The Smoktech VMax

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Puffythegun

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Hey Puffy - flavor is the main thing I want to maximize now that vapor production isn't problem any more. Can you tell me exactly what kind of cartos those are? (Make, single coil .... ) Haven't heard of 3.3's; are those 3.0's or 3.5's that just happen to measure 3.3?

Also, did you get your "5.0" problem sorted out, and if so did it look like it ws a problem with the unit itself, or ....gulp .... user error? Thx.
All good now, no frackin instructions. I had some 3ohm cartos around and some were up to 3.5.
 

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Does the VMax have vent holes? Hard to tell on the black ones. Sounds like a cool device.

Yes, it has the best vent holes of any PV on the planet. LOL

Yeah, it has four or five on the end cap. They wouldn't do much in a serious battery "event", but if you use IMR batteries that have a very safe chemistry, the chances of one are remote IMO. If you use only AW-brand IMR 18350 Lithium-Manganese batteries, I think you will be pretty damn safe.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys. I'm just thinking about vent holes because this is a mod that uses stacked bats.

So many mods, so little money. What's a vaper to do?

I used to tell people to buy a vmax, but hey whattayaknow mine just bought the ticket. It worked for 3 weeks before the button failed and now its just a really expensive metal tube.

Save yourself the missery and dont buy this piece of junk.
 

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I used to tell people to buy a vmax, but hey whattayaknow mine just bought the ticket. It worked for 3 weeks before the button failed and now its just a really expensive metal tube.

Save yourself the missery and dont buy this piece of junk.


I think you might have just got one that had a faulty button from the start, and thats kinda the button manufacturer's fault. Not the actual device or Smoktech's fault. That why you are able to send it back and get a replacement for it. They have a warranty on them just for that reason. I can name quite a few very high end expensive mods that have ALL had a button fail or be some sort of issue for the mod whether it be, sticking, stuck, failure, or just plain broken but in NO WAY would I or could I deem those mods "pieces of junk" cause it's just simply not the case. I would guesstimate that 5 out of 500 buttons, switches, regulators, capacitors, pot's, board's, etc... are faulty or defective from the factory. It's just the way it is. You happen to be the one that had 1 of those bad buttons and I'm sorry it happened to you. I've got 2 VMAX's, both in my Avatar up top, the chrome was sent to me 1st almost 2 or 3 months ago, and the black I've had about a month now. I have had not 1 problem or issue with either unit in any way. The buttons work flawlessly, the end caps are very snug and flush-fitting (although noalox did assist in keeping the caps quite and smooth spinning but thats needed with ALL threaded & cap mods) and screws down perfectly. So far I'm still extremely happy with both VMAX's and still very impressed by Smoktech's effort to get in the Variable Voltage game. Not a bad 1st try in my opinion. For the people that have 1 and love it, .....glad to hear it, for the unfortunate that have had a issue with theirs, ......sorry for your bad luck, but try to keep in mind before you get too upset and go to posting about it, the vendor you purchased it from should have a warranty in place just for you so please take a minute to give them a call and work out getting a new unit sent out to you. And after you get it and have some time to spend enjoying it then come and give us a update...good or bad. Take care everyone, and no matter what your PV is.....just enjoy using it . :)
 

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I just wanted to say how purdy post #31 is! Nice quoting, man! That looks gorgeous!

And no, I never ever did hear from lassep. I really did want to buy that VMax from him, but maybe he's sent it in under the one-year warranty by now and gotten a free replacement. In any case, it's good to know that he has that option, and isn't going to be left hanging, nor anyone else, in the relatively unlikely IMO event of a button failure within the first three weeks of use.
 

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maybe he's sent it in under the one-year warranty by now and gotten a free replacement

When you say send it in, it costs money to ship it back, so that's really not a free replacement. Time waiting to get the new one is also a hidden cost. If you know a vendor who provides prepaid return labels for faulty Smoktech products, please do share.

VAPENJ350, Did you buy both of your devices??? (MODERATED) Sorry if I'm wrong.
 
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When you say send it in, it costs money to ship it back, so that's really not a free replacement. Time waiting to get the new one is also a hidden cost. If you know a vendor who provides prepaid return labels for faulty Smoktech products, please do share.

