The Rose v2 Rebuildable Atomizer

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Steam, like you can read in this thread, the Rose wicks outstandingly well. It`s very , very easy to wick with cotton. Have you ever made duals on a KF? I know it`s possible, I`ve done it but it didn`t make it much better and more is not possible. Check Youtube someone is building six coils on the Rose. And most of all, I tried pushing my KF over 20 Watts. Max three drags and you get dry hits. If I want I could chainvape my Rose at 30 Watts and these are early days!!! I know people like their KF`s, I have 3, but this one outshines them all
 

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Just got my Rose today and finished my first build. Single coil with the wire and silica that it came with. All I can say is this is the perfect vape! Can't wait to try a microcoil/cotton build on it as soon as I finish this tank. No leaks, dry hits, gurgling or any problems at all. I'm a happy camper tonight!!

 
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Just received my rose today. What a thing of beauty. The total package makes it exceptionally great. Love the stand and tool to unscrew the base. Fraking outstanding.

Was in a hurry to get it built before going to work, so no pics yet. Used some twisted tiger wire I had on hand, wrapped dual horizontals, came out to .45 ohms. Wicked with hemp fiber. JC is very sensitive, much like the Aqua's jc. But once dialed in, very juicy vape. Going to add an additional hemp wick through each juice channel in hopes of getting better control on the jc. Thinking of wrapping the strands around the coils. Am so glad I was able to get the Rose 2. Rose is a keeper, think I need two. lmao.
 
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So whats the advantage here? It cost twice as much as a KF it has way too many parts and only thing I can see is juice control that the KF don't have It looks like it would be real hard to wick it with cotton I'm just not feeling this RBA :( Do you think it's worth the money?

Was the Kayfun worth the price paid? Heck you could of bought 5 PT's for the price of the K.lite. Was the Futura worth the price, how about a stingray or a supermax?

Seriously? From a person who only collects vape gear that will enhance or improve their vape's perspective, the Rose V2 is MUST HAVE rba. Don't get me wrong, I own and vape the Russian. Was my first rba. Well worth half the price of the rose. But I only own one. The quality, build, features of this system is so totally impressive, it just totally blows me away. An eye for detail, form and function, is so incredible, the spare parts bottles, stand and tools are worth the extra bill even if the rose wasn't better, have more potential, and be a superior quality rba than the kayfun. But it is. Rose Two, is just drop down Gorgeous. Rose is a builders rba. Granted, I am smitten. lmao.
 
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Was the Kayfun worth the price paid? Heck you could of bought 5 PT's for the price of the K.lite. Was the Futura worth the price, how about a stingray or a supermax?

Seriously? From a person who only collects vape gear that will enhance or improve their vape's perspective, the Rose V2 is MUST HAVE rba. Don't get me wrong, I own and vape the Russian. Was my first rba. Well worth half the price of the rose. But I only own one. The quality, build, features of this system is so totally impressive, it just totally blows me away. An eye for detail, form and function, is so incredible, the spare parts bottles, stand and tools are worth the extra bill even if the rose wasn't better, have more potential, and be a superior quality rba than the kayfun. But it is. Rose Two, is just drop down Gorgeous. Rose is a builders rba. Granted, I am smitten. lmao.

Aesthetically I feel like the kayfuns look better since they are compact and have a lot of options with aesthetics, but the Rose v2 hands down gives a far smoother and tastier vape than a kayfun.
 

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As promised Pics:

Rose and Stingray bc:


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Pic of first build, dual Twisted Tiger wire, hemp fiber, 0.45 ohms:


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pic of added crossing flavor wicks with hopes of getting better calibration of juice control


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And no build layout would be complete without Spontaneity getting into it, High end vape Security.lol


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And a group portrait of some of my mods and rba's


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So far, it's kicking some serious vape. A happy Vaper am I. Was going to put it on the futura, but alas, my build was to lohm'd so slapped it on the Stingray.
 
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Now that I've nearly finished my first tankful and have gotten over my initial exuberance, some negatives: the air adjustment ring is much too tight. I lubricated the o-ring but that didn't help, even tried to remove the o-ring but didn't want to damage it in case it turned out it was needed. I unscrewed the base and set the air about midway and just left it there. The threads on the chimney are very rough and scratchy. After filling the tank, I found it hard to screw on the chimney straight and had to be careful not to cross thread it. I think there's too much play in threading the chimney. A silicone o-ring at the top would make it turn smoother. That's about the only criticism I have. I still love my Rose but see room for improvement.
 

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As promised Pics:

Rose and Stingray bc:


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Pic of first build, dual Twisted Tiger wire, hemp fiber, 0.45 ohms:


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pic of added crossing flavor wicks with hopes of getting better calibration of juice control


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And no build layout would be complete without Spontaneity getting into it, High end vape Security.lol


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And a group portrait of some of my mods and rba's


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So far, it's kicking some serious vape. A happy Vaper am I. Was going to put it on the futura, but alas, my build was to lohm'd so slapped it on the Stingray.

what size diameter are your micro coils?

are you getting more or less vapor from the rose vs the aqua?
 
