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PLANofMAN

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For those that use the kayfun.... Are you lowering your nic levels for it... Like how you have to do with rda's?
I didn't have to. It gives me about the same vapor as a ProTank. The flavor is just much better. I did find that I prefer to wrap my coil about a half ohm higher on the kayfun than I do on the ProTanks, so the heat up time/time holding the button is a bit longer. I think that gives me a little more control over my vape as well.

Edit: 1.5-1.8 ohms on the ProTank, 2.0-2.2 on the Kayfun.
 

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He was discovered at the age of 15 or 16 singing Bohemian Rhapsody at a talent contest in the Philippines. Got it set up on YouTube to watch after this is over. They're singing Faithfully as I write this. Awesome!!

ADD: Now "Don't Stop Believing". Every time he opens his mouth and starts singing the goose bumps come back! Great show!!

Have you watched the documentary? I think it was called, Don't Stop Believing, Everyman's Journey" or something like that. It was on Netflix for awhile, just an incredible story!!! I do believe I got something in my eyes at the end, they got pretty watery!
 

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I would have to agree with POM, I didn't notice any need to lower again. I do love the increase in flavor from the Kayfun types.

My big drop was when I went from clearos/carto tanks to Genesis style (AGA-T2, AGI, ZAP) I was vaping 12mg at that time and lowered immediately to 6mg, it was just too much for me.

Now I am still with 6mg, on all devices but still notice the genesis type are still a little strong for me...but then I don't use them much anymore.
 

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I would have to agree with POM, I didn't notice any need to lower again. I do love the increase in flavor from the Kayfun types.

My big drop was when I went from clearos/carto tanks to Genesis style (AGA-T2, AGI, ZAP) I was vaping 12mg at that time and lowered immediately to 6mg, it was just too much for me.

Now I am still with 6mg, on all devices but still notice the genesis type are still a little strong for me...but then I don't use them much anymore.

I so don't have/never tried any type of genesis! I HAVE to try one :)
 

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I so don't have/never tried any type of genesis! I HAVE to try one :)

I dunno dedi. A genny was a good thing in its day, but that day passed about 6 months ago. Wayyy too prone to leaking and finicky to use. KFL/R91 type of rebuildable simply displaced them as a superior performing device.
 

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I so don't have/never tried any type of genesis! I HAVE to try one :)

I dunno dedi. A genny was a good thing in its day, but that day passed about 6 months ago. Wayyy too prone to leaking and finicky to use. KFL/R91 type of rebuildable simply displaced them as a superior performing device.

The few Gennies I still use are strickly "stay at home" toppers - not very mobile friendly as KY_Rob stated.

And for me at least, the learning curve was a rough patch. I finally started using ekowool wrapped ss mesh with mini coils and have had good luck with those. One that I still used everyday is an UD AGT titanium, it is strictly a ss mesh wick 30ga kanthal measuring in at 1.7Ω and I use it specifically on the MVP2.

I received a ZAP with my Black ProVari (classy purchase) and sold the ZAP a few days after receipt.
 

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None of the clerks had a clue of what a small butane torch was. It was sad. It got so bad that in the Sporting goods department and automotive and gun departments I started approaching the male shoppers and asking them if they could tell me where I might find a butane torch. The whole scenario was becoming quite bizarre, hence the headache and the 2 Bic lighters. I had to rescue myself before I went quite mad. At one point I was afraid they were going to call in the white coats. I was talking of making Crème Brulee (blank stares), annealing kanthal wire (more blank stares, but I knew that reference was a mistake), soldering, lighting campfires and grills in the wind. All returned with blank stares and being directed to Glade candle lighter long barreled lighters, which I know are worthless. Several other employees were called in for consultation. No clue by probably the whole evening shift staff.

I had to save myself and leave.

I know how you feel, I went to a popular store that sells tools and the three men there were trying to tell me that I need an allen wrench because there was no such thing as a torx screw driver...wth.
 

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I am just about to go out the door to the vape meet. I do believe it is the V2, Shek says it is, and there is no channel on end to use a regular screw driver to twist pin. It looks like the end that the V2s have. I am sure.

I will gladly accept the walk through help tonight when I get back from the meet. I am hoping that I may have a workaround that the guys there will show me that I can share with you all.

Thanks Train. We will talk later.

ShariR,
Are you sure you HAVE a V2?

