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101vape has the VV V3 in stock, but only in black. Aaarrrrrgh.

I'm still waiting for the pearl chrome, but it's frustrating.......

I'm not paying more than $25, since I KNOW they will eventually get what I want in stock for that price.....

Sorry, just venting.

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Supply & demand drive the prices. The best price I can find is here: Joye eGo Rechargeable Batteries

I bought one of mine from them on a Black Friday deal so I got it a couple dollars cheaper. You're much more patient than I am if you can wait until the next Black Friday.

You only get the battery on the above deal which wasn't an issue for me since I don't like the iClear 16 & I have several micro usb chargers. I did buy a second VV from Vapingtown on ebay with the little retractable charging cord but they are only showing the full kit now.
 

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Future new owner, without reading thousands of posts about this little beast what should I know?

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Its awesome, I bought one of these as a begginner vapor, it was too much when I was first a beginner, but now I am getting used to it. Let me just say this, it will blow some massive clouds. Most of the time I run it pretty low, around 7, 7.5 watts. When I am feeling spiffy I bump it up to 10 watts, or even 11 every now and then (Make sure your wicks are full of juice, you don't wanna have a mouthful of burnt liquid) and man she chucks the vapor, literally. Its is definately worth the price, although, the only downside is the battery life. as a beginner it lasted me all day..now since I have been vaping longer I smoke more of it and the battery life is "fair" I would suppose for an 800 MaH battery. But you can vape on it while its charging!!! When I am on my computer I just leave it plugged in and vape off of the charge, when I am out I am fully charged and ready to go. Its nice to say the least!.
 

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Its awesome, I bought one of these as a begginner vapor, it was too much when I was first a beginner, but now I am getting used to it. Let me just say this, it will blow some massive clouds. Most of the time I run it pretty low, around 7, 7.5 watts. When I am feeling spiffy I bump it up to 10 watts, or even 11 every now and then (Make sure your wicks are full of juice, you don't wanna have a mouthful of burnt liquid) and man she chucks the vapor, literally. Its is definately worth the price, although, the only downside is the battery life. as a beginner it lasted me all day..now since I have been vaping longer I smoke more of it and the battery life is "fair" I would suppose for an 800 MaH battery. But you can vape on it while its charging!!! When I am on my computer I just leave it plugged in and vape off of the charge, when I am out I am fully charged and ready to go. Its nice to say the least!.

Bumping it up will definitely lower the battery life over a day. Keep it low and it could last you all day. I believe most in here like theirs so much they have more than 1. I have two and I am considering a third!
 

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So here is a question that I'm not sure how to get the answer to about ohms/resistance and voltage and wattage.
Disclaimer: Kids I don't recommend you try this at home.

If I am using a tank with a resistance of 0.9ohms, and I have my lovely Innokin iTaste VV set at 5v.
What is the real deal wattage that I am vaping at???
Is it 5v-squared/0.9ohms = 25v/0.9ohms = 27.78 watts???

The resistance on this tank can fluctuate and be 0.8ohms. My lovely is still vaping it. Gets kinda hot.
But at 0.8ohms, I should be at 31.25watts. I know there is some type of limiting circuitry on my lovely for idiots that would try things like this. Is this real??? Who can test and tell me?

I've done the math but what is the real deal???
 

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    First order for this place. Opened new account. Filled basket. At the lower part of the "cart" page, has billing and shipping address info. Neither has my City or Town displayed. Unsettling.

    Called them, they said "Hmmmm". I said I don't feel comfy ordering unless you're confident this is not an issue. They said " OK". End of call.

    Bummer.
     

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    This is different. No ego threading??? Ive recently switched to using carto's & carto tanks almost exclusively so it wouldn't be a big deal for me but im curious-why haven't I seen this version before? Im constantly looming at vape shops online and todays the first time ive seen it. It looks nice and no need for beauty rings... Maybe ill get one, i love my vv v3...
    Supply & demand drive the prices. The best price I can find is here: Joye eGo Rechargeable Batteries

    I bought one of mine from them on a Black Friday deal so I got it a couple dollars cheaper. You're much more patient than I am if you can wait until the next Black Friday.