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Now that I've nearly finished my first tankful and have gotten over my initial exuberance, some negatives: the air adjustment ring is much too tight. I lubricated the o-ring but that didn't help, even tried to remove the o-ring but didn't want to damage it in case it turned out it was needed. I unscrewed the base and set the air about midway and just left it there. The threads on the chimney are very rough and scratchy. After filling the tank, I found it hard to screw on the chimney straight and had to be careful not to cross thread it. I think there's too much play in threading the chimney. A silicone o-ring at the top would make it turn smoother. That's about the only criticism I have. I still love my Rose but see room for improvement.

My air adjustment control moves easily of course I had trouble getting off the base unit and it kept turning a lot so it probably got broken into.. and I haven't had trouble with the chimney threading at least with my unit.
 

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As promised Pics:

Rose and Stingray bc:

Pic of first build, dual Twisted Tiger wire, hemp fiber, 0.45 ohms:
Pic of added crossing flavor wicks with hopes of getting better calibration of juice control
And no build layout would be complete without Spontaneity getting into it, High end vape Security.lol
And a group portrait of some of my mods and rba's
So far, it's kicking some serious vape. A happy Vaper am I. Was going to put it on the futura, but alas, my build was to lohm'd so slapped it on the Stingray.

DIce, I know you're a vertical fan, and that's the only coil style I use with Hemp fiber, how does this fare with vertical(s)
 

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what size diameter are your micro coils?

are you getting more or less vapor from the rose vs the aqua?

I am using a mandrel from the Artesian Wire Coiler, and it's about 16 mm. Then use some blunt tip syringe needles to position the coils while twisting the leads together. Rose vs Aqua, well Rose is at 0.45 ohms and Aqua is at 0.3 ohms, so vape quantity on the Aqua, is a bit more. Vape flavor goes to the Rose. Keep in mind, this is my first build, which I slapped together while rushed. The Aqua is on it's 3rd build, and is now just right for me. Once I get Rose optimized, will be able to give more accurate info.

DIce, I know you're a vertical fan, and that's the only coil style I use with Hemp fiber, how does this fare with vertical(s)

I went horizontal with the Rose, mainly to get a base line reading before experimenting with a vertical build or something else. So far am very pleased with the results, but next build will go vertical, using the inverted V-Twin series coil design that I have on the Russian. That's the build I had in mind when first seeing Rose, but it's a bit of a meticulous build, and wanted to have time to get it right. Not that doing dual horizontals for Rose is a cake walk, lol. I am using hemp fiber on all my style builds, and find it quite excellent.

The chimney threads I found to be quite fine, and if you aren't careful, it is easy to get them cross threaded, but once engaged properly, seem to be quite smooth. Air control ring was fairly tight when first received Rose, but after disassembly, cleaning, and put back together, seems to be fine, and requires just the right amount of pressure to move. The only complaint I have is the small tank capacity, but it's something I can accept and still be happy that Rose is in my Vape collection.
 

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Roughly the same findings. I suppose the AC/ring will loosen. Mine did and now it is (like mentioned) just fine. I find the JC the easiest to operate of all my gear that has juice control KF+,KF mini,Ithaka,Odysseus, penelope and the Estia is harder too. The kayfuns lack the JC and the golden greek gear is way harder to set up right and the vape just isn"t as tastefull. Of course if your going for huge clouds the Estia is better but that device is made for three coils. I just know this one is a winner and keeper.
 

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Finally managed to free up the AC ring. It was the o-ring that was binding it up. Once I changed the o-ring for a silicone ring from a tank, it turned smooth as silk. Still not happy with the Juice Control chimney threads, but hopefully they will loosen with use. Whenever I take the Rose apart, I don't see a bit of moisture on the 510 screw. It doesn't leak a bit, it can't due to the design of the collector base.
 

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Got my Rose V2 today. Washed and dried it. Put in a dual 12 wrap 28ga with cotton with some Mother's Milk and yes just like everyone else I couldn't be happier. The clouds, the flavor are the best if had yet from an RBA. I am going to have fun with this gem. Worth every penny!

And props to Big Buddha Vapors. I had no issues buying on their site. Whatever was wrong is now fixed. The item was shipped quick and they also threw in several sample bottles of E-juice and 2 were 15ml. Nice surprise! I love surprises that don't explode!
 

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Have 2 incredible builds now for Rose, that are simply expanding my Vape Conscience. They are that good. Both are using dual stands of twisted wire, both using Rami Fiber for wicks..

The first "Excellent Build" was a vertically mounted dual series coil with external rami wick. Used ribbon & round twisted together, Tiger Wire. Came out to 1.4 ohms. Used ~16 gauge mandrel with the coil winder, making a single micro coil. Looks to be about 10 wraps, then bend it in two, creating a V. /\ , pinched and torch to set.




