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The Orchid clone has arrived!!!
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Wow just checked in on this thread BC I just got mine this afternoon. To my surprise, I thought this thread would be flooded with great reviews!!!
I am absolutely loving my Orchid. I have pretty much every variety of KFL, clone and original. This Orchid clone is a beast.
I have to lower my nic it hits so well!!!
I have no leaks...I am used to top filling BC I do that with all of my KFLs. Sure u loose a little capacity but I find the speed at filling without tools worth it.
For those experiencing leaking, I suspect it is due to not making sure a little wick is in each chamber and not TOO much as the opposite would occur: Choke
The other possibility is loose connections, chimney base or cross threaded tank.
Lastly, the issue could be not completely covering BOTH air holes when the tank is right side up for the initial filling and during the initial threading of the top. You have to release the air holes when upside down for the final tightening! A little trick that I learned was giving it a few seconds before finishing tightening once I flip it upside down.
Good luck to those having issues. Those that have not got your yet, don't believe all the negativity without trying it for yourself first!!!
Dizzy, feel like I am vaping for the first time!
I am absolutely loving my Orchid. I have pretty much every variety of KFL, clone and original. This Orchid clone is a beast.
I have to lower my nic it hits so well!!!
I have no leaks...I am used to top filling BC I do that with all of my KFLs. Sure u loose a little capacity but I find the speed at filling without tools worth it.
For those experiencing leaking, I suspect it is due to not making sure a little wick is in each chamber and not TOO much as the opposite would occur: Choke
The other possibility is loose connections, chimney base or cross threaded tank.
Lastly, the issue could be not completely covering BOTH air holes when the tank is right side up for the initial filling and during the initial threading of the top. You have to release the air holes when upside down for the final tightening! A little trick that I learned was giving it a few seconds before finishing tightening once I flip it upside down.
Good luck to those having issues. Those that have not got your yet, don't believe all the negativity without trying it for yourself first!!!
Dizzy, feel like I am vaping for the first time!
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I just measured and I was able to get over 3.7 in there. I examined the top cap more in depth this last fill and noticed that is very shallow, unlike a kayfun top cap (original). This actually allows for just about full via top method.
I find that I get less juice into my KFLs via top method than with the Orchid. The tank being 23mm definitely helps. I really want a 23.5mm tank for this and my KFLs to be honest
no increase in length but increase in capacity!!! I am gonna completely drain the tank next fill and see what it can really hold.
My 2 Cents
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Oh brother nice tip man!! I got mine today, tobeco 19.99 from the ebay linked on that vapor joe daily deals site, aside from the neg post threading being extremely loose I'm actuallly pretty surprised with how good the quality is on mine. .6 dual center post micros hitting great although at first I wicked it like a kayfun and got a gurgle so added a tiny strip of cotton to each vertical juice groove and that was the ticket.
I looked at the Kayfun replacement topcap on Fasttech and notice it has the two holes for filling, but don't see what closes them. Are there screws, or is it valved?
I got the orchid clone today and my main problem is it leaks after filling. Once I get it vaping it no longer does. I topfill my KFL and rarely get leaking, so I know how to do it. On the orchid I put my fingers over the holes and screw the cap down, turn it upside down, then release the airholes, but it first leaks out the drip tip, then turn it right side up and it drips out the airholes enough to where I am left with less than 2ml. Perhaps I need to get more cotton in the vertical channels.
I put dual 0.9 coils on mine for a total of 0.47ohms and it is excellent. Not quite as much cloud as an RDA, but the flavor is there. I have bad luck with most tanks not being able to feed fast enough and getting burned hits, but not with this one. Hits like a tank every time.
I don;t think the build quality is good, though. Both the chimney and the top and bottom parts of the tank want to crossthread and I have to try a number of times to get them on straight. There were burrs sticking out of the post holes. The screws seem really cheap and squirrley, and are a real pain in the .... due to being hex and it appears one of the heads is almost stripped out in the two times I have screwed it in since it is slightly too large for the allen key.
