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The VAMO battery thread

Discussion in 'VAMO' started by caged, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. Heden Aklowd

    Heden Aklowd Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2013
    Ferntucky, NV
    I've found that stacked 18350s (900mAh + 900mAh = 1800mAh) last longer than 1 2200mAh 18650.
     
  2. Tritium

    Tritium Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    It's a high discharge battery but you are on the limits with the low capacity, it won't last long. You can use it however.
     
  3. RaceGun59

    RaceGun59 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2013
    Owensboro, KY
    Stacking batteries increases the voltage but not the mAh. Batteries in parallel increases the mAh but not the voltage.
     
  4. xpen

    xpen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2012
    Italy
    Yes, the vamo is more efficient at stepping down voltage than at stepping it up. Like anything else, i suppose :)

     
  5. Gargy777

    Gargy777 Full Member

    Jul 22, 2012
    Ontario
    I'd like to use my Vamo V3 in single 18350 mode. My supplier only has the Efest 18350s available, not the AWs. I'm wondering how much battery life the 800mah Efest would give in single mode, anyone know?
     
  6. xpen

    xpen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2012
    Italy
    Efest IMR 18350s are usually good enough (if you don't push the A too much), the only point being a 18350 doesn't last very long in general. When I've tried it, a single 18350 lasted about half an hour for me, but someone else reported a few hours of vaping on one of those; it's really completely subjective...

    My suggestion: resistance around 2.5ohm, W <=8 and you're likely to maximise its duration (still depending on your vaping pattern though)

     
  7. ricks

    ricks Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
    Moscow PA
    My efest batteries last me several hours. What are you using to give you an half an hour?
     
  8. xpen

    xpen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2012
    Italy
    I chainvape a lot. Couple that to low-res atomizers and you're done :)

    As I said, it's highly subjective. For me a single 18350 is useless, but hey that's just me..

     
  9. nightrider89

    nightrider89 Full Member

    Apr 2, 2013
    USA
    quick question on the hybrid. so whats the deal with these? basically protected high drain?

    I saw that these are the newest batteries from Panasonic, the NCR18650PF. supposedly they are high drain but FT says they are unprotected. i thought hybdrids are?
     
  10. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Hybrid, in this case, means the chemistry of the battery is hybrid, a combination of existing chemistries to produce a desired result.
     
  11. Strontium

    Strontium Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Mar 8, 2012
    Hurricane State
    Please do not mix word Protected with hybrid, or safe chemistry.

    Protected batteries have nothing to do with chemistry, and usually are not used in vaping because of their length.

    Protected batteries are mostly used in flashlights.

    Using word Protected on this forum results -many vapers are buying Protected batteries that will not fit in their mods.
     
  12. awsum140

    awsum140 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Most lithium batteries are inherently protected, it's just a question of how. IMR is a "safer" chemistry that is designed to prevent, or at least mitigate, thermal runaway. So there is some "protection" there. A "protected" battery has in internal electronic limiting circuit that limits the available current output to a safe level. Hopefully it also has a chemistry that mitigates thermal runaway in case it shorts internally, ahead of the protection circuit, or the protection circuit happens to fail.
     
  13. nightrider89

    nightrider89 Full Member

    Apr 2, 2013
    USA
    sorry! i just wanted clarification as sometimes there are mixed answers. many members on the forum use different batteries on their mods and there seems to be different opinion on which is best/safer. I am just trying to learn from that and see which ones are best before i purchase a product.

    i just want to express my concerns now so i make the right choice. some members on the chat told me to use protected so it doesnt blow in my face. <-- that right there is a major concern that i wanted to be addressed here.

    and as for my understanding, it seems like the hybrid batts are the best to get because the safer chemistry allows them to vent better than others?

    thanks for all the clarification! haha i'm pretty much a noob when it comes around to vaping. :vapor:
     
  14. Denrock316

    Denrock316 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 31, 2010
    Ohio, USA
    I haven't read every post in this thread, but I did skim through most of it. I haven't seen any mention of using a IMR 16340 for Vamo small mode. It's very nearly identical in size to a 18350 and same 3.7v etc...(only real difference is 700mah instead of 800) Well I put one in my new Vamo V5 and it works perfectly. Also it doesn't rattle either. Grimm Green did this in a Vamo review also. Anyway just wanted to let everyone know in case anyone has some 16340s sitting around and want to use them for small mode Vamo. I just happened to have 8 of them that were supposed to be 4prs for another mod but that mod has bit the bullet, so I just ordered a second Vamo V5 this one Black Chrome.
     
  15. Tommy Aces

    Tommy Aces Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 28, 2013
    Connecticut
    You can, but I'm not sure they are rated to safely push the amperage you'll want to safely operate the device. The AW IMR 16340 is only rated to 4A I believe. I'm assuming the 700 mAh 16340 you speak of is the EH and at best is rated similar to the AW. the VAMO has a 5 amp switch, so combined with a low charge battery and depending on the amps that the circuitry is drawing, you could easily exceed the safe operating capacity of those batteries.
     
  16. ClaireW

    ClaireW Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    North of ATL. Georgia
    Hi everyone. I'm planning to order a vamo v5 from fast tech https://www.fasttech.com/product/1491700

    I read this thread about batteries and got more confused. I'm hoping someone can point me to a link to a good charger?. Not one that will blow up like the one I read about in the other thread. ;-)

    And a link to good batteries?

    It doesn't have to be from fasttech. Any help us appreciated! TY.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
     
  17. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    Taxachusetts
    I've been using a Nitecore I2 that I got from FT with my V2 kit.
    It's rated as safe and best bang for my buck. It's worked flawlessly.
    FT has the I2 with US plug with car adapter for $16 and change.

    I get my AW IMR batteries from https://rtdvapor.com/

    EDIT:
    I'm not sure how safe the car adapter is.
    I don't use one and it seems like a good feature but now that I think about it maybe not such a good idea.
    Maybe just as an emergency backup on a long trip but I have 8 batteries for 3 devices.
    I don't need a car charger and probably won't get one.
     
  18. ClaireW

    ClaireW Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    North of ATL. Georgia
    Thanks for reply and pointing me to rtdvapor site!

    I'm not to big on many car charging devices. I have one piece that has USB and a regular plug I keep around in case I loose power in my house.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
     
  19. ClaireW

    ClaireW Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    North of ATL. Georgia
    Curious if these are good batteries? For a vamo v5

    Unprotected correct? Button or flat top doesn't make a difference?

    http://rtdvapor.com/index.php/batteries/aw-imr-18650-3-7v-2000mah.html

    And then I can get 18350 and use either one our two of those at a Time? Should I bother with the smaller?

    AW , EFEST or Panasonic's seem to be the better to use with vamo?

    How long do these batteries typically take to charge?

    Thank you!



    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
     
  20. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    Taxachusetts
    A few hours. I have 4 AW 650s and 2 AW 490s for my Provari.
    I also have 2 AW 350s for my Vamos.
    AW IMRs are basically the industry standard and are excellent.

    I use the Panasonic Hybrid/IMR CGR18650CH Flat Top in my Vamos.
    Panasonic Hybrid/IMR CGR18650CH Flat Top - Batteries
    They're $7.50 ea They were $7.50 ea last week. Now they're $8.95 :blink:
    They last a little longer and are still a couple of dollars cheaper but if they were 9 instead of 7.50 when I last bought a batch I probably would have gone with the AWs.
    The AW 350s are good but do you use a high amp topper? no need to stack if you're not.
    I just use a single 350 in shorty mode when I hike.
     

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