VAPENJ350, Did you buy both of your devices??? (MODERATED). Sorry if I'm wrong.
Depending on where he got his VMAX, the vendor usually will send out a NEW replacement with a RETURN label for the defective one!
 
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When you say send it in, it costs money to ship it back, so that's really not a free replacement. Time waiting to get the new one is also a hidden cost. If you know a vendor who provides prepaid return labels for faulty Smoktech products, please do share.

VAPENJ350, Did you buy both of your devices??? (MODERATED). Sorry if I'm wrong.

Are you by chance an ardent ProVari proponent/owner? I don't see the shipping costs associated with a potential VMax failure as a particularly big deal, but I'll be happy to revise my position to "free replacement, with shipping costs tacked on".

And implying that VAP is "a shill" is not really called for IMO, and might even be a violation of the forum rules.

He is an electrical engineer who was asked by a vendor to evaluate one or more advance units, which he did, and reported his results on, both here, and I assume, to the vendor as well. To call his comments "shilling" is to call into question his honesty and morals, which I don't think is very nice of you at all.

And if someone wants to try to accuse me of being a "VMax fanboy" or something, I offer this, from the now-(in)famous "Big VMax Thread" (RIP) :

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-new-variable-voltage-device-smoktech-75.html (Epic thread, especially posts 727-765)

Me: "First, before saying any more, just to distance myself from any possible "VMax Fanboy" labelling, I just posted this in another thread on another forum, where someone was pondering whether to buy the VMax v1.? or the new 4 amp [IIRC] Lavatube:

"If I were about to be stranded on a desert island with a 110v outlet, and had to choose between the V2max and the ProVari V2, I'd take the ProVari in a New York nanosecond. The VMax is obviously very new, and has a long way to go before proving itself in the areas that the ProVari is deservedly legendary for. It might take a while before it is refined, reprogrammed, or otherwise tweaked to make it more of a ProVari-class APV in reliability (if v1.0 really does have issues there - mine is fine) and "driveability" ("Jane, how do you stop this crazy thinggggg!"). But since I'm not marooned at the moment, my next purchase will be another VMax or two, preferably "miscalibrated" just like the first one. I do not believe in de-clawing (wild)cats".

Now, a little more about that "review" by "Fazed", who I now have about zero respect for. What a major embarrassment to himself and to Reviewing in general! Oh ... my .... God. What a blatant hatchet-job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXx7DdswAZU&feature=channel&list=UL

Later in that thread:

Originally Posted by KeysBum

"What if the choice was three Vmax or one ProVari. Because at the price we're paying on the co-op, you have three+ for the price of one".

My answer:

" ......... Finally, on to our resident island-hopper, speaking of desert islands ...

At this point, I honestly have insufficient data to go on. Courtney at All About Vapor has told me that of their first batch of VMax v1.0's, they have had one returned with a button problem. I have heard rumblings about others, including the widely-splattered problem that Lassep says he had with his, although it appears that he prefers his "wall decoration" to my cash, and appears to be unfamiliar with the concept of a "warranty", which for the VMax is one year if I have that right.

There are other variables to consider that are hard to nail down. Are we talking about three VMax 1.0's? How long will I be stranded? Will any "button issue", if there turns out to be one, be addressed and fixed, in which case would we then be talking about three VMax v1.x's? Will enough time have passed for me to be reasonably sure that the hypothetically "rectified" device as a whole will be as reliable as I currently believe the ProVari to be?

At this exact moment, assuming an island stay of 5 years, and a choice of three VMax 1.0's vs. one Provari V2, I would have to go with the Provari. It just has too good a proven history of reliability to make me feel comfortable with the VMax for such a prolonged and lonely stay, a loneliness that I feel could likely be best assuaged by the company of a good vape, with the possible exception of an abundance of coconuts and bananas. But I would still miss the vape, and could probably never eat another banana for the rest of my life.

Now I'm off to apply for an ISBN number for this post. Enjoy your MODERATED damned vape all, and if you're happy with your device, I am very, very happy for you.

Now I'm off to watch one of my favorite programs, "As the Reputation Crumbles".

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Can't wait to buy my chrome Provari with blue LED display. I do love me some ProVari. Also love my Black Beast. I hope that doesn't make me a bygamist or something. Better check into that.

