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AndriaD

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I was wondering... does anyone have some kind of chart that shows equivalencies between voltage and wattage? Not talking about the one that also includes ohms, I've got a copy of that one... I just need a way to correlate voltage settings with wattage settings, because I'm ......ed at math, so formulas really don't do anything for me.

Mainly I need this because when I first start on my Virginia in the morning, if I'm using my vv3 instead of my sigelei, the vv3 doesn't have a low enough wattage setting, 6w is a bit too high (on the sigelei I generally start at about 4.5-5w), so on the vv3 I have to switch over to voltage till I can handle the throat hit. It would be nice to know at what voltage it's safe for me to switch over to wattage, because I generally prefer to use the variable wattage than the voltage; my coils are all over the place in resistance, so the wattage is really helpful for a math ...... like me.

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There is no direct conversion from volts to watts. Actually, watts are almost imaginary. What does exist are volts, ohms and amps.

Watts is a "measure" of power consumed, and exists only by calculation. With a given, unchanging resistance, higher volts will yield higher watts, because it draws more amps. (or milli-amps.) Lowering the resistance without changing the volts will consume more amps, and therefore a higher wattage will calculate out. But that's not practical for vaping unless you're willing to dump the juice and make a new coil...

So no easy answer to your question, Andria. Just start low and work up. Although you're probably ok to switch back to VW mode once you get around 4 volts or so...
 

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I was wondering... does anyone have some kind of chart that shows equivalencies between voltage and wattage? Not talking about the one that also includes ohms, I've got a copy of that one... I just need a way to correlate voltage settings with wattage settings, because I'm ......ed at math, so formulas really don't do anything for me.

Mainly I need this because when I first start on my Virginia in the morning, if I'm using my vv3 instead of my Sigelei, the vv3 doesn't have a low enough wattage setting, 6w is a bit too high (on the Sigelei I generally start at about 4.5-5w), so on the vv3 I have to switch over to voltage till I can handle the throat hit. It would be nice to know at what voltage it's safe for me to switch over to wattage, because I generally prefer to use the variable wattage than the voltage; my coils are all over the place in resistance, so the wattage is really helpful for a math ...... like me.

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Andria

It will very much depend on the resistance of the topper to answer this question properly.

A great resource is the following Web site:

Wattage, Voltage, Amp Calculator

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Depends.

I have a 1300 ego twist, MVP, VV3 (actually between me and the wife 2, 3 and 3). I perceive that the MVP gives the best, then the VV3 and the twist. But not so much that I pick one over the other. I keep the twist around 3.7-3.8 volts, the other two on 7 watts, for toppers with 1.8-2.2 coils. For my genesis tanks and dripper, 4.0 volts.

The VV3 battery is not going to give you the vape time of the 900 but I plug mine into the lighter outlet while driving or charger at my desk.

Paul, by "... the MVP gives the best...", do you mean best run time, or the best tasting vape? Or some combo of those two and others? Most of my vaping is at home where I don't have to worry so much about battery life, tank capacity or ruggedness of the setup, so optimizing for the best tasting vape is usually my top priority. That said, I've found the VV3 travels quite well -- with a Kanger Aerotank Mini topper, it even fits in my front jeans pocket without sticking out . (And I'm only 5'6" so my pockets aren't all that tall, relatively speaking.)

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I've got that chart; frankly I can't even figure out how to read it, given my extreme ......ation in all things mathematical. I can do accounting, bookkeeping, budgeting... but formulas? Give me a break! When I see a formula, it turns into greek right before my eyes. I can't figure out what goes where, or what I'm trying to arrive at... um, purple? Because aliens don't wear hats?

Thanks for that calculator link, Brook... that really DOES help! Apparently by the time I can increase to 3.4 volts, I'm safe to go on over to 6w, at least with this particular 1.9 ohm coil (which should be quite long-lived as I made it from 28ga wire). I've added it to my chrome booksmarks bar, so I can get to it easily anytime I need it.

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Paul, by "... the MVP gives the best...", do you mean best run time, or the best tasting vape? Or some combo of those two and others? Most of my vaping is at home where I don't have to worry so much about battery life, tank capacity or ruggedness of the setup, so optimizing for the best tasting vape is usually my top priority. That said, I've found the VV3 travels quite well -- with a Kanger Aerotank Mini topper, it even fits in my front jeans pocket without sticking out . (And I'm only 5'6" so my pockets aren't all that tall, relatively speaking.)

-Kevin

As I understand, and I'm no expert or even that bright, VV/VW mods use boost circuits to get over 4.2 volts from a 4.2 volt battery. How it does this is very good or not so good depending on the mod maker. I think some boost in peaks and valleys that give a so-so vape and the MVP, Provari and VV3 give a more consistent boost that results in a better vape during your puff. And they don't fall off as the battery runs down. Watching some pbusardo video he tested something that didn't even put out what the setting was set at. So in my opinion, the Provari is the best you can get but the MVP and VV3 are great values in a disposable mod.
 

