted is an accurate number they will have to take a very long time to read all that we've posted. Just seeing that number gives me a serious grin!!
And maybe this too: 
Thank you for the heads up on this. I submitted this, and emailed casaa my tracking number:
Thirty-six years. That is how long I was poisoning myself by smoking cigarettes. I wanted to quit; I kept trying, and I kept smoking.
I kept smoking even when I lost two uncles to lung cancer. I kept smoking even after I had to be the caretaker for my mom when she got lung cancer and eventually died from it. I kept smoking my 1-1/2 to 2 packs a day because I couldn't find a way to stop, even though I tried hypnosis, nicotine gum, patches, and cold turkey. Good grief, I was lighting up cigarettes while chewing the gum, and also while wearing the patch.
The "smoking cessation" businesses knew their products only helped a small number of people to quit and knew why, but they weren't really resolved to help people quit. To them, it was all about continuing to make a profit off of our misery.
The first time I heard of e-cigarettes, I thought it was yet another gimmick, but decided to research it a bit to prove me right. Fortunately, I read people's success stories online and decided to give them a try.
I tried those e-cigarettes that you purchase in the gas station that look like cigarettes and come in a basically one-size-fits-all approach. They did not help me for long and I still reverted back to cigarettes a time or two. After I was able to go to a vaping store a few towns away and purchase the vaping supplies that more fit my smoking habits, I was able to fully step away from cigarettes.
I am proud to say that I have now been free from cigarette smoking for one year on August 23! That's still hard for me to believe. You see, I gave up hoping I would be able to quit and resigned myself to the fact that I was, in all likelihood, going to face the painful and terrifying death that my mom and uncles had. I may still have that fate because of how long I smoked, but it doesn't have to be that way for others who haven't smoked as much or as long as I did. Please give them a fighting chance to break free from smoking and keep the variations of e-cigarettes readily available!
Only after my senses of smell and taste returned did I realize they were gone. I no longer hear the blood pumping through my veins. I no longer have such a hard time breathing and am able to run and play with my nephew longer, and I take my dog out for daily hikes in the woods.
Had Big Tobacco been the one to put the e-cigarette out, I wouldn't have bothered trying them. If Big Tobacco is the only way I am going to be able to get e-cigarette supplies, I won't purchase them. The reason for this is simple: I don't trust Big Tobacco, and I know I'm not alone in that opinion. They are only out for profits and couldn't care less about ME, my family, or my friends. Their products killed my mom and my uncles, and caused the suffering and death of millions of others. Yet, if you put stringent requirements on e-cigarettes, Big Tobacco companies are the only ones that will be able to produce e-cigarettes.
Without e-cigarettes, in all likelihood, I'll probably go back to smoking cigarettes. E-cigarettes gave me a fighting chance to put cigarettes behind me for good, and now I have to worry that you're going to take that away from me. Please keep them available on the local, small business level!
I've tried various flavored juices from different vendors in different strengths until I found the correct nicotine strength I need to completely do without cigarettes. I don't like the tobacco flavors so I vape coffee flavor, chocolate flavor, or any of a number of different flavors, depending on my mood.
Taking this opportunity away via stringent regulations will hurt small businesses, families, and consumers. I know the owner of the store where I go to buy my supplies employs at least three employees in that location and more in the other store she owns. She's a single mom who recently opened her second store. Your regulations will likely close her down, take away my options for the supplies and juices, and take away my opportunity to sample the juices before I buy. And that's just on the local level in my small town: Think about all of the other small businesses all across the nation! You hold the fate of many small businesses and their employees in your hands, so I hope you also fully consider what impacts your decisions will have on them, as well as the consumers.
Please keep in mind that these e-cigarette devices ARE helping people to quit smoking--the same people that the gums, patches, medications (in essence, the "smoking cessation") businesses did not--and we need to be able to have easy access to them to help us get away and keep away from cigarettes.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on something I feel very strongly about.
Thirty-six years. That is how long I was poisoning myself by smoking cigarettes. I wanted to quit; I kept trying, and I kept smoking.
I kept smoking even when I lost two uncles to lung cancer. I kept smoking even after I had to be the caretaker for my mom when she got lung cancer and eventually died from it. I kept smoking my 1-1/2 to 2 packs a day because I couldn't find a way to stop, even though I tried hypnosis, nicotine gum, patches, and cold turkey. Good grief, I was lighting up cigarettes while chewing the gum, and also while wearing the patch.
