The infamous Clapton coil

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Patrick1500

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So could someone explain to me why a Clapton coil is so much more stronger than a regular Kanthal coil? I have troll rda on a iPV4S, a 26/32g coil with 5 wraps and it comes out to .23 ohms. I vape 3mg juice like a train all day on 24g Kanthal but 2 tokes from this coil and it knocks me on my .... I just want to know why it's so much stronger than regular Kanthal.
 

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What do you mean by more surface area? Is it because the coil is thicker that it's vaporizing the juice faster and stronger?

That thinner wire wrapped around the 24awg core, all those little nooks and crevices open more wire to juice surface contact, more juice in contact with hot wire vaporizes faster. The 24awg is doing most of the heating, about 33% of the vaporizing, the smaller wire is doing 0% heating, but 77% of the liquid vaporizing getting its heat from the 24awg.
 
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SomeTexan

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More surface area means more vaporization. Like a bigger carburator, more fuel means goes faster.
The first part is right, the last part, not so much... Bigger carb flows more air, jetting in any carb controls the fuel. It's only more hp if you can use it. Sorry, I've raced my whole life and built some big hp engines, over-carbing them will hurt them more than under carbing them.
 

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So the fatter and tighter the coil, the more it vaporizes the juice?

Not really. You could make a 30 gauge coil at 4mm and not vaporise as much as a 24 gauge coil that wrapped at 3mm. Its about surface area, let me try another analogy. Water will vaporizer faster in a 10 inch skillet then a 6 inch skillet. The 10, although it has more water in it, will boil off sooner because there is more surface area of boiling going on. When it comes to nic, the more you are vaporizing, due to a physically larger coil, means there`s more nic contained in each pull off the mod.

BOL.
 

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So the fatter and tighter the coil, the more it vaporizes the juice?

It's more complex than that.

Think of the coil in terms of how much wick it covers. Take two coils with the same inside diameter of 2.5mm, one is 5mm wide the other 10mm wide. Lets say the 5mm wide coil can produce 20 watts of heat at 180mW/mm and evaporate the eliquid optimally. Now take the 10mm wide coil, which has twice the surface area and make it produce 20 watts of heat, you will get 90mW/mm^2 of surface area. So with the wider coil you need to use twice the power(40W) to hit the same surface temperature or 180mW/mm^2.

Now assuming the wicking can keep up, you will evaporate twice the eliquid with the 10mm wide coil at twice the power.

Now with Clapton coils you get a bit more surface area with the same width. Not as much as most people think you do because the liquid that capillary action draws into the nooks and crannies is vaporized within the first second, after that the difference is minimal. Now if you are only taking a one second puff that would matter.

The cost of this slight increase in surface area is thermal mass. The wrap wire does not conduct much current at all so it is only acting as a heat-sink for the wire it is wrapped around. This causes the heat-up time to slow down dramatically unless a lot of power is applied.

This is basically two ways to achieve the same goal. Make the coil wider or for short fast bursts wrap it in small wire.

Making the wick wider is more efficient but once you wrap a coil that is as wide as the air slot the only way to gain surface area is to wrap it in small wire.

Also contrary to popular belief, wrapping a 10mm wide coil with 28awg will have more coil to wick contact than a 10mm wide coil made with 22awg wire.

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Where they really shine is in all their inert heat sinking mass. Unless someone comes up with a much much faster way of feeding liquids to the coils - Claptons are one of a few ways to waste enough power to allow people the illusion of "vaping at 200 watts".

Claptons won't get remotely close to their heat emitting potential before any wick is bone dry and on fire.

Unless one uses hollow wires, surface area comes at the price of a multiple of mass. Which is what diminishing returns are made of.
 
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