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[Zazie]

I tried to keep my comments to a dull roar with the warden, as I was scared he'd shove me in a cell. But then, he was talking alot about the "suicide dog" they brought in to like, "cheer up" the prisoners "it happens a lot" (he said it smugly.)

I said, "Oh gee, did you know the juvenile prison has close to zero suicides because they watch carefully, isolate them, put lead aprons on them etc." Isn't that actually cheaper than a dog, also, if anything could make me cry and become suicidal in a prison it would be hanging with a cute dog for 20 minutes and then it leaves. I vote for the aprons."

Also I suck as a caretaker of prisoners I was eating snus the WHOLE TIME. I had it contrabanded carefully in my bra. I was not about to GIVE it to any prisoners I needed it for me and having to walk/stand on concrete for like 5 hours straight.

Warden was garrulous. He made us late for lunch WE HAD A TYPE ONE DIABETIC in the group, They were all like "We don't let the diabetics have their commissary money because they won't eat healthy." (Earlier.)

Then they were like, "We really need to get this done can you eat something out of the vending machine?"

It was at that point where I was like, "THIS PLACE DEFINES hypocrisy, fear, and lack of civility. I asked for an escort to the Social Work Area, and they said they would but they didn't. I went on my own. No one questioned me also I did not get eaten by a zombie convict, then I grabbed THE REST of my contraband out of my locker and just left. The diabetes thing.... It left me speechless. I started to say "YOU DON'T LET PRISON--" and then I was like fine if diabetes lady wants this job she can HAVE it.

No warden dude just like had a FREAK out at me a couple times but I was like "Well, he seems to genuinely love his prison and hate the prisoners so I'm probably safe."

I bet that snus was like a felony or something. However, I kinda needed it.


The warden talked about contraband and how some worker started out giving a prisoner a stick of gum, the naked pictures and her address and money and some other crap, I forget. BUT he was like "it can be as simple as a stick of gum to start." And I was like, "Oh for the love of Christ, anyone who would be that dumb should turn herself in honestly.

But, Gum. Very very bad.

I mean, it was one of those such improbable stories, honestly, that as it built you wondered, "Is life actually real?"

I wonder what stories I would have had if I like worked there a week but I did ask the social work department if they had ever been fully staffed and they were like, "No." And my uppity self was like, "I could possibly do some good here if not interfered with, but like, JUST NO I am better than this." Sigh.
Anna

How do lead aprons help prevent suicide? Not being snarky; sincerely curious.

 

[T0mmy1977]

They prevent suicide, but give you lead poisoning.

 

[bombastinator]

How do lead aprons help prevent suicide? Not being snarky; sincerely curious.

That one sounds weird to me. Lead aprons are to prevent sterility from repeated exposure to directional low grade radiation.

 

[Zazie]

That one sounds weird to me. Lead aprons are to prevent sterility from repeated exposure to directional low grade radiation.

Yes, and I doubt if exposure to such radiation is a suicide method of choice. Talk about patience!

 

[Toronnah]

That one sounds weird to me. Lead aprons are to prevent sterility from repeated exposure to directional low grade radiation.

Unless a weighted lead vest is the modern version of a lead ball chained to the ankle.

 

[bombastinator]

Unless a weighted lead vest is the modern version of a lead ball chained to the ankle.

Point. I should have said “generally used”

 

[Zazie]

Unless a weighted lead vest is the modern version of a lead ball chained to the ankle.

But it would be a big help in a hanging.

 

[Toronnah]

But it would be a big help in a hanging.

Unless you're now too heavy to lift yourself up.

 

[stols001]

How do lead aprons help prevent suicide? Not being snarky; sincerely curious.

Really almost impossible to hang yourself, and sort of hard to move in general. It also sort of calms you down, if you are actively psychotic. (In my opinion but in my less well controlled days I had a straightjacket. It was immensely helpful to my fractured senses you have to be careful though like, the husband had to stick around. But 50 minutes in one of those was as good as an antipsychotic frankly,)

Lead apron not quite that level but it still restricts you from unwise decisions to an extent.

Prisons ARE horrible, don't get me wrong. I cried the night I got home because my kid spent one night there. I do sometimes use humor as a defense, but there are plenty of moms who don't get that luxury, usually the ones with less ferocious lawyers and less money. It's not fair.

My kid said he would do himself in if he had to stay more than a week. This was mainly due to his fibromyalgia and his inability to treat it. I was really terrified that it was going to happen, but I also would not have blamed him. Or any prisoner.