    You only get the battery on the above deal which wasn't an issue for me since I don't like the iClear 16 & I have several micro usb chargers. I did buy a second VV from Vapingtown on ebay with the little retractable charging cord but they are only showing the full kit now.
     

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    Your drawing over 3.5 amps, so the battery is limiting output to 3.5 amps.

    This device is not designed for sub ohm vaping.

    Personally I wouldn't use this for anything under 1.5 ohms.

    If you want to get into sub ohm vaping (which I have ZERO knowledge of) there are plenty of people who can help you.

    sub ohm vaping is usually in the realm of mechanical mods because most regulated mods will not allow you to draw the extreme current you can draw on a sub ohm coil.
     

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    Odd, Ive ordered from them along with many of us on.ecf and no issues... Seems like a strange response from them :(
    First order for this place. Opened new account. Filled basket. At the lower part of the "cart" page, has billing and shipping address info. Neither has my City or Town displayed. Unsettling.

    Called them, they said "Hmmmm". I said I don't feel comfy ordering unless you're confident this is not an issue. They said " OK". End of call.

    Bummer.
     

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    The VV has a limit of 3.5 amps and your at 5.56 amps so I'm surprised it's firing at all. At 0.9 ohms and 3.5 amps, you would be at 3.15V which is under the voltage minimum, which is 3.3V. So it's odd it would fire at all.
    So here is a question that I'm not sure how to get the answer to about ohms/resistance and voltage and wattage.
    Disclaimer: Kids I don't recommend you try this at home.

    If I am using a tank with a resistance of 0.9ohms, and I have my lovely Innokin iTaste VV set at 5v.
    What is the real deal wattage that I am vaping at???
    Is it 5v-squared/0.9ohms = 25v/0.9ohms = 27.78 watts???

    The resistance on this tank can fluctuate and be 0.8ohms. My lovely is still vaping it. Gets kinda hot.
    But at 0.8ohms, I should be at 31.25watts. I know there is some type of limiting circuitry on my lovely for idiots that would try things like this. Is this real??? Who can test and tell me?

    I've done the math but what is the real deal???
     

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    omg, yesterday I got a lil rebuildable dripper in mail. Put it on my mvp v2 and it read .6 ohm (in preinstalled wick. I was like woah... Do you know if thats normal? I mean normal as in is the mvp meant for that kund of resistances/vaping??? The firing button lit up green and stayed lit for a few seconds. Hadn't seen it do that before. so I inscrewed it rba and put it aside til I have time to tinker. Im not very experienced in rba's and not experienced at all with sub ohm or super low ohm vaping. It shocked me, so I haven't done anything else with it yet.. If it matters its the firefly, got a small one just to try and for use in my vv v3 but should I be worried about using it on my vv v3 with that preinstalled coil? Id hate to mess up my pretty pearly battery... I love my itaste vv v3 :)
    Your drawing over 3.5 amps, so the battery is limiting output to 3.5 amps.

    This device is not designed for sub ohm vaping.

    Personally I wouldn't use this for anything under 1.5 ohms.

    If you want to get into sub ohm vaping (which I have ZERO knowledge of) there are plenty of people who can help you.

    sub ohm vaping is usually in the realm of mechanical mods because most regulated mods will not allow you to draw the extreme current you can draw on a sub ohm coil.
     

    Peter_C

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    I agree completely about carto tanks... I used one or two in the beginning of my journey prior to sufficient research and was discouraged by having under saturated my carts. So, I gave up. Used every clearo/tank etc. I bout all the tools to learn rebuilding coils for my kanger stuff but still never found total satisfaction. Early DecemberI decided to give cartos another try and I have been in vaping heaven ever since. And It has simplified things for me that all my rebuildable stuff is in the junk drawer for now. Carto tanks are awesome... Now if I could get verified to use the classified section I would love to PIF while getting a little bit of my $ back so I could stock up on cartos I would be even happier... Right now theecig.com has free, yes FREE tank tubes, you just need to pay 2.99 shipping. Only able to get 10 or they will cancel your order... I grabbed some tank ends while I was there as a thanks for freebies... I wont need a new tank for a long while (when I got my vv v3 I ordered a few glass dct's)... Can you share a link to the 'thingys' you are referring to and maybe a link showing how to use them? I sure would appreciate it! :)

    IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us!

