The protank, Evod, T3, gurgling and flooding solution idea thread.

[Butters78]

Let me state this first. I do love the protank and evods so far. Don't get me wrong, they are great. I was a vivi nova guy for a while but the constant dipping and twirling started to drive me nuts. So the Kanger bottom coil products have been great except for one thing, gurgling. Today I went from a warm environment, to a cold environment back to warm, and for the evod it was gurgle city. At the resteraunt I had to go to the bathroom to blow the excess juice out. I felt like a fool.

Now at home my protank of unflavored got low, a quarter of the juice was visible in the glass. It kept gurgling, even after I blown it out. I think the lack of pressure, like in a full tank, creates the flood. So I cut a piece of 1mm silica, added it to the top of the coil and it seems to have fixed it. It's still wicking well. This is a stock head.

I can get the whole tank pressure thing with having a full tank but I don't get why temperature change would cause it.

So my idea is adding more flavor wicks when there is excessive gurgling.

Have any of you guys tried anything else that may help?

 

[chellemmm]

Hi EricHill! I live in Florida, so do you think I would have a problem with the heat in an EVOD?

 

[Butters78]

Hi EricHill! I live in Florida, so do you think I would have a problem with the heat in an EVOD?

I'm originally from Hollywood, Broward County

You may, it seems everyone's experiences are different. The evods are cheap and are worth a try. It may work perfect for you.

 

[The Ocelot]

I haven't had a gurgling problem with the 2nd tank I got, and the first tank hasn't been bad (except for the airy draw and muted taste) since I put a new head on it. I don't know why that made a difference, both heads were new - perhaps it was starting to write a classified ad that got its attention. I still prefer my carto tanks, but I'm vaping a Protank right now for variety.

Tip: These work quite well to slightly restrict the airflow:

ETA: It might still have to do with temperature. I was having the worst problems with mine in the mornings when it was cold, but the weather has gotten warmer.

 

[zyglrox]

It seems like once these bottom coils start gurgling, it creates some sort of pressure differential which leads to continual flooding. I have no idea why this happens, but temperature changes do seem to contribute to it somehow. I'm thinking it has something to do with condensation of the juice. I think it's when the juice condenses inside the tubing that the "gurgle differential" is created.

I usually just up the voltage a tad to vape the excess out. It seems like every time I try to flick it or blow it out, more gets pulled in. Adding more flavor wicks would probably work too, but I don't like having to adjust them constantly. It's messy and inconvenient. I also wonder if adding too many flavor wicks might either cause wicking problems or ultimately contribute to more gurgling once they are fully saturated. But hey, if you can add them just once and be done with it, then more power to you!

 

[crxess]

I can get the whole tank pressure thing with having a full tank but I don't get why temperature change would cause it.

Warm - Thin
Cool - Thick
Air expands/contracts faster than liquid - Pilots have to learn this to avoid mountains flying IFR.

If your tank is low and cool for a while, then warms up air expansion starts pushing liquid out.
Flip/loosen bottom/Tighten back up and test. or top off

 

[Butters78]

Warm - Thin
Cool - Thick
Air expands/contracts faster than liquid - Pilots have to learn this to avoid mountains flying IFR.

If your tank is low and cool for a while, then warms up air expansion starts pushing liquid out.
Flip/loosen bottom/Tighten back up and test. or top off

That definitely makes sense. The main thing I want to avoid is having to top it off. The whole idea behind having a large tank is not having to refill often.

 

[Butters78]

We have to remember quality control in China isn't the greatest. Every head I'm sure isn't equal. One head may have an extra flavor wick by mistake or may be missing one. I don't know if the heads are made by machine or by hand but I'm sure they do vary.

 

[M_DuBb716]

Glad you made a thread on this Eric..
I finally just now gave up and took the EVOD-coil off of my ProTank because the leaking was driving me nuts, and screwed back on my 2nd stock ProTank head and it's priming right now..

Let me know how the extra wick goes Eric, I just remembered I do have about an inch (lol) of extra silica wick laying around somewhere that I snipped from my T2 long-wicks, might have to try that myself.
... But how do you get to the wicks, to add another? Can't seem to get that little post above the wicks to come off

 

[Butters78]

Glad you made a thread on this Eric..
I finally just now gave up and took the EVOD-coil off of my ProTank because the leaking was driving me nuts, and screwed back on my 2nd stock ProTank head and it's priming right now..