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As I understand, and I'm no expert or even that bright, VV/VW mods use boost circuits to get over 4.2 volts from a 4.2 volt battery. How it does this is very good or not so good depending on the mod maker. I think some boost in peaks and valleys that give a so-so vape and the MVP, Provari and VV3 give a more consistent boost that results in a better vape during your puff. And they don't fall off as the battery runs down. Watching some pbusardo video he tested something that didn't even put out what the setting was set at. So in my opinion, the Provari is the best you can get but the MVP and VV3 are great values in a disposable mod.

Yep, and that flat output signal is why I'm sticking with the VV3 for the time being, since at the instant I don't need the higher wattage or run time of the MVP or Provari. (Actually now that I think about it, I don't think the MVP actually is a higher wattage device, just longer batt life.) It looks like the output voltage of the new(ish) Sigelei 20W is also well-filtered, so although it probably also gets its voltage boost via PWM -- pulse width modulation, that's what makes those peaks and valleys -- the final output voltage signal that the atty actually sees is pretty close to flat, like the MVP and Provari. I was seriously thinking about getting that Sigelei, but 1) I've got the feeling its successor is going to be following very closely on its heels, which argues for patience, and 2) it's got a boost circuit, so it can go higher than 4.2V/whatever-watts-that-comes-out-to-be based on the resistance of the atty you're using, but no buck circuit, so it may not be able to fire at as low a wattage as I might want in certain situations. (I'm thinking if I want a mod with a buck-boost circuit and a well-filtered, ergo flat, output, I may have to build it myself. If I ever find the time. In the meantime, I'm happy with my slowly growing collection of VV3's. :)

-Kevin
 
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Yep, and that flat output signal is why I'm sticking with the VV3 for the time being, since at the instant I don't need the higher wattage or run time of the MVP or Provari. (Actually now that I think about it, I don't think the MVP actually is a higher wattage device, just longer batt life.) It looks like the output voltage of new(ish) Sigelei 20W is also well-filtered, so although it probably also gets its voltage boost via PWM -- pulse width modulation, that's what makes those peaks and valleys -- the final output voltage signal that the atty actually sees is pretty close to flat, like the MVP and Provari. I was seriously thinking about getting that Sigelei, but 1) I've got the feeling its successor is going to be following very closely on its heels, which argues for patience, and 2) it's got a boost circuit, so it can go higher than 4.2V/whatever-watts-that-comes-out-to-be based on the resistance of the atty you're using, but no buck circuit, so it may not be able to fire at as low a wattage as I might want in certain situations. (I'm thinking if I want a mod with a buck-boost circuit and a well-filtered, ergo flat, output, I may have to build it myself. If I ever find the time. In the meantime, I'm happy with my slowly growing collection of VV3's. :)

-Kevin

I saw a Sigelei 30w just tonight... IronVapin on eBay has 'em -- I got my KFL+ clone from them, and they are terrific, sent me a new allen thingie for the airflow because the one in the kit didn't fit, sent me some more of those tiny o-rings on the fill screw because the first one shredded in 2 wks -- highly recommend doing business with them.

Andria
 

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Got my Anyvape Mini Davide today. Looks great on the VV and vapes nice.
Also came up with some 'Theme' holders for my Evods.

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Copper reducer and a black iron reducer.
Just recycled junk from the fittings box.
Yea, its a slow night.
 

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Just wanted to let you lovely people know that I truly love the Aspire BDC glass tanks. Really great flavor for this taste-impaired person. Thanks for the various recs and tips I got for using them!
I had gotten an Aurora a while back and somehow it didn't seem to be working right..but last night I think I finally got it to deliver. It's hard to screw that mushy little bottle to a hard piece of metal(especially when filled with a viscous liquid)!
 

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Also came up with some 'Theme' holders for my Evods.

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Copper reducer and a black iron reducer.
Just recycled junk from the fittings box.

Speaking of "holders"...this fella' is rebuilding (at 17:30) his eXpromizer (similar to a Kayfun) head and has it "screwed into" a holder (about the size of a dessert plate).

Anyone know where I could order this "dessert plate with 510 threads" holder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YFtV52ONGE
 

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Guess I am getting caught up in this whole enviroment.

When I am looking in my old fittings bucket for a repair job,
in the back of my mind, I am wondering if I can use it for any of my vaping needs.

Knew it was getting bad when I was installing a chill water coil and it got me thinking about a different
build for my friends Kayfun.

This Has Got To Stop!

Naw...
 

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Guess I am getting caught up in this whole enviroment.

When I am looking in my old fittings bucket for a repair job,
in the back of my mind, I am wondering if I can use it for any of my vaping needs.

Knew it was getting bad when I was installing a chill water coil and it got me thinking about a different
build for my friends Kayfun.

This Has Got To Stop!

Naw...

How about a picture of the design, you might be on to something big! :laugh:
 
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