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The VW trap, am I the only one?

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  1. crawler65

    crawler65 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    So I had some VV devices, and some mechs, and then I got a Vamo, my 1st VW mod. VW was terrific, but then I had to do the math when I took an atty off of the Vamo and put it on a VV only device. Now I'm just using the VV on my Vamo so I know my volts all the time LOL! Numbers are hard, numbers are stupid hard :p
    Am I the dummy that has done this?:oops:
     
  2. theinlawjosie

    theinlawjosie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2013
    The Bluegrass State
    I'm right there with ya! Numbers are hard! Haha. They are so hard for me, that I don't even try to figure out what wattage or voltage I should be at. I just start low and adjust to taste. Numbers make my head hurt. :toast:
     
  3. vjc0628

    vjc0628 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 23, 2013
    Maryville TN
    No real math, I just find the wattage that give me best flav and when I change device maybe lower ohms the vamo adjusts the voltage automatically

    I do find I need to adjust a little by flave but not much

    most for me comes in-between 5.5 and 6.5 watts mostly stay at 6 watts

    no matter the resistance while on VV I might have the lowest resistance on maybe 3.6 volts but highest maybe 4.6

    also on VW I don't worry about burning coils but I've done that on VV
     
  4. State O' Flux

    State O' Flux Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2013
    Seattle
    Ah... don't do that. M-Kay? :p
     
  5. Barbara21

    Barbara21 Moved On

    May 21, 2013
    Greenville, SC, USA
    Heck, you're way ahead of me. I don't understand VV and VW at all, let along all this talk about ohms, resistors, coils, etc.
     
  6. State O' Flux

    State O' Flux Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2013
    Seattle
    Buy a VW... put it on 8.0 watts and fug-ged-aboud-dit. ;-)
     
  7. BigBen2k

    BigBen2k Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    MA, USA
    That's great; that's exactly what VW's are for.

    I'm still sticking to my unregulated battery, even knowing its flaws. I find the performance is acceptable, and the price is right, for me.
     
  8. nicetucu

    nicetucu Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 19, 2013
    Salem, Oregon
    My sweet spot is 8.5 Watts.... Surprised to see people liking lower Wattage.
     
  9. State O' Flux

    State O' Flux Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2013
    Seattle
    Lots of variables... If I was a "11 watt guy", I'd wonder about both of us, eh? ;-)
     
  10. wbbrn1952

    wbbrn1952 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 7, 2013
    Pensacola, FL, USA
    I have wattage settings that I have figured out for various liquids but I love using the VAMO - went to the beach yesterday and took my ego-T with a BCC attached and glad I had the VAMO in the car; because I did not enjoy my vape with the ego-t near as much as with the VAMO.
     
  11. Thunderball

    Thunderball Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 5, 2013
    Grayson, Georgia
    I have learned to back down on volts/watts if I even get an "inkling" that the coil is so hot that it may want to singe the wick no matter what topper I am using. I dont care what it reads as far as a number, with the exception that what ever it reads at my "sweet spot", thats were it will stay with that certain coil/ohm (until the ohms go up). I say al that to say that I do go as low as posible and still get a good vape because I will get more flavor like this. The higher I go, the less flavor and the more bland or burnt taste I get.

    Then again, if you havent noticed yet, your ohms tend to go UP the longer you use a coil, I am guessing from a build up of gunk on the coil itself. So then Its time to "bump it up one"...if needed.

    I wouldnt worry about the numbers or formulas, I would "taste" what your vape is telling you. I dont like my juice getting "discolored" from too much power going to the coil, so I tend to "back off" for the flavor and for the longevity of my coil.
     
  12. Snickerfritz

    Snickerfritz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2013
    USA
    I've usually got my Vamo in wattage mode. I seem to get a better vape that way, but I admit it could all me in my head. I've usually got mine set somewhere between 7 and 8 watts.
     
  13. bhswmc01

    bhswmc01 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I haven't played much with watts, I just leave it at 7 and adjust voltage as needed.
     
  14. WarHawk-AVG

    WarHawk-AVG Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2013
    H-Town
    Just need something to help ya with the math bro ;)

    [​IMG]

    P.S. For those folks that don't know the VV or VW stuff...and keep saying 7-8 watts...notice on this nice neat graph...the last green block before you get to the red block on almost ALL volts/ohms scales...7-8 watts is "red lining" (over-revving and engine/hot coil...get it heh) your MOD, not unsafe...but it can reduce the life of your coil...but hey it pushes your rig to give you the MAXIMUM output and performance

    On an analog tachometer gauge in a car...the above graph your vape mod would be doing this
    [​IMG]

    Cool huh
     
  15. InTheShade

    InTheShade Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2013
    South Texas
    Just add 2 to the resistance of the coil head and start there. So if the head is 2ohms, start at 4 volts and adjust up or down from there according to taste.
    I used to always use my Vamo in wattage mode, but I'd still adjust it up and down depending on the juice and my mood.

    There is no right or wrong number to vape at (although the above chart and the rule of 2 I just mentioned are good places to start) - it's all about what tastes good to you - and no math is necessary really.

    If it tastes burnt, lower it, if it's muted or no vapor, increase it.
     
  16. InTheShade

    InTheShade Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2013
    South Texas
  17. ScubaZan

    ScubaZan Full Member

    May 17, 2013
    BFE,Florida
    I'm using a Seigeli Zmax V3... Now I'm pretty good with numbers, and I understand the Voltage/ohms/wattage calculations, so the fact that in Wattage setting I still need to adjust up or down for the same juice in a different atty confuses the .... out of me!!!

    Has anyone else experienced this?
    Sometimes it's a pretty wide swing.
     
  18. VANA

    VANA Moved On

    Aug 13, 2013
    Fortladderdale, Fl
    I just go by taste and throat hit I find a happy medium for my preference. From tank to tank.
     
  19. Mike Sheda

    Mike Sheda Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 6, 2013
    Tampa, FL
    I like my Vamo V3... it goes to 11 :)
    (although I usually keep it between 5.5 and 7.5 depending on pg/vg ratio and flavor)
     
  20. State O' Flux

    State O' Flux Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2013
    Seattle
    So does my stereo. ;-)
     
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