The two step method.

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Papillon61

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I've been reading around about this. Most people mix their flavours into a base of vodka or water and let that steep overnight and then add it to their nicotine base and they consider it ready to vape. However these people are generally using a 100% VG base so for them the vodka or water is more or less essential.

I use a 50/50 nic base and I don't feel the need to add more liquid. So my question is - could one mix the flavours on their own and let them sit overnight or perhaps a little longer and then add the required quantity to the nic base? Would it work the same?
 

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More experienced DIYers can chime in, but I think you can do this. I found some recipes for a banana cream base - why buy it when I have the flavors in stock to make it? I'm going to mix some up, try it, and then use it in other recipes that call for banana cream. I want to do the same with strawberries & cream. The concept is the same as the 2 step process - make the base then add the nic.
 

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I would say No, If the mix requires any kind of steeping the NIC is a big part of the flavor steeping process. Thus it all needs to steep together to get the proper result in the final mix. Steeping just flavor does nothing as flavoring alone does not require steeping it's the flavor blending into the Nicotine and base fluids is what needs to be accomplished for proper melding of the mix.
 

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I've been reading around about this. Most people mix their flavours into a base of vodka or water and let that steep overnight and then add it to their nicotine base and they consider it ready to vape. However these people are generally using a 100% VG base so for them the vodka or water is more or less essential.

I use a 50/50 nic base and I don't feel the need to add more liquid. So my question is - could one mix the flavours on their own and let them sit overnight or perhaps a little longer and then add the required quantity to the nic base? Would it work the same?

I've actually never heard of folks doing that; I just put the flavorings in the bottle, add PG and/or VG, and finally add the concentrated nic. I do this all in one shot. I really don't think steeping the flavors alone does much good, since the real reason is to let the flavors combine with (and bond to) the PG and VG, not to each other!
 

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Taste is subjective. I say go for it and see if you like it. I have a complex custard that I made by mistake. Now I make it that way all the time. It has 7 flavors what I did to save time is mix just the flavors in a 30 ml bottle. I figured that when I wanted to make up a batch just add pg/vg and nicotine "which is very low" and not have to measure the individual flavors each time. The 30 ml flavor bottle would sorta steep. When I make a batch to vape I let that steep too. Hint always have a batch steeping :p The mistake was one time I only used 6 flavors and added the 7th flavor after it had steeped the second time. BAM :evil: it was out of this world to me. To me DIY is more of a Art than science.
 

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This is silly
The problem is the flavoring needs to blend with your vg and that's what takes a while. That's why the crock pot method works so good.
The vg gets warm and thins out to the consistency of pg. You shake the crap out of it when its thin causing everything to blend together. Let it sit overnight the vg thickens back up and it's ready to vape.
 

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Or buy one of these. Problem solved!
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I got mine on ebay for $5 I think. It mixes the juice so well you can't see through it. I do that 3 times (mix, wait for ejuice to clear, mix again, etc) and its good to go!
 

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I do have one of those. But I thought steeping was not just the mixing. I always thought it was like a Christmas Pudding - you make it months before so the flavours can fuse together. I could be wrong of course.

Or you could be right lol. I don't really know because I haven't tried different methods, but what I do know is that my tobacco mixes change with some steep time. Some very little, some a lot. I have some that I can do shake and vape but even those improve with a couple days of steeping.

Several folks use high percents to make shake and vape mixes. You can check that out in the TFA thread if you're interested.
 

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It's a juice mixer, nice. What size bottle are you using that thing in? Could you possibly drop a link to the model you have? I'd like to give it a try
I just searched "ikea milk frother" on ebay.

It is about the aging, but I don't do the accelerated aging of my juice (crock pot, hot water bath, etc). The reason I use the mixer is because I think it does a hell of a lot better job of mixing than "shake violently". LOL!!

I mix it 3 times and wait in between for all the air bubbles to dissipate. Works out really well in my opinion!
 

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All that matters is it works for you. I want one so I can use it after I crock pot the juice. 4-6 hours in the crock being shaken every hour seems to speed the steep time up enormously.

It takes my custard almost a month to turn the color it does after being in the crock pot for 5 hours.

I try to make a 500ml bottle at a time of the custard so i have some left after selling most of it
 

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All that matters is it works for you. I want one so I can use it after I crock pot the juice. 4-6 hours in the crock being shaken every hour seems to speed the steep time up enormously.

It takes my custard almost a month to turn the color it does after being in the crock pot for 5 hours.

I try to make a 500ml bottle at a time of the custard so i have some left after selling most of it


There is a lot of truth to heat steeping but nothing can replace natural time steeping to me and a lot of others :toast:

There are a lot of good threads on different steeping methods. From ppl why are much more experienced than myself which I have learned a lot
 
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