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cindycated

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When the chimney part is not entirely screwed down to the base, doesn't that change the fluid dynamics in some way, like increasing the juice flow, so that you need to wick it differently?

Yes it does (that's how you get juice flow control on these). But you can just run a little wick (just a couple of strands) about halfway down the juice channels. Before I got my top fill cap, I set up my chimney to run right up to the top of the o-ring. Leaves less of a gap between the chimney and the base, and still leaves the chimney loose enough to easily unscrew the base without disturbing placement. I also assembled from the top down, instead of the normal bottom to top.
 
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If you make your wicks too bulky,they will get too saturated and start dumping it down into the air holes.The best way i found to fill the orchid is a bottom fill,obviously this is very easy with the v2's and up,but even on my v1's i bottom fill them,and i never get any leakage at all.If your using a v1,turn it upside down and unscrew the base from the tank,then pull it apart just a very little bit,make sure the tip of the chimney does not come out of the top cap,then use a needle tip bottle or syringe with blunt tip needle,fill it 2/3 of the way,screw it back together and your good.As for the wicks,definitely run a tail into each channel,about half way down,and keep them a bit thin,if they are too thick they will block the juice.I use rayon,so if your using cotton,it may be a bit different,but shouldn't be by much.Being you are getting the bubbles,i would say your tails need to be just a bit thicker in the channels though.

Got it sorted, of all things the center pin was loose on one, tightened that up (after a rebuild and a rewick which probably wasn't necessary), and voila, all good and behaving like a 5 year on Christmas Eve. The cause of the other flooder was a new wick setup I tried where I was tucking part of the wick under the coil. Back to basics with very short wicks just touch the top of the juice wells and maybe a tiny tiny bit barely poking down into the channels to block the flooding, vaping like a champ. Learned some good lessons about the Orchid tonight though, happy again.

Amazing how stressful a flooding atty is though, I think I just had my first nicotene fit since I quit smoking!
 

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Yes it does (that's how you get juice flow control on these). But you can just run a little wick (just a couple of strands) about halfway down the juice channels. Before I got my top fill cap, I set up my chimney to run right up to the top of the o-ring. Leaves less of a gap between the chimney and the base, and still leaves the chimney loose enough to easily unscrew the base without disturbing placement. I also assembled from the top down, instead of the normal bottom to top.

I tried the top fill cap, same one you got from fasttech with the v4 chimney, flooded like crazy even after I fixed my wicking issues. The top of the chimney didn't seat into the top cap, probably a mm or 2 short. What's the fix for this? I'd love to use my brass KF quartz kits and brass top fill cap on my orchid, would match the brass SMPL beautifully not to mention huge ease of use, but I'm coming up short, literally :)
 

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I extended my V1 chimney with silicone tubing. Top filling these things is a little fiddly, even with the two holes. I haven't tried just straight filling - I've always done the cover airholes-fill-flip upside-down-release fingers from airholes thing. I always assemble backwards: secure the top of the chimney first, then screw the tank to the top cap, then screw that whole assembly to the base. I don't think my chimney is EVER tight to the base. Which is OK with me - I just compensate with a little extra wick down the channels.

When I cover air holes: thumb and middle finger on the holes, index finger over the drip tip. And make sure the two tiny o-rings inside the top fill cap are where they need to be (just remove the top part to look).
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 0mg Meniere
When the chimney part is not entirely screwed down to the base, doesn't that change the fluid dynamics in some way, like increasing the juice flow, so that you need to wick it differently?

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Yes it does (that's how you get juice flow control on these).

OK. Done. Hopefully I will have no more problem with burned wicks.
 

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Yeah,i got my v1 very shortly after they came out,and i almost quit using it because they have minimal capacity to start with,then all the juice i was losing after top filling made it to where i would constantly have to refill.I seen a post where someone mentioned filling that way,and it made a huge difference,so that is how i filled them up until i just recently got the v4,now my v1's are just sitting,but i think i am going to follow Cindy's solution to get the added capacity with them,that way i can run both of them along side the v4.

That's actually a pretty good idea,i've been filling it through the fill hole without any issues,but i do like the idea of being able to get to the coils without having to empty the tank first.

Another advantage of locking the chimney with the drip tip like I mentioned in the previous post is that by unscrewing the top cap a little you basically have liquid flow adjustment.
 

