The iHybrid APV - A fully Customizable Genesis

[BoyNamedStacy]

Wassup Stacy how ru doin bro?What kind of store did you search for it at?

Yo Lugie! I'm doing great dude, thanks. I failed at the local shop but got a couple sizes from wimlabs. PM for deets if you want although I see Monty found bad news about Pyrex I'm not sure boscilasite (sp?) is Pyrex or not?

Happy turkey day everyone! I hope you all get some quality time with the fam. And of course some good food, too! Speaking of food...

I mean, she is a bird dog after all

 

[jonnyblatt]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Hope everyone stays safe and stuffs their face tonight.

Wow that Red looks great!!

Once again. Everyone have a good day. May your day be filled with laughter, lots of food, lots of Vapor, good friends, family time and your team wins today!! See you all later.

Thank you for the VC pics!

You got a great shot of us....

 

[TechJ]

I have to agree with Ezkill on this one. Working with small batteries without good knowledge of what the effects are can be dangerous.
Small batteries have limitations and much less variance for error than larger batteries rated for much higher amperage discharge ratings. The AW IMR 18650 has around a 20amp max safe discharge current limit if I remember right. This allows someone to push the 20watt envelope much safer than pushing an 18350 past 10watts into a danger zone for the inexperienced.

Things to know about your batteries.

Every lithium based battery has a max / minimum voltage
The capacity of the battery is rated in milliamperes hours (mah)
The maximum charge and discharge rates should also be known ( c rating )

The formula for figuring out your batteries amperage rating is amps x c rating.
Ex. The 18350 has a capacity of 700mah or .7 amp hours.
The maximum discharge rate is 8c
.7 A x 8c = 5.6A

Pushing a battery at its maximum limits shortens the lifespan ( cycles ).
It also shortens the useable time it will sustain a useable voltage.

If a 700mah or .7ah battery is used at a .7A draw it will last approx 1 hour continuous.
Take that same battery and apply a 5A draw and it now lasts approx 8.4 minutes continuous.

 

[TechJ]

Damn... Did I kill the conversation here?

 

[TechJ]

Bird dog indeed.

My Heeler will do just about anything for a morsel of heavenly bacon.

 

[BoyNamedStacy]

Damn... Did I kill the conversation here?

Nah tech! I think peeps are either cooking or spending time with the fam. Your battery info is valid and appreciated. I learned a lil something even

 

[Tanks]

I have to agree with Ezkill on this one. Working with small batteries without good knowledge of what the effects are can be dangerous.
Small batteries have limitations and much less variance for error than larger batteries rated for much higher amperage discharge ratings. The AW IMR 18650 has around a 20amp max safe discharge current limit if I remember right. This allows someone to push the 20watt envelope much safer than pushing an 18350 past 10watts into a danger zone for the inexperienced.

Things to know about your batteries.

Every lithium based battery has a max / minimum voltage
The capacity of the battery is rated in milliamperes hours (mah)
The maximum charge and discharge rates should also be known ( c rating )

The formula for figuring out your batteries amperage rating is amps x c rating.
Ex. The 18350 has a capacity of 700mah or .7 amp hours.
The maximum discharge rate is 8c
.7 A x 8c = 5.6A

Pushing a battery at its maximum limits shortens the lifespan ( cycles ).
It also shortens the useable time it will sustain a useable voltage.

If a 700mah or .7ah battery is used at a .7A draw it will last approx 1 hour continuous.
Take that same battery and apply a 5A draw and it now lasts approx 8.4 minutes continuous.

Thanks for this information! I never realised how important it is to understand the properties of electricity and batteries. Looks like I have some reading to do. Hitting the library tomorrow! Thanks for sparking my interest!

 

[TechJ]

I am an outside machinist / mechanic /millwright by trade and I have a great interest in electronics. I get a lot of my electronics experience through my passion for radio controlled vehicles. Often I use lithium polymer batteries with amperage ratings of 500-1000amps with motors ranging from 100-1000+ watts. If you don't have a bit of knowledge it is easy to burn down a few grand in electronics and your kit ( auto /aero / marine / robotics ).

 

[Ezkill]

Thanks for this information! I never realised how important it is to understand the properties of electricity and batteries. Looks like I have some reading to do. Hitting the library tomorrow! Thanks for sparking my interest!

Just read the reference links. It's all been discussed in detail, with sample calculations through the course of this thread. I've given a lot of explanations over the pages as have others. Ohms law is pretty basic and it's not really complicated at all.

I've always been an advocate of knowing what you are doing as you are holding something to your face a few hundred times a day. These batteries hold a lot energy and do have physical limits. Safety should be a concern for all of us and having a basic understanding of what you're playing with can only be a good thing.

 

[jonnyblatt]

Well said, very well said.

Just read the reference links. It's all been discussed in detail, with sample calculations through the course of this thread. I've given a lot of explanations over the pages as have others. Ohms law is pretty basic and it's not really complicated at all.

I've always been an advocate of knowing what you are doing as you are holding something to your face a few hundred times a day. These batteries hold a lot energy and do have physical limits. Safety should be a concern for all of us and having a basic understanding of what you're playing with can only be a good thing.

 

[ATX]

Happy Turkey Day everyone! Hope you're all enjoying some time with family and/or friends and some killer grub.

 

[DarklyNoon]

Had to work today, can't really complain tho, getting double time and a half for working today and tomorrow.

 

[CHARGER72]

What did monty find out about pyrex?

 

[BoyNamedStacy]

It's not safe for this purpose. It can crack and explode potentially. Fused quartz is the way to go if glass is going to be used.

 

[CHARGER72]

Ok I will ask in here. Does anyone see a cartoon indian face on my avatar? Feathers up

 

[Tat_skull]

Ok I will ask in here. Does anyone see a cartoon indian face on my avatar? Feathers up

I see a Wicked Driptip

 

[Tat_skull]

It's not safe for this purpose. It can crack and explode potentially. Fused quartz is the way to go if glass is going to be used.

Now I have to see if I can change my order before it ships

 

[Hock A Lugie]

Sorry I skimmed over the previous posts and didn't quite understand the use of the insulator. I assumed it was for the coil beings thermal transfer was a consideration for the material type

On a second note did you ever get an opportunity to look at the Motörhead ideas I sent a while back?

You mean Gearhead,rite Techj!

 

[Tat_skull]

You mean Gearhead,rite Techj!

Or maybe he did mean Good ol'...

 

[Hock A Lugie]

Yo Lugie! I'm doing great dude, thanks. I failed at the local shop but got a couple sizes from wimlabs. PM for deets if you want although I see Monty found bad news about Pyrex I'm not sure boscilasite (sp?) is Pyrex or not?

Happy turkey day everyone! I hope you all get some quality time with the fam. And of course some good food, too! Speaking of food...

I mean, she is a bird dog after all

Thanx Stacy hope you have a good turkey day!