"The Russian" 91% (Kayfun Lite Clone With A Twist)

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Hi, just a heads up.
1) I went ahead and purchased a bagfull of them... they don't work :(. They don't fit any of our standard juice bottles, I don't know they are manufactured for what!
2) Good news is, The Russian doesn't need them anyway. It can be filled with our standard needle top juice bottles.

Sorry you had to spend money to find out qorax. :unsure:
 

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careful using metal tips. if the russian has a valve like the real kayfun svoe mesto says you can damage the valve using a steel tip. unfortunately i didnt listen and one of my full size KF's now has a stuck open fill valve (after several moths of doing this), going to drill it out and thread it for a screw someday.

after talking with others the plastic tips push the valve cover back allowing juice to flow in without entering the valve housing, the steel tips are straight and go all the way into the valve pushing the cover back and to the side possibly jamming or breaking the spring,
 
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Sorry you had to spend money to find out qorax. :unsure:

No issues mate... I was desperate to get some anyway since my Russian was on the way... and I thought they were a must based on Busardo's vid. Didn't know that the current one's are v2, which do not need them! Todd got this new ones, the v2 later as well.
 

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careful using metal tips. if the russian has a valve like the real kayfun svoe mesto says you can damage the valve using a steel tip. unfortunately i didnt listen and one of my full size KF's now has a stuck open fill valve (after several moths of doing this), going to drill it out and thread it for a screw someday.

after talking with others the plastic tips push the valve cover back allowing juice to flow in without entering the valve housing, the steel tips are straight and go all the way into the valve pushing the cover back and to the side possibly jamming or breaking the spring,

My valve got stuck open on my Kayfun 3.1 a couple of weeks ago. It was actually due to juice sludge build-up, rather than physical damage. I was able to free it by doing a push-pull-push-pull with a syringe and hot water. It only took 10 seconds to free it, and now it's as good as new. So now, if I think to, I'll do that same push-pull flushing once every couple of weeks to keep that from happening again.

I flushed the fill valve directly, and then did the same from the top of the base in the tank inlet hole leading from the fill valve. When you can push but not pull (or vice versa), you've fixed it.

PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a few plastic tips, and you can try it yourself. It's worth a shot before you resort to taking a drill to your Kayfun. :x
 

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careful using metal tips. if the russian has a valve like the real kayfun svoe mesto says you can damage the valve using a steel tip. unfortunately i didnt listen and one of my full size KF's now has a stuck open fill valve (after several moths of doing this), going to drill it out and thread it for a screw someday.

after talking with others the plastic tips push the valve cover back allowing juice to flow in without entering the valve housing, the steel tips are straight and go all the way into the valve pushing the cover back and to the side possibly jamming or breaking the spring,

Sir, the current Russians are v2. They have a different, upgraded valve ("specially bought from USA" - that's what the description says, LOL:D). These are perfectly made for the metal needles.
 

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Sir, the current Russians are v2. They have a different, upgraded valve ("specially bought from USA" - that's what the description says, LOL:D). These are perfectly made for the metal needles.
well i wouldnt know. dont have one and the reason i said "if"

funny a chinese clone using USA parts though lol


PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a few plastic tips, and you can try it yourself. It's worth a shot before you resort to taking a drill to your Kayfun. :x
it really is shot, even resorted to boiling to try and clean it, then looking down from the wick side you can see the spring in the hole just laying there. doesnt matter. have another 3.1 and 2 lights so not going to ruin my day. hate that valve idea anyways and a nice little rubber plug will work fine lol
 
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So, unexpected delivery today, just got my Russian 91% in the mail from: The Russian 91% Rebuildable Atomizer

Still shows 19 in stock. Build quality seems pretty good. The threading is a bit more coarse than my KFL that I got the other day, but still very high quality. The only real bummer was that there was a little scratch on one of the tank parts (in the sealed box, it has some foil authenticity sticker thing). But its minor enough that I'm not going the fret.

Strangely enough the 91% is better at mounting flush with the PV Cone that I got from inTaste than the KFL itself, probably due to the adjustable 510 connector. Just did my first build in it with 32ga Kanthal and XC-116. Seems to work just fine and the adjustable airflow is great (it does make a bit of a whistle sound as you tighten it, but I think that is too be expected.) Will post pics when I get home from work in the morning.