The "smoking cessation" businesses knew their products only helped a small number of people to quit and knew why, but they weren't really resolved to help people quit. To them, it was all about continuing to make a profit off of our misery.
The first time I heard of e-cigarettes, I thought it was yet another gimmick, but decided to research it a bit to prove me right. Fortunately, I read people's success stories online and decided to give them a try.
I tried those e-cigarettes that you purchase in the gas station that look like cigarettes and come in a basically one-size-fits-all approach. They did not help me for long and I still reverted back to cigarettes a time or two. After I was able to go to a vaping store a few towns away and purchase the vaping supplies that more fit my smoking habits, I was able to fully step away from cigarettes.
I am proud to say that I have now been free from cigarette smoking for one year on August 23! That's still hard for me to believe. You see, I gave up hoping I would be able to quit and resigned myself to the fact that I was, in all likelihood, going to face the painful and terrifying death that my mom and uncles had. I may still have that fate because of how long I smoked, but it doesn't have to be that way for others who haven't smoked as much or as long as I did. Please give them a fighting chance to break free from smoking and keep the variations of e-cigarettes readily available!
Only after my senses of smell and taste returned did I realize they were gone. I no longer hear the blood pumping through my veins. I no longer have such a hard time breathing and am able to run and play with my nephew longer, and I take my dog out for daily hikes in the woods.
Had Big Tobacco been the one to put the e-cigarette out, I wouldn't have bothered trying them. If Big Tobacco is the only way I am going to be able to get e-cigarette supplies, I won't purchase them. The reason for this is simple: I don't trust Big Tobacco, and I know I'm not alone in that opinion. They are only out for profits and couldn't care less about ME, my family, or my friends. Their products killed my mom and my uncles, and caused the suffering and death of millions of others. Yet, if you put stringent requirements on e-cigarettes, Big Tobacco companies are the only ones that will be able to produce e-cigarettes.
Without e-cigarettes, in all likelihood, I'll probably go back to smoking cigarettes. E-cigarettes gave me a fighting chance to put cigarettes behind me for good, and now I have to worry that you're going to take that away from me. Please keep them available on the local, small business level!
I've tried various flavored juices from different vendors in different strengths until I found the correct nicotine strength I need to completely do without cigarettes. I don't like the tobacco flavors so I vape coffee flavor, chocolate flavor, or any of a number of different flavors, depending on my mood.
Taking this opportunity away via stringent regulations will hurt small businesses, families, and consumers. I know the owner of the store where I go to buy my supplies employs at least three employees in that location and more in the other store she owns. She's a single mom who recently opened her second store. Your regulations will likely close her down, take away my options for the supplies and juices, and take away my opportunity to sample the juices before I buy. And that's just on the local level in my small town: Think about all of the other small businesses all across the nation! You hold the fate of many small businesses and their employees in your hands, so I hope you also fully consider what impacts your decisions will have on them, as well as the consumers.
Please keep in mind that these e-cigarette devices ARE helping people to quit smoking--the same people that the gums, patches, medications (in essence, the "smoking cessation") businesses did not--and we need to be able to have easy access to them to help us get away and keep away from cigarettes.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on something I feel very strongly about.
This is my story, got it in just in the nic-o-time (Nic-o-tine:
To: FDA Center for Tobacco Products
RE: FDA, Docket No. FDA-2014-N-0189, Regulatory Information Number (RIN) 0910- AG38
I am writing this letter to voice vehement opposition to regulation of electronic cigarettes & the liquids necessary to utilize same. I am a direct consumer of e-cigarettes & any regulation of these products would effect me specifically.
I was a 2 1/2 pack a day smoker of 30 years with no intention of quitting.
Even as I kiss my dear Mom, God bless her, I make sure I don't step on her oxygen line. I go to bed each night making sure the oxygen is still on. She felt smoking was her very special pleasure. Until they wheeled in three big oxygen tanks. The memories of all the good times smoking paled in comparison to the reality of the necessity of oxygen. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Even though I watched my father die a terrible death of lung cancer. He was my best friend, my hero and dearest confidant. It is the greatest of tragedies to see a beautiful life fade away as you inhale the object of that death in between shifts of your vigil, knowing that you are destined to the same fate if you keep smoking tobacco. But you still smoke, puffing away to relieve the stress of watching a needlessly senseless death.