    You get a free thingy with every tank you buy, plus you can buy them alone if you like. Be sure to read how to fill a carto by using your thingy - works perfectly for me.
     

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    You asked.....Here's how wattage, resistance, voltage all mix together.

    Before we start, Watts at the coil is what produces the flavor, higher wattage -> Higher Temperature -> more flavor and more vapor (until you go too high and burn the juice....)

    Ohms Law and Watts Law state the following for a simple DC circuit. Watts = Voltage*Current.... Current = Voltage/Resistance. So Watts = Voltage*Voltage/Resistance

    When you had an Ego Stick Battery or unregulated battery, The voltage output of your battery was fixed. Thus the only way to coax out more temperature at the coil was to lower it's resistance. This is why people use 1.8 ohm coils or lower on standard non regulated batteries. If Voltage remains constant, then when resistance goes down, Watts goes up...More flavor, More Temp.... Problem is. It's not easy to set the resistance to a coil. Once it's "wrapped" it's pretty much set. So you are stuck with buying a lower resistance coil from the manufacturer, or coiling your own heads.

    So The Variable Voltage Battery came into play. I can't easily change resistance, but I can raise voltage. Thus if resistance stays constant, when I increase voltage, I increase wattage. Much easier for us to control the flavor. Most people simply set their batteries at a low value and then bump up the voltage until it "tastes right". If you already know what your coil resistance is, and what Wattage you want at the coil, then you can calculate what voltage you need to get to your target wattage. There are also Voltage and resistance tables online that allow you to have a good starting point for your adjustments.

    One little problem with variable voltage. Let's say I take off one tank and put on a new one....Even though Kanger, Innokin, or whoever says that it's a 1.8 ohm coil, it can actually be up to .3 to .4 ohms different. So when I put on my new tank with it's atty and take a draw at my desired voltage, all of the sudden, the vape is not as intense, or tastes burnt. This is because resistance varies from coil to coil. It can also vary over the life of the coil. So with variable voltage, you have to continue to tweak your settings when you change atty heads or as the atty head ages.

    Here's where Variable Wattage comes in. Let's say I discover that I like vaping a particular juice at 7.5 watts. I may have discovered this using variable voltage....(4.3 volts, 2.5 ohm resistance). So now I set my Variable Wattage to 7.5 watts. The device will measure the coil resistance and then automatically adjust the volts up or down to produce 7.5 watts. If I put my juice in a new tank, and the atty head changes resistance, I still get 7.5 watts and the same flavor....If my coil changes in resistance over time...I still produce 7.5 watts and my flavor stays consistent.

    So that's how resistance plays into the whole variable voltage/variable wattage discussion and why lower resistance heads are preferred on standard non regulated batteries.

    For a simple explanation of ohms law...See below:
    Ohms Law - A simple explanation

    A great explanation to be sure~!

    I only wish to add a couple of minor details, which also happen to re-enforce why VW is so hot...

    Depending on the quality of the coil in use, resistance can and does change from hit to hit, as on the low quality coils, as the wire itself heats it *changes* just enough to go from say 1.8 to 1.9 or 1.7 - some folks can't notice such a small change, and others can. The point being is if you are trying to get the most consistent vape from hit to hit, VW is the way to go.

    Then you have stuff like voltage sag, where during that 9 second pull something in the setup will cause either resistance to change, or voltage to sag slightly (or both), changing the flavor of the pull. With VW everything is watched at all times so that the watts is the same from pull to pull, and from beginning to end of each pull.

    The above is why some 'devices' simply vape better than other devices.

    Anyhow, dunno if my blatherings help or hurt...
     