Either way, Russian 91% are in the states ^_^.
 

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So, unexpected delivery today, just got my Russian 91% in the mail from: The Russian 91% Rebuildable Atomizer

Still shows 19 in stock. Build quality seems pretty good. The threading is a bit more coarse than my KFL that I got the other day, but still very high quality. The only real bummer was that there was a little scratch on one of the tank parts (in the sealed box, it has some foil authenticity sticker thing). But its minor enough that I'm not going the fret.

Strangely enough the 91% is better at mounting flush with the PV Cone that I got from inTaste than the KFL itself, probably due to the adjustable 510 connector. Just did my first build in it with 32ga Kanthal and XC-116. Seems to work just fine and the adjustable airflow is great (it does make a bit of a whistle sound as you tighten it, but I think that is too be expected.) Will post pics when I get home from work in the morning.

Either way, Russian 91% are in the states ^_^.

The one and only flaw I saw on the Russian was in the air channel. When they drilled and tapped for the adjustment screw hole, they didn't remove a small piece of metal that got pushed out into the air channel. I just pushed it in with a screwdriver, it broke off, and then removed it. Besides that minor detail, flawless. Can't wait to get the 91%
 

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Arrrgh! Still waiting on my pre-order and have a couple of gennies on the way now, so I don't think I'll pull the trigger on this one.

How is the quality?

Pretty good overall, I'm a bit bummed about the scratch, you will see it in the pics below, but I've found I don't really like the finish of the Russian anyway, so eventually I may just refinish the whole thing into a brushed finish. It's just gets all fingerprinty and stuff.

The first thing I noticed is that the packaging is much nicer than what comes with the KFL (the cheap little box that holds nothing but the KFL):

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Size wise they are pretty much the exact same, the Russian 91% comes with the standard tip and the drip tip adapter, where as the KFL just uses drip tips. The one bummer is that the Russian 91% doesn't actually come with the tip to use with the adapter.

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I do like that it came with some wick and wire, though that point is largely irrelevant to most people.

One thing I really like is the screw within a screw adjustable 510 connector, its pretty nifty and makes flush mounting the Russian 91% a breeze. The one thing you have to get used to is it's very loose, so it tends to move in too much if you remove it from your mod and reconnect it without unthreading it slightly. The advantage of this is that you can just unthread it your finger nail and then when you twist it down, if it's not flush, you just kinda jiggle it looser/tighter and it will flush up.

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As for the adjustable airflow, it works great, and is very easy to use. I didn't notice any of the issues that ElectricalSocket mentioned. You can also see the scratch just above the air hole in this photo, my guess is they nicked it with a screwdriver when testing it before sealing the box.

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Overall, the quality is quite good, not quite as high as the KFL (looking forward to v2 ^_^), but still very good. I think the finish is going to come down to a personal taste thing, as it by no means looks bad, it just annoys me.

There are just two thing I want to mention:

1. The clear tank insert appears to be made of another material and is sort of cloudy and not as clear as the KFL tank. It also doesn't appear to be quite as well machined, the one upside is it doesn't have seams like the KFL one does.

2. I'm not entirely sure that the threading of the Russian 91% actually matches the threading of the KFL. I only tested quickly when I was building them before work, but when I tried to screw one of the Russian parts into the KFL, it kinda felt like it was cross threading as I tightened it down so I stopped. I only tried it for a sec, so I could be wrong, but after I did it I did do a visual comparison and the threading did look different. Either way I will have to retest when I break them both down.

Also, don't misunderstand, the threading on the Russian 91% is solid and all the parts fit together seamlessly, and while the threading is a bit more coarse than the KFL, it is not detrimental in anyway. I mainly wanted to point it out in case anyone saw the part compatibility with the KFL as a big selling point.

Anyway, if there is anything specific that you want pictures of, or have any specific questions let me know. (if it requires it be disassembled, it will probably have to wait a few days, as I will probably not be taking it apart for a day or 2).

Oh, and you will definitely want to clean the Russian 91% before use (I usually clean anything I use before hand, but there was visible residue on it when I got it, just looked like dust or something but might as well let ya know).
 

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Amnesia, your unboxing review delivers.