That is the power of that little tube of burning combustible tobacco leaf, laced with thousands of chemicals. It's always been there, though so the power of denial mutes these obvious facts of lethality. So you smoke, when you are joyful and when you are sad. After a great meal after an awful day. That little thing never lets you down, it's ALWAYS there for you. Even when you're choking and wheezing every morning, "So what,", you rationalize between coughs and hacks "those tough old cowboys did the same thing". There has been such a stigma from the early to mid 20th century about cigarettes, how cool they are, macho, sexy, dignified or a plethora of other adjectives we used for our justification mechanism.
Then one day I saw an article about e-cigs. Several days earlier a telemarketer called trying to give me a free introductory e-cig starter kit.I didn't impress me but the ad I saw in the magazine, well it looked "cool". Yes we are receptive to advertising, even as mature adults.
SoI looked into it. Fascinating.Even though further research of the type of cigarette in the ad proved that those cigarette-looking (cig-a-like) things were grossly inadequate, It was a door that, when opened, changed my life.
It's been nearly 3 years now. I "vape" on a large customized e-cigarette with e-liquid that I make,safely, from liquid nicotine, Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin and natural flavors.
I exhale harmless vapor. Harmless for me & anyone around. No odor & no hazardous fumes as second-hand smoke does.
More importantly, I can breathe . I can smell & taste again. No more coughing jags or choking. My clothes don't stink & I don't stink. My lungs are completely healthy and the traces of COPD, though they were mild, do not threaten or restrict my life anymore.They are actually non-existent. My doctor thinks e-cigs are " a miracle".
Now I have absolute unrestricted freedom!
There was absolutely no adjustment of transition like nicotine patches, gum or psychoactive pharmaceuticals present as an unavoidable compromise to quit smoking.
As a long time smoker that is huge. The "psyching up" that occurs prior to trying quitting & then the blow to self esteem when it inevitably fails is double whammy.
That's my story.
I understand there is a threat to these things that saved my life (& millions of other's lives).
My question to you at the FDA is simply this:
Why do you want millions of us, dead?
Putting e-cigs out of reach is a death sentence to millions. Now & in the future generations to come.
Why will you sound our death knell under the guise of "it's for the children" or "our own good" ?
If you put E-cigarettes out of reach & restrictively regulated, we will, mostly go back to cigarettes.
And as I stated previously Nicotine patches, and gum are simply precursors to the failure mechanism that makes us just say"Oh forget it, none of that stuff works" and go back to inhaling death in the form of a cigarette.
I 'm told there is a concern regarding different flavors in e-cigarette liquid & the rationale is that this would make e-cigs appealing to those (read young people) that would not otherwise introduce nicotine into their system.
You realize that "the forbidden fruit is always perceived as the sweetest" especially to young people. Restriction, in this situation simply will not work. Remember "Prohibition?"& "War on Drugs"?
The hope is in education, accurate information regarding risks.
That's it.
A question;
Why do you want millions of us actually dead using the rationale that electronic cigarettes/liquids may, in theory, possibly cause addiction (but no physical harm) ; and if that's the logic, should I start hoarding coffee?
To: FDA Center for Tobacco Products
RE: FDA, Docket No. FDA-2014-N-0189, Regulatory Information Number (RIN) 0910- AG38
I am writing this letter to voice vehement opposition to regulation of electronic cigarettes & the liquids necessary to utilize same. I am a direct consumer of e-cigarettes & any regulation of these products would effect me specifically.
I was a 2 1/2 pack a day smoker of 30 years with no intention of quitting.
Even as I kiss my dear Mom, God bless her, I make sure I don't step on her oxygen line. I go to bed each night making sure the oxygen is still on. She felt smoking was her very special pleasure. Until they wheeled in three big oxygen tanks. The memories of all the good times smoking paled in comparison to the reality of the necessity of oxygen. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Even though I watched my father die a terrible death of lung cancer. He was my best friend, my hero and dearest confidant. It is the greatest of tragedies to see a beautiful life fade away as you inhale the object of that death in between shifts of your vigil, knowing that you are destined to the same fate if you keep smoking tobacco. But you still smoke, puffing away to relieve the stress of watching a needlessly senseless death.
That is the power of that little tube of burning combustible tobacco leaf, laced with thousands of chemicals. It's always been there, though so the power of denial mutes these obvious facts of lethality. So you smoke, when you are joyful and when you are sad. After a great meal after an awful day. That little thing never lets you down, it's ALWAYS there for you. Even when you're choking and wheezing every morning, "So what,", you rationalize between coughs and hacks "those tough old cowboys did the same thing". There has been such a stigma from the early to mid 20th century about cigarettes, how cool they are, macho, sexy, dignified or a plethora of other adjectives we used for our justification mechanism.