The trouble with the V2 pin isn't the looseness and moving block - that's a V1 problem and easy to fix.
The trouble with the V2 pin is that when they made it "floating" (spring-loaded so you don't have to adjust it for different mods or rings) something went wrong, and people are getting innacurate, changing atomizer resistance readings - it's not making a solid connection.

If you have the older V1 style pin and your block moves (this is true with MOST of them when new - from what I've heard - and it happened to me), we can talk you through that!

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19 is what you see poking out the bottom, screws into 18, screws into 16 that's at the top holding your block in place.
UNSCREW 19 all the way, while kind of holding the block so it doesn't fall off.
Reach into the hole with a tiny screwdriver, and TIGHTEN 18 - again while holding the block - this time holding it tight so it won't rotate from you turning that screw.
Now put 19 back in.

That's it. You fixed the loose block, and now you can adjust the pin - turn #18 - to get your Russian to make a connection without a gap, or make a connection with a ProRing on, etc. I don't have a pix of what the new V2 pin looks like, but it involves a spring...
 

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I am just about to go out the door to the vape meet. I do believe it is the V2, Shek says it is, and there is no channel on end to use a regular screw driver to twist pin. It looks like the end that the V2s have. I am sure.

I will gladly accept the walk through help tonight when I get back from the meet. I am hoping that I may have a workaround that the guys there will show me that I can share with you all.

Thanks Train. We will talk later.

Good Luck @ the vape meet Shari!!! Hopefully all will go well with your R91.

I'm jealous - living out in the middle of nowhere - vape meets just don't happen.

Although I recently learned from my daughter that a Vape Shop has appeared in our little town - maybe there is hope yet!
 

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Your Highness,

May I humbly suggest you purchase a genuine for your first KFL. It is not like you can't afford it, and I believe the genuine devices give you the greatest chance of a positive experience. If you like it, then get you some clones.



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I blame PBusardo. He reviewed an authentic Kayfun side-by-side with a Russian 91% (not identified as a V1, since a V2 didn't exist) and gave them both good reviews. The Russian actually got extra points for having better airflow control.

I keep watching the thread about the V2 pin issue in the Rebuildables sub-forum. Not everyone has had a problem, but they are far outweighed by the ones who have. Slightly over an hour after I placed my order, I learned of the problem. I sent the vendor a copy of what Kebotech posted on their fb page and a link to the thread about it on the forum. They replied quickly saying they would email Kebo and check into it. I responded that I wasn't in a hurry and would wait until they got the issue sorted out. This was all on Friday night, but they shipped it Saturday morning. They have a DOA only return policy with a 24 hour window to report an issue, but this situation is outside of that.

I am going to start emailing them tomorrow. Repeatedly. They shipped me a product with a known defect; a defect the manufacturer posted a notice about. It will not be here tomorrow, so I am going to call the post office to find out if I should write return to sender on the box or mail it back (I'll eat the postage as punishment for being impulsive). I don't want a new product I will have to fix to safely use - safely, think about that Mr. Vendor. Refund, store credit or credit card dispute? What shall we do? I have documentation and BofA likes me. We have a relationship. I'm sure they will be quite concerned, especially since they know zip about the product except that it's electronic, you knew it was defective and I might possibly be injured. A Chinese clone of something involving Russia could sound very serious if worded the right way.

I want a new toy. Would you like to be my toy Mr. Vendor?

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Hope some vape-met friends help!
Cuz, to clarify - I ONLY know the V1 issue...and it does sound like you got urself a V2...



I am just about to go out the door to the vape meet. I do believe it is the V2, Shek says it is, and there is no channel on end to use a regular screw driver to twist pin. It looks like the end that the V2s have. I am sure.

I will gladly accept the walk through help tonight when I get back from the meet. I am hoping that I may have a workaround that the guys there will show me that I can share with you all.

Thanks Train. We will talk later.
 

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Yikes, that's pricey for something that looks like the inside of a pen.
But I saw a center pin somewhere else, and it was $16 there, too.
The other issue is "how do you replace it?".
Maybe Ocelot's done the research - but I haven't read all the threads to know how much of a process switching from a V2 to a V1 pin is...

Well I found this earlier today and I thought I would share, but I think there has to be a better price than this.

The Russian 91% Replacement Parts - EVcigarettes.com

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"Please note that each part ranges in price and part number 17 is NOT currently offered for sale by the manufacturer."

Isn't part #17 rather important?

ETA: I meant in general, not to solve the current problem.

The most important parts to solve the current problem would be 18 & 19 - I believe #17 on the V2 is fine, but that is odd...they offer every single part but that one :blink:
 
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