Let me know how this xtra wick goes Eric, I just remembered I do have about an inch (lol) of extra silica wick laying around somewhere that I snipped from my T2 long-wicks, might have to try that myself.
... But how do you get to the wicks, to add another? Can't seem to get that little post above the wicks to come off

It's working great so far. I filled the tank full after I finished it and no problems. You have to tinker sometimes to get things working the way you like. Just part of our hobby.

 

[Big Screen D]

Copy/Paste:

"About that gurgle thing.

Assuming the head is screwed in tight, and the unit is does not have an air leak at the top of the tank, here are two ways to correct it.

For the occasional "gurgle", that is more apt to occur as the tank nears empty, take it off the mod and give it the ole thermometer shake to remove excess juice/condensation from the atty and or airway and out though the mouthpiece. A Q-Tip can also be pushed up the air way from the drip tip side if one is so inclined, but shake it out first.

If it is happening frequently, other than changing the head, just add some additional top wick. Doesn't have to be silica. Little bit of cotton on top of the stock wick will do."

Do not try to "blow out" a gurgle. Will just make it worse. Don't try to vape though a flooded atty, it usually will only get worse because the airflow is restricted, and will only serve to pull more juice into the atty. Same thing goes when modding them to make the draw tighter. Change the vacuum, and you will probably need to restrict the wick to match the change in vacuum this creates.

 

[Butters78]

M dubb this video may help you get to the wicks.

 

[The Ocelot]

One great thing about the Protank design is that the mouth piece/center tube is the perfect size to fit a q-tip.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

A member her named Vaptor recommend that you turn the cup seal over to prevent dry hits. Now my EVOD's were suffering from gurgling after I'd get to about the halfway mark. Maybe before then also. So I decided to try Vapotors recommendation just to see if it would fix the gurgling. Guess what? It works. I have since flipped all of my cup seals over and I haven't had a problem yet. Well I did have one head that would leak no matter what I did, so that doesn't count. But Ive had no gurgling problems with any of my other 5 heads. Try it, it may work for your EVOD and your KPT. Hope this helps someone, although I can't take credit for the idea.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

One great thing about the Protank design is that the mouth piece/center tube is the perfect size to fit a q-tip.

The same goes for the EVOD. I'd use q-tips whenever my EVOD got flooded. I complety agree.

 

[The Ocelot]

The same goes for the EVOD. I'd use q-tips whenever my EVOD got flooded. I complety agree.

It's good for filling too. I put a q-tip up the center to block it when putting in liquid.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

It's good for filling too. I put a q-tip up the center to block it when putting in liquid.

Ocelot I never thought of that! Thanks for the idea.

 

[lilmrsyeti]

A member her named Vaptor recommend that you turn the cup seal over to prevent dry hits. Now my EVOD's were suffering from gurgling after I'd get to about the halfway mark. Maybe before then also. So I decided to try Vapotors recommendation just to see if it would fix the gurgling. Guess what? It works. I have since flipped all of my cup seals over and I haven't had a problem yet. Well I did have one head that would leak no matter what I did, so that doesn't count. But Ive had no gurgling problems with any of my other 5 heads. Try it, it may work for your EVOD and your KPT. Hope this helps someone, although I can't take credit for the idea.

I hate to sound like such a Noob...but what is the cup seal? Will this work with the MT3s? I have a t3 that has yet to leak or gurgle...but my MT3 does every time...even with different heads. So, I broke down all of my Kanger heads and pulled out the flavor wicks..each head had only been used about 3 times..added a couple strands of cotton wick to them..2 of the heads, their wicks was shredded and into tiny pieces.

 

[Ken_A]

The cup seal is that little silicone ring shaped like a cup with a hole in the middle of it. It fits over the middle post and restricts the flow of the liquid to the wick it sits against.

 

[MattF]

I found all my T3s will start to gurgle when it gets below about a third full. Solution-I just refill them before it gets there. Never had gurgling or flooding unless I let it get too low.