And since I am left with less than 2ml in the tank, I go through the juice in about 45 minutes and have to go through the hassle of refilling. If the replacement topcap for the KF was easy to fill and I could get the full 4ml in there, and I could get phillips screws for the posts, I could live with the other problems and this would probably be my favorite atty.
I got the orchid clone today and my main problem is it leaks after filling. Once I get it vaping it no longer does. I topfill my KFL and rarely get leaking, so I know how to do it. On the orchid I put my fingers over the holes and screw the cap down, turn it upside down, then release the airholes, but it first leaks out the drip tip, then turn it right side up and it drips out the airholes enough to where I am left with less than 2ml. Perhaps I need to get more cotton in the vertical channels.
I put dual 0.9 coils on mine for a total of 0.47ohms and it is excellent. Not quite as much cloud as an RDA, but the flavor is there. I have bad luck with most tanks not being able to feed fast enough and getting burned hits, but not with this one. Hits like a tank every time.
I don;t think the build quality is good, though. Both the chimney and the top and bottom parts of the tank want to crossthread and I have to try a number of times to get them on straight. There were burrs sticking out of the post holes. The screws seem really cheap and squirrley, and are a real pain in the .... due to being hex and it appears one of the heads is almost stripped out in the two times I have screwed it in since it is slightly too large for the allen key.
And since I am left with less than 2ml in the tank, I go through the juice in about 45 minutes and have to go through the hassle of refilling. If the replacement topcap for the KF was easy to fill and I could get the full 4ml in there, and I could get phillips screws for the posts, I could live with the other problems and this would probably be my favorite atty.
I too am wondering about the top cap!! Would be a great solution for my orchid and kayfuns.
The leaking that you are getting tho sounds like the wicks need to be repositioned. Also, when u screw down the chimney...it is totally possible that they got moved. Due to there not being two pieces, it more difficult than working with kayfuns, I've noticed. Thankfully, the two times that I changed my coil... I have been good to go.
Good luck. I definitely agree that the flavor and hit is on point. Not an RDA, but damn close IMO.
Yeah the first picture is just to show what i was referring to when i mentioned that it was a close fit to the chimney at the metal rings on the nano kit,it gets wider where the glass is,but definitely cuts down on the capacity,as the top and bottom of the nano kit are both like this.As for the top kit,i'm not sure,i dont have it yet,they just came out a few days ago,so it will be a while before i have it in hand to try out.
One note i should mention for those that are not familiar with fasttech,they are in China,so it takes some time to get your order.If you use the free shipping,most people have reported up to a month in wait time,i have made 2 orders with them,and payed like $1.50 for upgraded shipping and got my stuff in a few weeks.This is something to consider,because it's not something you will get in just a few days.
I put a little more cotton in the channels and it only leaked a couple of drops when I filled. I also replaced the tank and top cap with cheap plastic nano kit ones and the threads on the cheap tank and top cap are so much better than on the orchid clone so it is less of a hassle.
I still don't understand the FT replacement cap - it it two pieces and you unscrew the top piece to aline the holes with the bottom piece to refill? Is there anywhere else you can buy this so I don't have to wait weeks to get it?
I still don't understand the FT replacement cap - it it two pieces and you unscrew the top piece to aline the holes with the bottom piece to refill? Is there anywhere else you can buy this so I don't have to wait weeks to get it?
.........All good points. I've tried all the fixes and ways that people say to stop leaking but still with no luck! I have no doubt about the actual quality of the tank, but for the life of me can't get it to stop leaking. Could someone possible provide a picture showing how this should be wicked in relation to the juice channels? I feel like that and a foolproof guide to top-filling may be the answer myself and others with leaking issues need!
The key to these not leaking is to build it just like a fogger.Thin the tails and leave a real thin tip,then tuck that tip into the channels,maybe 2-3 threads down is all you need.