The US prison system is absolutely AWFUL.

Anna

 

[Zazie]

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

 

[Zazie]

Really almost impossible to hang yourself, and sort of hard to move in general. It also sort of calms you down, if you are actively psychotic. (In my opinion but in my less well controlled days I had a straightjacket. It was immensely helpful to my fractured senses you have to be careful though like, the husband had to stick around. But 50 minutes in one of those was as good as an antipsychotic frankly,)

Lead apron not quite that level but it still restricts you from unwise decisions to an extent.

Prisons ARE horrible, don't get me wrong. I cried the night I got home because my kid spent one night there. I do sometimes use humor as a defense, but there are plenty of moms who don't get that luxury, usually the ones with less ferocious lawyers and less money. It's not fair.

My kid said he would do himself in if he had to stay more than a week. This was mainly due to his fibromyalgia and his inability to treat it. I was really terrified that it was going to happen, but I also would not have blamed him. Or any prisoner.

The US prison system is absolutely AWFUL.

Anna

I can see how a lead apron could be soothing. I always find the lead bib they throw on you at the dentist before an x-ray relaxing. I get the straitjacket, too, except for the inability to scratch itches. It would work like swaddling or Temple Grandin's hug machine.

 

[stols001]

Yeah the worst hospital I was ever in "refused" to use straight jackets and quiet rooms. They had one, but you couldn't be IN it.

They literally stood around letting me destroy hospital property (not to mention my hands and feet) trying to TALK me out of it. I was like, "Um, you may not have noticed I am not in a talking or a COMPREHENDING mood...."

You know, being in that kind of state.... It gives you a different perspective really.

The quiet room at the state hospital was AWESOME. I do not believe it had ever had a good cleaning and some really terrible stuff happened in there. I had synesthesia at the time, and I think I might have passed out for a while. But, you know, when the lady brining me my meds said I could crawl out of there and I asked how much time had passed, I was not in any kind of mood to open my mouth, nose, or destroy anything, I went and lay under my bed for a long time.

That is kind of normal behavior for after THAT quiet room so they didn't hold it against me and let me out shortly thereafter.

There are things to be said for state hospitals, and I say them. There are times I need horrible things to happen, not art therapy.

Anna

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Maybe wearing a lead apron feels like a never-ending hug? I certainly find that weight reassuring when in the dentist's chair.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Maybe wearing a lead apron feels like a never-ending hug? I certainly find that weight reassuring when in the dentist's chair.

I wouldn’t want a never ending hug
Also don’t like the idea of having excess weight on me in the dentist chair. strange how what you find reassuring and comforting I couldn’t stand

Although, I do like that little cup of mouthwash you get

 

[HigherStateD]

They specially market things exactly like that for pets, especially during thunder storms. Forget the name, but there is a late night infomercial.

 

[Zazie]

They sell weighted blankets for people, too.

 

[stratus.vaping]

..SNIP..
I've watched shows on prisons in England, older ones, but they are still all about rehabilitation.

US prisons are not. Unless you call making (insert whatever) for pennies on the dollar to help pay for your stay, but I do not.

UK prisons and the Probation Service do not have the budget to rehabilitate anymore. Some of it is privatised to security companies who's motivation and aim is profit, what a surprise.

Suicide, drug use, assault, murder, rape, gang rule and everything else you can imagine are sharply increasing.

Great story Anna it illustrates the problem, you did the right thing.

 

[Nermal]

They specially market things exactly like that for pets, especially during thunder storms. Forget the name, but there is a late night infomercial.

I forget, too, but they're either called thunder coats or thunder blankets.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I forget, too, but they're either called thunder coats or thunder blankets.

Really haven't read this thread but insomnia... saw @Nermal made a post so looked.

It's called a Thundershirt.

Our dog has gotten extremely insecure. It a 50% his problem, 50% we didn't take his long range insecurities (which we NEVER saw coming) into consideration. A lot of it was out of my control.

He, and we, were at the end of our rope and finally got him a cheap version of a Thundershirt. His anxiety decreased quit a bit. It beats doping him up, especially in the summer when the meds can't regulate his heat.

These weighted blankets have helped everything to cows being sent to slaughter to humans with night stress. Heck, I sleep better at night in the winter with heavy blankets than in the summer with only a sheet and the AC blasting.

Just thought I add this, hope it helps some stressed pets.

 

[Nermal]

Aw, shucks.