Ban from this subforum not the entire ECF. They wouldn't be able post anything here, or read this forum if they are logged on. ECF ban will only occur if you break ECF rules.
I still believe a true newbie's time are better spent outside this subsection (learn about vaping, learn about ECF "culture" and etc) and this subsection should be only accessed by users with proven track record in ECF (similar to classified access) who acknowledge and promise to abide by specific rules/conditions for this subsection. Those who repeatedly fail to adhere to the rules should have their access taken away.