Ok,as far as the full quartz kit for the kayfun,it does not fit,the chimney is not long enough to reach the top cap.A few possible solutions to this though are,1)If you know how to cut glass,you could shorten the glass enough to make it work,2)If you have a glass place near you,they may cut it to the correct size for a small fee,or 3)you could use the metal enda,and get the correct size glass from somewhere like ibtanked or somewhere similar,although i think that would be the most expensive option.I'm guessing that within a few months,i think fasttech will probably release a quartz kit for the orchid(hopefully),as i'm sure there are alot of people who would perfer glass.
Ok,as far as the full quartz kit for the kayfun,it does not fit,the chimney is not long enough to reach the top cap.A few possible solutions to this though are,1)If you know how to cut glass,you could shorten the glass enough to make it work,2)If you have a glass place near you,they may cut it to the correct size for a small fee,or 3)you could use the metal enda,and get the correct size glass from somewhere like ibtanked or somewhere similar,although i think that would be the most expensive option.I'm guessing that within a few months,i think fasttech will probably release a quartz kit for the orchid(hopefully),as i'm sure there are alot of people who would perfer glass.
hey guys, if anyone can post anymore pics of their builds or have any advice would be much appreciated.
having some wicking issues with the orchid, for one i always flood it when i fill even with some wick stuffed into the channels(i tried more in the channels but it ended up choking the wick) also i feel like its just not wicking well, after it sits for a bit i get an incredible flavorful wet hit, then it declines from there into a no flavor hit.
ive tried the kayfun thing and giving a few hard primer puffs and/or covering the airholes and taking a draw which always floods it, could it just be i need to adjust the juice control to be more open, how open can it be without flooding? using rayon wick btw
thanks in advance =D
having some wicking issues with the orchid, for one i always flood it when i fill even with some wick stuffed into the channels(i tried more in the channels but it ended up choking the wick) also i feel like its just not wicking well, after it sits for a bit i get an incredible flavorful wet hit, then it declines from there into a no flavor hit.
ive tried the kayfun thing and giving a few hard primer puffs and/or covering the airholes and taking a draw which always floods it, could it just be i need to adjust the juice control to be more open, how open can it be without flooding? using rayon wick btw
thanks in advance =D
Here's one from the Orchid thread. I have mine setup exactly like this. Vaping on it now, not down to fiddle atm
thanks for the reply, gonna try using less dense bit of wick in the channels and let it go down a bit further, always had mine just barley in the channels, prob will just take sum fiddling, will say the more i rebuild it the better performance im getting, so at least getting closer, add a fill screw and this thing would be my new favorite atty
I was getting some slightly dry hits on my initial build so I opened it up and adjusted the wicks a little bit and now I am getting leakage.
My build looks very similar to the picture above, but I tried using PnC yarn because I thought it would lay into the juice channels better. I'm getting dry hits every third hit. Going to try it again with regular cotton tonight. I'm afraid of leaking though. Sounds like it's not easy to find the balance between leaking and dry hits.
I'm also going to measure the screws with a calipers and thread gauge. I would be very surprised if they were not metric. Those little set screws are a real PITA to deal with. I like hex head screws (but while using a hex driver, not an allen wrench), but I'd prefer the larger head of a socket head cap screw as opposed to the set screws. I just don't know if there is enough room for all four screw heads. Time to do some measuring and screw chart checking.
I'm also going to measure the screws with a calipers and thread gauge. I would be very surprised if they were not metric. Those little set screws are a real PITA to deal with. I like hex head screws (but while using a hex driver, not an allen wrench), but I'd prefer the larger head of a socket head cap screw as opposed to the set screws. I just don't know if there is enough room for all four screw heads. Time to do some measuring and screw chart checking.
Please let us know if you figure out the right size. My primary complaint is the included screws. Of the four that where supposed to come with it, only three were there, the other having fallen out somewhere in the box before opening, and two more would simply slide in and out of the holes and had to be replaced with the extras in the bag.
can you link me to this drip tip? i ordered one from vapingwalrus awhile back but they don't have it anymore
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