I'm like you regarding the scratch and the matte finish. I'll probably just take a 320-grit sanding sponge to mine and give them a brushed finish first thing.

If you tighten the 510 center screw all the way in, is it recessed? Can you unscrew the receiving socket it screws into some to expose the 510 center screw a bit more when it's fully tightened? I believe loose, jiggly connections invite voltage drop, and therefore plan to use my battery mod's 510 pin adjustment, rather than using the Russian 91's screw to adjust height.
 

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Amnesia, your unboxing review delivers.

I'm like you regarding the scratch and the matte finish. I'll probably just take a 320-grit sanding sponge to mine and give them a brushed finish first thing.

If you tighten the 510 center screw all the way in, is it recessed? Can you unscrew the receiving socket it screws into some to expose the 510 center screw a bit more when it's fully tightened? I believe loose, jiggly connections invite voltage drop, and therefore plan to use my battery mod's 510 pin adjustment, rather than using the Russian 91's screw to adjust height.

I'm pretty sure the main screw that it threads into is just like the one on the KFL, where if you tighten it, it will torque/twist the part where the wires attach, but from what I can tell, if you twist the adjustable bit in all the way, its completely snug and ever so slightly recessed. It confused me at first since it didn't fire. I just appreciate the feature as its super useful for devices like my Provari which have no adjustable center pin. One thing I really like is that I can truly flush mount the Russian 91% with my Provari Ring, where as the KFL leaves a ever so small gap.

Edit: I should also add that from what I've found so far, you can be pretty confident that the inner screw is snug, since you can just torque it down (doesn't take THAT much force) when it's over extended, so its tight against the pin, but your device is totally flush.

Now I just need to find more good juices to use in the KFL and 91%. The first one I put in it was an Orange juice that tastes like tic-tacs, but it was 16mg instead of the 10-12mg I've been using as of late, and it ended up tasting a bit harsh, between the extra vapor production, the added throat hit, and the harshness of citric juices in general, it was kicking my .... When I refilled with my 10mg Pluid I was much happier (gotta stock up on pluid... it's just so damn good). If anyone has any suggestions for any other eliquids that have the big flavor and thick bodied vapor of pluid, without tons of harshness, I'm all ears ^_^.
 
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I've been digging DIY lately. It can save you some money, and with some practice it's delicious. Even my first bottle was still acceptable-to-good, better than some of the premade juices I've tried and very vapeable.

I got my nic juice and first flavorings from RTS Vapes. I got a vanilla cupcake flavor that tasted fantastic, but it wasn't concentrated. So I was using about 25% flavoring, which gets expensive.

I started getting my flavoring from High Desert Vapes. Their concentrates are pretty good, Here's a recipe if you want to get started:

100ml total
* 22ml sweetener
* 5ml vanilla cupcake concentrate
* 3ml vanilla custard concentrate
* 3ml coconut concentrate
* whatever amount of nic you like
* 25ml VG
* fill to 100ml with PG

Steep for a day or two, and vape. Make adjustments as you see fit.

Or if you just want pre-mixed juice, I'm really fond of tastyvapor.us cupcake with coconut and vanilla custard. I love it, and everyone I've let sample it emphatically requests its source.
 
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So, unexpected delivery today, just got my Russian 91% in the mail from: The Russian 91% Rebuildable Atomizer

Still shows 19 in stock. Build quality seems pretty good. The threading is a bit more coarse than my KFL that I got the other day, but still very high quality. The only real bummer was that there was a little scratch on one of the tank parts (in the sealed box, it has some foil authenticity sticker thing). But its minor enough that I'm not going the fret.

Strangely enough the 91% is better at mounting flush with the PV Cone that I got from inTaste than the KFL itself, probably due to the adjustable 510 connector. Just did my first build in it with 32ga Kanthal and XC-116. Seems to work just fine and the adjustable airflow is great (it does make a bit of a whistle sound as you tighten it, but I think that is too be expected.) Will post pics when I get home from work in the morning.

Either way, Russian 91% are in the states ^_^.

How long did it take to get yours from HiTecVapor?

I ordered mine when it showed IN STOCK ( not pre order, i even asked them if it was actually in stock and they said yes ) i have yet to receive a shipping notice and i cannot get ahold of them thru FB, Calling or Email..I am beginning to wonder?
 
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