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And if someone wants to "jump me" for anything I'm saying, I'd like to add something that I wrote to one of the moderators, which I think I'm free to share:

Selected text:

"I'm going to be a lot less likely in the future to reply directly to provocation, but will instead just ask for moderator assistance when someone jumps me. For example, the thread in Video Reviews that just got closed. Someone comes in, and is rude and off-topic, criticizing the length of my previous post, and [essentially] calling me a [VMax] fanboy. That is the point at which I should have asked for assistance, since that was already a violation of forum rules; looking to start trouble, and off-topic. I'll redouble my efforts to do that, instead of following them off-topic by posting evidence that I am not (x, y, or z). or whatever I'm being accused of".

So if anyone - residents of the Great State of Washington in particular - wishes to respond to anything I say, please bear my "new approach" in mind, Thanks in advance for a civil, fruitful discussion.
 
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I used to tell people to buy a vmax, but hey whattayaknow mine just bought the ticket. It worked for 3 weeks before the button failed and now its just a really expensive metal tube.

Save yourself the missery and dont buy this piece of junk.

What ohm atomizer or cartomizer were you running at the time it failed? If it was a dual coil or low resistance, it failed because the mod spikes peaks up to 11V which the switch isn't capable of handling. Even if a manufacturer or vendor states that a mod, with a mother board can handle a dual coil, you're playing with a train wreck. A 5amp switch can't handle the load from a device that spikes in voltage. However, Smoktech is aware of the problem and has corrected it. Instead of calling it junk, send it back to the vendor for replacement....you might be surprised that the "fixed" version won't cause you problems as long as you don't run low resistance on it. However, it's your money so do as you please.
 

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Well in response to Nrustica's kinda snide comment I think John D summed it up for the most part but I do have a few things to add to make things perfectly clear. Yes the CHROME VMAX was sent to me free of charge to test on my equipment, then a fellow vaper inquired if since it was Chrome , and that finish option has not been released yet, is it the same as the actual release unit as far as power and internals go. So, I actually bought the black unit for wholesale for 2 reasons, 1) after finding out not only the raw numbers on the Chrome unit but just how well it performed overall. And 2) I wanted to test both units (Chrome & Black) side by side to make sure My test numbers were accurate for the released unit also. And they were. Side by side, dead even numbers for both units, although I did get some off numbers here and there but were very very miniscule and nowhere near enough to say their was a difference between the 2,not to mention the numbers were showing the Chrome unit to be slightly weaker than the actual released unit, and come to find out it was merely due to low AW batteries in the Chrome unit. And the main thing and VERY IMPORTANT , I did not, and am not, nor have NOT received 1 dime from Smoktech or any vendor for saying or posting 1 statement good or bad about the VMAX. Did I get to keep the Chrome unit ? Yep, I insisted on sending it back ( though I didn't want to) and it was insisted I keep it for the time I spent testing it....so I did. And the 6+ hours I spent on the bench taking it completely apart testing everything inside under a magnifier, to inspecting the tube, end cap, button, display etc... that device didn't come close to my hourly rate as a EE. If I'm not mistaken most all reviewers that do reviews on mods keep the mod after their done, I may be wrong on a few of them but I've spoke personally to a few big reviewers that do the whole you tube deal and they keep theirs. I don't feel or think I did anything out of line with my posts. I merely received a unit, tested it rigorously, found it to be very impressive and tried to let people know what I thought of it AS MY OPINION. This is the 1st time I've ever even taken the time to do this, after the heat I'm taking and snide little names I've been called I'm starting to wonder what I do next time I find a product that is really impressive to me. Do I keep it to myself, or do what I did with the VMAX. And really all I tried to do was a solid service to the vaping family by letting them know of a product that was definitely something to find out more about and keep their eye out for. Was that wrong in some way I'm just not aware of ?? Take care everyone.
 

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I thank you for the input we have all received from you on the Vmax. I have found your review to be most informative. It does bother me that you have been attacked for your open, honest and scientific review. But what you need to understand, and I think you do, is that there are some in our community that cannot accept that there may be a PV that can rival or surpass the sacred ProVari. The ProVari is a religious icon to some, and to suggest that there be "another" is heresy. Heretics, historically, have been dispatched in unimaginably gruesome ways. Fortunately for you, (and me) heretics (at least in the USA) can no longer be burned at the stake. Trying to convince the ProVari cult that there is "another" is akin to convincing evangelicals that there is no personal savior.
 
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