The Golden Age of Vaping

[Vapo Marx]

I may be new to this but one thing that became obvious to me pretty quickly is that I picked a good time to get into vaping. Consider this:

1. In many places, there are few restrictions on vaping and no punitive taxes. (I realize this is probably going to change very soon, unfortunately).

2. The state of the art has advanced to a level where the better devices and juices deliver an experience that can meet or exceed the satisfaction gained from smoking tobacco. Even at the lower end of the market, you can get a very good vape at a modest cost if you do your homework and avoid the junk. Vaporizers across the board seem to be getting better all the time.

3. A dazzling and ever-increasing variety of products are available at all price levels from a substantial number of vendors.

4. The market is wide-open and innovation abounds. Any entrepreneur with a good idea and a little start-up capital can become a player.

5. The market is growing and will continue to grow. The attrition factor present in the tobacco industry (i.e., customers dying from the product) does not appear to be a factor here. Even if very few people who didn't smoke before take up vaping - and that's probably not something that should be encouraged, anyway - there's a LOT of smokers in this world who... um, don't want to die.

So, do you think these are the good ol' days we'll be looking back upon wistfully a few years from now, or is the best yet to come?

 

[WeakSauC3]

I certainly hope the best is yet to come. I think we have some fantastic equipment and ingredients available to us at the moment, and I hope it continues to grow. All hope aside, the sad truth seems to be that we're headed toward a darker time for vaping. Can you imagine vaping supplies and equipment being taxed and regulated like tobacco? I live in boston and as far as vaping indoors goes, they identify ecigs as tobacco products. Some places don't care, but for the most part I'm told to go outside to vape.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Can you imagine vaping supplies and equipment being taxed and regulated like tobacco?

That's my fear. While I do believe that some regulation is good - i.e., any product that is to be ingested by humans or animals should meet certain standards for purity and safety - I'm not optimistic about governments stopping there. And of course, just the fact that vaping LOOKS like smoking is enough reason, in their minds, for them to restrict and tax the s**t out of it. I've considered how I could continue vaping in a "doomsday scenario" and I've realized that the only thing that could be problematic is the nicotine. All the other ingredients in juice - PG, VG and flavorings - and the components to build a crude PV of some sort, those are things they can't really ban.

 

[tjmax]

The people who vape kinda already regulate the products. By coming here and educating you self, by reading reviews and finding out what is good and what is not.

The only real reason the governments and all these groups give a .... about it is one very simple thing.

Money.

Governments are loosing a crap ton of income from people stopping cigs. see the premise is they tax your cigs to pay for YOUR health care... yea right .. meanwhile the SMOKER will never see a penny of their tax dollars back its not like they are putting it in the bank for YOU for when YOU get sick.

They say they want people to quit but the act of quitting lowers their income.. ohh crap.. now they have a problem...

E-cigs are doing just that for many and faster then expected for most. The special interest groups who have been battling cigs all this time are starting to loose their reason to fight so now e-cigs are the new evil.

Its like the crazy crap the Mayor Michael Nutter out of Philadelphia tried to do. After he got all his smoking bans in place he tried to big brother people in other aspects of their lives.

A Soda Tax specifically - Because soda is bad for you.

During my 2010 budget address, I proposed a sugar-sweetened beverage tax of two-cents-per-ounce for the first time. My hope was to impose a tax on retailers based on annual sales volume.

We anticipated the tax would generate $77 million annually which we could use to fund a concentrated health initiative geared toward combating obesity.

Keeping in mind my six year effort for smoke-free legislation, we came close to passage that year.

In 2011, with Philadelphia’s School District facing a significant budget shortfall, I reintroduced the sugar-sweetened beverage tax. At two-cents-per-ounce, this time on distributors, we believed it would close the budget gap.

Each time we introduced the sugar-sweetened beverage tax, we faced determined opposition from the beverage industry.

Our struggle centered on trying to garner public support and Council votes for the tax– but ultimately, the tax proposals didn’t pass.

He tried twice more after that and failed.