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Is there a thinner sleeve for this tank? I got mine and my high vg juices are barely making it down past the chimney when doing a top fill. Would really like a sleeve that isn't so thick.
Then do a bottom-fill. Maybe you could put more PG or water in it.

I just realized that when running it as single-coil that I have four channels feeding one coil, which is plenty. I wick the coil, then take another wick, loop the middle of it over the top of the coil, and lay the ends in the channels on the other side. I have to screw the chimney all the way down, otherwise-- contrary to reason, I don't get enough juice. I get great clouds this way.

I also finally succeeded in getting the cotton dislodged from the other airhole. All you need is the flavorwick. Plugging the other airhole is NOT recommended.
 
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Then do a bottom-fill. Maybe you could put more PG or water in it.

I just realized that when running it as single-coil that I have four channels feeding one coil, which is plenty. I wick the coil, then take another wick, loop the middle of it over the top of the coil, and lay the ends in the channels on the other side. I have to screw the chimney all the way down, otherwise-- contrary to reason, I don't get enough juice. I get great clouds this way.

Temporary solution, yes. Would still like to have a thinner sleeve if one exists. As long as it's not as hideous as the v1 design. And just to add, just as what happened with my fogger v4 when I got it, my wife has "claimed" this as her own. Whatever keeps her happy! Lol
 

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You could try KF plastic m-tanks (what I'm using now). A little roomier, because you don't have all those threads in the middle. Somebody mentioned though that the V4 chimney might still be 1-2mm short for those? Dunno. I extended my V1 chimney with silicone tubing to make it work. Dang they were supposed to make those tall enough to work with the KF full size tanks.

I hear the Taifun plastic nano tanks fit too, if you're OK with 23mm, which is what the chimneys were designed for (that's why it's so tight), but I haven't actually tried one of those, so dunno how you would fit all that together. Plus, I think it would be more the same height as the V1-V2, not the V4. Sorry. There might be something on that in the FT forum though.
 
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You could try KF plastic m-tanks (what I'm using now). A little roomier, because you don't have all those threads in the middle. Somebody mentioned though that the V4 chimney might still be 1-2mm short for those? Dunno. I extended my V1 chimney with silicone tubing to make it work. Dang they were supposed to make those tall enough to work with the KF full size tanks.

I hear the Taifun plastic nano tanks fit too, if you're OK with 23mm, which is what the chimneys were designed for (that's why it's so tight), but I haven't actually tried one of those, so dunno how you would fit all that together. Plus, I think it would be more the same height as the V1-V2, not the V4. Sorry. There might be something on that in the FT forum though.

Thanks. I'm going to do some more digging into it, maybe i can find something that might work. I wouldnt mind the 23mm look if I were running one on my CHDNA30, but it looks silly to me on my wife's Pegasus. I'm thinking of just picking up the v3 from FT for my DNA and letting her keep the v4.
 

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I order this 30mm tank from Fasttech:

$9.95 Full Replacement Tank for 30mm Kayfun Lite / Kayfun v3.1 ES - stainless steel + PMMA at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

It is meant to be used with a kayfun but if you drill out the holes to 2mm it works perfectly with Orchid V4 base and chimney. It took me about 5 minutes to dill it out and I did it free hand. I first used a 1/16 and then a 5/16 drill bit. It gives you a full 10ml juice capacity and filling it is actually easier and much much faster than the regular tank. You can squeeze 10 ml of juice into in a couple of seconds. It looks great and is actually very well made....If you have any 26650 mods this is a must have.

Edit: I meant 5/64 drill bit not 5/16.
 
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I order this 30mm tank from Fasttech:

$9.95 Full Replacement Tank for 30mm Kayfun Lite / Kayfun v3.1 ES - stainless steel + PMMA at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

It is meant to be used with a kayfun but if you drill out the holes to 2mm it works perfectly with Orchid V4 base and chimney. It took me about 5 minutes to dill it out and I did it free hand. I first used a 1/16 and then a 5/16 drill bit. It gives you a full 10ml juice capacity and filling it is actually easier and much much faster than the regular tank. You can squeeze 10 ml of juice into in a couple of seconds. It looks great and is actually very well made....If you have any 26650 mods this is a must have.

Makes me want to get one because i run my orchid on an OKR box, but to hell with the snail mail shipping speed. Know of any stateside?
 
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