Then one day I saw an article about e-cigs. Several days earlier a telemarketer called trying to give me a free introductory e-cig starter kit.I didn't impress me but the ad I saw in the magazine, well it looked "cool". Yes we are receptive to advertising, even as mature adults.
SoI looked into it. Fascinating.Even though further research of the type of cigarette in the ad proved that those cigarette-looking (cig-a-like) things were grossly inadequate, It was a door that, when opened, changed my life.
It's been nearly 3 years now. I "vape" on a large customized e-cigarette with e-liquid that I make,safely, from liquid nicotine, Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin and natural flavors.
I exhale harmless vapor. Harmless for me & anyone around. No odor & no hazardous fumes as second-hand smoke does.
More importantly, I can breathe . I can smell & taste again. No more coughing jags or choking. My clothes don't stink & I don't stink. My lungs are completely healthy and the traces of COPD, though they were mild, do not threaten or restrict my life anymore.They are actually non-existent. My doctor thinks e-cigs are " a miracle".
Now I have absolute unrestricted freedom!
There was absolutely no adjustment of transition like nicotine patches, gum or psychoactive pharmaceuticals present as an unavoidable compromise to quit smoking.
As a long time smoker that is huge. The "psyching up" that occurs prior to trying quitting & then the blow to self esteem when it inevitably fails is double whammy.
That's my story.
I understand there is a threat to these things that saved my life (& millions of other's lives).
My question to you at the FDA is simply this:
Why do you want millions of us, dead?
Putting e-cigs out of reach is a death sentence to millions. Now & in the future generations to come.
Why will you sound our death knell under the guise of "it's for the children" or "our own good" ?
If you put E-cigarettes out of reach & restrictively regulated, we will, mostly go back to cigarettes.
And as I stated previously Nicotine patches, and gum are simply precursors to the failure mechanism that makes us just say"Oh forget it, none of that stuff works" and go back to inhaling death in the form of a cigarette.
I 'm told there is a concern regarding different flavors in e-cigarette liquid & the rationale is that this would make e-cigs appealing to those (read young people) that would not otherwise introduce nicotine into their system.
You realize that "the forbidden fruit is always perceived as the sweetest" especially to young people. Restriction, in this situation simply will not work. Remember "Prohibition?"& "War on Drugs"?
The hope is in education, accurate information regarding risks.
That's it.
A question;
Why do you want millions of us actually dead using the rationale that electronic cigarettes/liquids may, in theory, possibly cause addiction (but no physical harm) ; and if that's the logic, should I start hoarding coffee?
Very nicely said! I am so sorry to see the loss and horrible impact smoking has had on your family. Let's hope far fewer of us have to suffer the same fate.
I do so hope that these stories touch everyone that reads them the same way that they touch me.
They are truly from the heart.
Thank you for opening yourselves up and letting us in.
They are truly from the heart.
Thank you for opening yourselves up and letting us in.
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte.
I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.
Blaise Pascal. Provincial Letters: Letter XVI, 4 December, 1656. [English Translation]
And it was beautifully written and excellent points made!
And if that 40,000 gchirki posted is an accurate number they will have to take a very long time to read all that we've posted. Just seeing that number gives me a serious grin!!
39,927 according to their site
Makes me happy tooWell, typed in my last comment for this round of regulations, though I'm very tempted to comment on ANTZ posts things like "Speaking as a user of electronic cigarettes, I too would be horrified to see them marketed to children. Happily, despite looking carefully, I've never seen actually seen such a thing" or "We former tobacco users are your allies, not your enemies, and want to see everyone cease filling their lungs with tar. Unfortunately, you've set your party line so as to make us the villains here".
Actual comment:
I'd really love to hear some estimate as to how many pro-vaping comments have been submitted but not yet uploaded to the site. My own first comment from Tuesday is still not available.
Actual comment:
I'd really love to hear some estimate as to how many pro-vaping comments have been submitted but not yet uploaded to the site. My own first comment from Tuesday is still not available.
Thank you! That is my hope as well. There's more I would have liked to have said, but that will have to suffice for now as I was running out of available characters.
Just posted my 16 cents worth, didn't know I had so much to say.
Hey Hoosier - 1600 days, Wow man that's something
Keep the spirit, Red
Hey Hoosier - 1600 days, Wow man that's something
Keep the spirit, Red
This is my story, got it in just in the nic-o-time (Nic-o-tine:
That really got to me. If it doesn't get to them, they have hearts of stone.
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