Also, I moved away from the micro coil in the Kayfun.. went back to a standard coil and more cotton. No more dry hits halfway through a tank using NETs.. in fact, my latest build, I am on the bottom of my third tank, using NETs...
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Also, I moved away from the micro coil in the Kayfun.. went back to a standard coil and more cotton. No more dry hits halfway through a tank using NETs.. in fact, my latest build, I am on the bottom of my third tank, using NETs...
See... exactly what I mean.. Most who 'love the KF' have old tanks.. Of course it beats those.
(not picking on you, nice, just an example)
If you can't get a KF build right you will probably be back here telling us dual coil vivi novas make drippers obsolete.
I agree, but for me, some builds just come out better than others. I think three components are necessary for a successful Kayfun build... I think the single most important thing to get right, is to determine the right thickness/length of wick material.
I use rolled cotton. Small variations in wick mean the difference between a successful/unsuccessful build. I had to play a bit with wicking to get it right. I learned that different juices require more/less wick material, depending on the viscosity of the juice.
I think coil height is the second most important thing to get right is coil- one to two mm's centered directly above the air hole is critical.
lastly- adjusting the correct air ratio. Too tight and flooding can be an issue; too loose and dry hits can be an issue...
if I get these things right, while overcoming the challenge of securing my coils with tapered post screws, I'm never disappointed. ..
FYI on the tapered post screws- I just put one full wrap around the screws and the wire stays secure. This can get a little tricky but practice makes perfect (until I can find bottoming screws)
Happy Vaping my friends!
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I don't know what brand my KF is... Looks like a 3.1, was the first batch sold by FT early November 2012. Maybe it's the EH Pro, the build quality is excellent.
I usually build with 32, don't use microcoils because local cotton is not organic (dangerous). I'll try rebuilding with 28 ga next time, and 3 mm wick instead of 2mm.
I usually build with 32, don't use microcoils because local cotton is not organic (dangerous). I'll try rebuilding with 28 ga next time, and 3 mm wick instead of 2mm.
Is doing a normal coil where the coils are more spaced out better for Kayfun? I've been doing the micro coil thing on mine but I remember doing a normal coil my first try and it wasn't that bad. I just went to micro because I thought it would be a lot lot better and always wanted to improve it. Maybe I will try it later.
EHPro Kayfun Lite V2 Clone is an amaaaaazing atty when used correctly. I've vaped all the better Kanger/Nautilus/Dual Coil tanks but the flavor of the Kayfun is amazing. Its a very easy build, first time rebuildable. Its not a fad, but the standard. Then it'll be the next great design. LOL then I drip when I'm at home. Need to check out the Veritas design, hear its amazing 
It is for me and the NETs I use.. With the micro, the wick was just clogging up too fast and burning..
I'm using my own nets and having burnt cotton issues. I went with 5/64" bit 28g kanthal and a 1/4" strip of cotton pad. Works OK. But I would love to here more details of you build, I guess its a macrocoil?
are you pinching the coil at all...or leaving it be like one would when building up a silica wick? besides the lack of dry hits, any drop in flavor/vapor production/TH/etc?
The best suggestion I could think of would be to take to a b&m and let them build it for you. The few around here would for a very nominal fee as in maybe 5 dollars. That way they can show you first hand the coil they use and wicking style. I've got mine down to a science with 28g 9-11 wraps depending on juice I stay between 1.4 and 1.6 ohm the kfl seems to give its best performance in that range. If I'm using my mech i shoot got 6-8 wraps and 0.8 ohms.
Also I use a piece of wire cut off a wire cost hanger-2mm diameter to wrap my coils - wicked with either cotton or rayon. For cotton I use a thin roll and let it just dip to the floor- leaving the juice channel wide open.
I'm sorry you're having so many issues but 99.9 percent of the issues I've seem people have with a kfl is due to wicking. That seems to be the one thing it's finicky at.
Either that or maybe you got a bad clone some of the cheap fast tech I've seen pictures if have very badly carved channels leading into the evaporation chamber. I'm guessing on that as i stick to ehpro or hcigar for a trial then buy authentic. Unless I find a good deal on a real RBA.
In any event I won't say it's the BEST vape I've had but it is definitely one of the tops add in its consitency and portability and it is a superb vaping device when built at least close to right and paired with the right power source.
If a ce4 or whatever else you had mentioned as a prefab tank is better than your kfl would you be interested in selling it?
Also I use a piece of wire cut off a wire cost hanger-2mm diameter to wrap my coils - wicked with either cotton or rayon. For cotton I use a thin roll and let it just dip to the floor- leaving the juice channel wide open.
I'm sorry you're having so many issues but 99.9 percent of the issues I've seem people have with a kfl is due to wicking. That seems to be the one thing it's finicky at.
Either that or maybe you got a bad clone some of the cheap fast tech I've seen pictures if have very badly carved channels leading into the evaporation chamber. I'm guessing on that as i stick to ehpro or hcigar for a trial then buy authentic. Unless I find a good deal on a real RBA.
In any event I won't say it's the BEST vape I've had but it is definitely one of the tops add in its consitency and portability and it is a superb vaping device when built at least close to right and paired with the right power source.
If a ce4 or whatever else you had mentioned as a prefab tank is better than your kfl would you be interested in selling it?
Well; think this May be your issue.
"was the first batch sold by FT early November 2012"
As a general rule with most things the first run is going to be the most problematic, remember yugo?
Yeah a lot of people don't
If you've been fighting with this thing for two years maybe it's time to try a different one. I'm all about not admitting defeat and being a principles person. But when you have a mass produced product that a company just wants to shove out the door to people waiting to throw money at them, you're bound to have a few bad products slip through the cracks. Especially when you're making them as cheap as possible to maximize profit and have no quality control in the factory. I aplaid your spirit of sticktoitness but after this much time maybe we should try a new plan. I would take it a b&m see if they can get a good build, make that your Hail Mary pass and if not I would get a different clone. One from a company known for quality either the two I've mentioned or artemus. His black edition (not black) is just plain awesome.
-just looking at it as devils advocate and a business person.
The new ehpro and hcigar (V2) clones are damn near the build quality of the authentic and vape just as well; the black edition V3 has made a fee small alterations to the authentic design and vapes much better in my opinion. As to flavor I've had some RTAs that put out better flavor but not as dense a vape; the taifun comes to mind on that. But overall a good high output frequency regulated mod with a kayfun is about the best vape you can get by most peoples standards.
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I'm not going to try to tell you how to fix your coil/wicking problems, you've already gotten plenty of that. I just want to add to the discussion by saying, I don't see any fads here. What I do see is that each new and innovative design as a step forward in the progression of vaping equipment. Each have their merits and flaws, but were clearly an advance over it's predecessors. Will any device ever be the "be all end all" for every vaper, I don't think so. But, with each advance we gain more options to choose from and that to me is the best part.
Try turning that coil vertical, with a 5/64" ID and tight coils, placed directly over the air hole, instead of threading the wick through the coil, surround the coil (preferably with hemp fiber), I think you might love it
gotcha. I've been suspecting the microcoil method might speed up and even out the heating of the coil, but also increases the chance of dry hits.
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