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Don't have photos of my wicking process, was getting late/early and wanted to complete build. Working with ramie fiber is a joy, it's one of the most purrfect wick fibers I've encountered. Each angel hair fiber is continuous throughout its length. It's like what nano fiber optics cable would look like.

I place a pre-juiced strand between the coils. I just drip enough juice on the fibers to get them compressed, straight and flat. Once positioned and between the coils, I fold tails straight up and mount coil. Once securely mounted, flatten and straighten out the ramie fibers and wrap them around the outside of the coils and out the ending juice port. You now have a completely wrapped inverted V-Twin coil, but with 2 empty juice ports.

I then straighten out the exiting tails nice and split it in two and fold it back through the cup and out the apposing empty juice port, and repeat on the other side. Now there is a tail in every port. hmm, yeah, sticking with that, I now have a tail in every port. With rami, find it's beneficial, read that as "Very Important" to keep the fibers as straight and parallel as possible. Working a few drops of juice into it really helps taming loose ends and keeping everything tidy and optimal. So when wrapping, threading and tucking, I'll always untwist, straighten and flatten my fibers before proceeding.

On the wick legs that were folded back to fill the last 2 ports, I'll also tuck them down touching the bottom of the ceramic cup. My objective for doing this is two fold. One, I want a way to soak up and use any juice that gets over wicked, preventing flooding, and two, want to block the air from going around the out side of the wicks, and forcing it up the V-Twin coils.


My Second Excellent build is a horizontally mounted coil, using Savannah Wire, twisted ribbon, twisted around 28 awg Kanthal. Weighs in at 0.65 ohms, also wicked with Rami Fiber. Used a mandrel about 1/8" diameter, from the Artesian wire coiler.


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After saturating wick, threading through coil, mounting coil, straightening and separating my wick I have something like this:



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In this build I opted not to use the ceramic cup, wanted more room for my wick, and this allowed me to run the extra wick tails you see, to be tucked into the juice deck for retrieving excess juice and reducing flooding. Also feel be doing so, the ramie lying in the juice deck preforms similar function as the ceramic, and gives me a juice well so can really open up the throttle and run her wide open, Maximum Watts with less risks of flooding. So far tis working wonderfully for me.

Here is how Rose looks before her final trim, with all the tails tucked in nice and neat. Notice how straight, flat and uniform, all the fibers are.



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I then secure and tighten the chimney in preparation for the final trim, ensuring nothing gets snagged in the threads.


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All trimmed and awaiting assembly and fill up:



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Vaping and looking Quite Excellent straddling the futura 30.



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Ahh, Futura meets Rose, love at first Vape. Fortunately the twin girls play well together and like all my mods. Both these builds taste and vape fantastically. Both preform and easily wick at 30 watts. Things do heat up a bit with extended vaping, while providing a very orgasmic vaping experience. Can only take so much before am over nic'd and vape overload sets in, but DAMN is it good. Dial Rose back to a mild 23 watts, and one receives a stellar smooth, satisfying, flavorful vape. Warm, but not overly. Everything staying stable and cool with no overwarming tendency. Jc, cracked open 1/4-1/2 turn, will open up to a full turn when at 30 watts. Once the Ramie gets fully saturated, should be less sensitive.
 

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The Woolery was one of places I found it. Stumbled across this in the Just Hemp thread. It's also called "China Grass".

I've had for a few weeks and have been trying to like it, but couldn't get it's properties down. When I started my second build on Rose, all the pieces clicked into place, and got it to work properly.

Now I think of ramie like a bunch of nano garden hoses, and trying to deliver juice to a fire, if I twist and bind the hoses, it chokes off the supply and ruins the fluid dynamics. But if kept neat and orderly, allows for excellent plumbing and quenching the flame. Opening the jc with ramie inside, is like turning on the faucet full blast from a slow trickle.

This fiber comes to you so clean and white, and the way it comes as one long looped strand of hair, first thing that came to mind is Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your Platinum Hair. lol

I tried some ramie on my other rba's with out a great deal of success, switched back to Hemp. So I ended up cutting of a foot or so and boiled it for 1/2 hour in a water/VG solution. Did that help? Don't know, didn't seem to when I retried it, but used it in the Rose with great success. Am curious to see if keeping the fibers nice and straight, will allow me to use it successfully on the Russian.

Wow dice, you inspire me! What is that rami fiber and where do you get it? Is it the same as hemp fiber?

Ramie is very similar to hemp and wicks as well, if not better. The main thing I like about ramie, is it's is so fine and uniform. Very easy to work with, compress and thread through micro coils. That's the main reason I wanted to like it and struggled with it to wick properly at max watts. Think I had one of those Vapeiphanies' one hears about. lol.
 
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