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    I'm not sure what you mean by adjusting for a drop in voltage (sag). If the voltage drops it's not like your PV can change the resistance to maintain a set wattage. If your voltage drops, your wattage will drop as well. If you mean that if your battery voltage has dropped it will maintain the same output voltage I'd agree, but the same is true with VV.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean by adjusting for a drop in voltage (sag). If the voltage drops it's not like your PV can change the resistance to maintain a set wattage. If your voltage drops, your wattage will drop as well. If you mean that if your battery voltage has dropped it will maintain the same output voltage I'd agree, but the same is true with VV.

    This is what comes from reading too much. I am not an electronics guy at all, I just read a lot of info every day. I am sorry if what I wrote is bad info, I honestly can't say either way, as I'm sure I am confusing something I read.

    In thinking about it, what you said makes sense to me, as if resistance is fixed, the only way to change watts is by changing volts,and to my understanding a APV can't *change* the resistance of the coil, only read it and adjust volts/watts...

    Good catch:) My goof.
     

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    omg, yesterday I got a lil rebuildable dripper in mail. Put it on my mvp v2 and it read .6 ohm (in preinstalled wick. I was like woah... Do you know if thats normal? I mean normal as in is the mvp meant for that kund of resistances/vaping??? The firing button lit up green and stayed lit for a few seconds. Hadn't seen it do that before. so I inscrewed it rba and put it aside til I have time to tinker. Im not very experienced in rba's and not experienced at all with sub ohm or super low ohm vaping. It shocked me, so I haven't done anything else with it yet.. If it matters its the firefly, got a small one just to try and for use in my vv v3 but should I be worried about using it on my vv v3 with that preinstalled coil? Id hate to mess up my pretty pearly battery... I love my itaste vv v3 :)

    Just got back home with my vape mail from ............com Strawberry, Pralines and Cream, and a free 6ml peanut butter sample. I could taste REAL fresh strawberry and even the green stem on a coworkers Strawberry and Cream. ECF10 discount and Friday specials are free shipping!!! Woohoo! The lovely VV will not fire at <0.8ohms on the coil. Don't even waste your time. Shoot for 0.9 and you're probably good. I used kanthal 32guage wire, 4/5 wrapped around a 5/64 drill bit. Cotton wick. Amazing difference. I first pushed to 11watts. No dry hits. After doing the math I switched to 5volts. The heat picked up significantly. The juice got so hot, with chain vapes, it was ejecting up and through the drip tip.... Not so cool. I haven't worked out how to wick well and not stifle the draw. Maybe a hybrid cotton/silica wick arrangement. No burned hits but I went through a tank and the battery in less forty-five minutes. 5v definitely gave me more vapor and heat initially than 11watts. I wasn't sure what the limit was and if I was really pushing 30watts. Thanks for the information. If the responses are correct, then by my calculations I was vaping at 17.5watts. Yes???
     

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    I agree completely about carto tanks... I used one or two in the beginning of my journey prior to sufficient research and was discouraged by having under saturated my carts. So, I gave up. Used every clearo/tank etc. I bout all the tools to learn rebuilding coils for my kanger stuff but still never found total satisfaction. Early DecemberI decided to give cartos another try and I have been in vaping heaven ever since. And It has simplified things for me that all my rebuildable stuff is in the junk drawer for now. Carto tanks are awesome... Now if I could get verified to use the classified section I would love to PIF while getting a little bit of my $ back so I could stock up on cartos I would be even happier... Right now theecig.com has free, yes FREE tank tubes, you just need to pay 2.99 shipping. Only able to get 10 or they will cancel your order... I grabbed some tank ends while I was there as a thanks for freebies... I wont need a new tank for a long while (when I got my vv v3 I ordered a few glass dct's)... Can you share a link to the 'thingys' you are referring to and maybe a link showing how to use them? I sure would appreciate it! :)

    Kinda confused.... Are those polycarbonate tanks or pyrex???
     

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    I don't know what was your resistance? There things aren't made and shouldn't go over 3.5 amps (as far as I know). So if you're able to do this I'd be afraid I'd fry something.

    Let's see-> I * V = W = 3.5amps*5volts = 17.5 watts--> W * R = V^2 = 17.5watts * 0.8ohms = 3.74 volts

    Something is not adding up....
     
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