Nicotine is not a tobacco specific substance. It is in all forms of nightshade plants. many of those plants are food. For Instance Potatoes, tomatoes, sweet and hot peppers, eggplant, tomatillos, tamarios, pepinos, pimentos, paprika, and cayenne peppers are all classified as nightshade foods and contain nicotine. They all also contain alkaloids. They can impact nerve-muscle function and digestive function in animals and humans, and may also be able to compromise joint function.

You don't see them banning spaghetti or vegetable soup do you?

You can find bad in almost every thing we consume. its what can they make money on that will piss off the least amount of people.

 

[fccwpe]

Both you guys are right on the money. Literally.

 

[Vapo Marx]

RE: Nightshades, it's funny but I love every food you listed. Maybe there's a connection

"It's what can they make money on that will piss off the least amount of people" hits it right on the head. Over the years, smokers became the minority that it was OK to persecute so most of the general public didn't utter a word of complaint when tobacco use was taxed and restricted beyond any sane person's standard of "reasonable." We can't let that happen to vaping. People need to know that one more vaper equals one less smoker and that people who really want to see the use of tobacco end should SUPPORT vaping, if they must take a stance at all.

 

[tjmax]

RE: Nightshades, it's funny but I love every food you listed. Maybe there's a connection

People need to know that one more vaper equals one less smoker and that people who really want to see the use of tobacco end should SUPPORT vaping, if they must take a stance at all.

They will never make that connection with out big backers on vapors side.

We need Obama to quit smoking and start vaping.

Someone send that man a starter kit!

ohh ohh lets make a patition ;P

 

[tj99959]

Only bad part right now is that you can go broke in a hurry if you want to try everything that's available.

 

[White Rabbit]

People in the know, realize that using electronic cigarettes is MUCH better for you than burning tobacco products. Even my doctor listed me as a non smoker when she learned I quit and am now using electronic cigarettes. As the truth comes out in further research (we all expect it to be positive) the stigma and mystery of vaping will disappear and we will then enter the Golden Age of Vaping. There are still many innovations to be discovered such as better e-liquids, delivery methods and exotic steam pipes.

Vape On Guys and Gals
Wabbit

 

[CheekyChica]

All very good points. As long as the "right" people can profit off of it based on popularity. Thats going to be the fight. Its all about wealth and power. When you have alot of money, next you want power/control/status.

 

[cdub_edmond]

The innovation over the last year has been amazing. The critical piece will be getting this recognized as a smoking cessation alternative. Presently "big tobacco" would like to umbrella vaping as a tabacco product for their own profits. We as a community will be the ones to stop them, and that will be a hard measure to achieve. More people have to become more active. Here in Oklahoma the pressure has been building rapidly. Stocking up on my DIY products just in case!!

 

[gmmopp]

It is amazing how many internet shops and B&M stores have popped up recently. I have signed up with CASAA and will definitely try to do my part. It's funny that I was not this involved when I was a smoker.

 

[Tatsel_Morte]

Yeah. Big Tobacco sees our strides too. Why do you think Lorillard bought out Blu? They know they're slowly, not so slowly at this point, losing the war and so they have to get in while they can. Must be scary knowing the pharmaceutical side of his businesses will take a dive for his tobacco based ones huh? Because that's the irony of it: Many big tobacco companies also fund/run pharmas as well. Just like the FDA is supposed to regulate food and drugs, but many of their more influential members own, operate, or at least have interests in food and drug based companies, including of course Big Tobacco, and McDonalds, and Tyson, and Monsanto; you see where this is going? It's a big scary rabbit hole of epic proportions...

 

[amiga]

yep its a golden age alright and if bt and bp get there way it will all go underground here in the uk

 

[Tatsel_Morte]

yep its a golden age alright and if bt and bp get there way it will all go underground here in the uk

Same in the U.S. mate. If it comes to that, I say we all just get together and cover as big an area as possible in vape while we watch it spiral

 

[jefsview]

you never know what tomorrow will bring.

Enjoy today.