The Wizard - Why not?

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Charged

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LOL, sorry OTD, not a video kind of guy. I explained the operation and all components of the device in detail on page 2 of the thread, page 1 photos speak for themselves. Not a lot of use out of it yet, I'm sure once a few other members try it out there will be some comments.

Can be had for less $ than my previous link at this place. :oops:
 

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OK you asked for it, I guess this has been explored in the past.
Video review

Edit: Sorry, it looks like the video was removed.
After reading that thread I have some comments regarding why the word harsh was used, and why I beleive the Wizard deserves a second look. Since this should probably not be here in the modders forum (since no mod was done) I'll start a new thread and explain my findings and observations in a few days.
 
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Hey, I'm back.
I've been so happy with the performance of this I decided to make a short clip of the WIZ in action.

There is a learning curve and it takes a bit to get propper operation which is why I think the previous attempts at it's use were failures. Also, consistency (thickness) of the liquid makes a huge difference in vapor production and flavor. Not sure if different types of mixes PG/VG/Vodka or what-not effects it but I'm guessing Crap in = Crap out (so to speak).

I would like to make a couple other comments while I'm here.
  1. My goal is to curb/eliminate my craving for analogs and to do it without emptying my bank account. I've spent a rediculous amount of $ on stuff that just works half way or somewhat and you just have to deal with it because... well.... that's the way it is.
  2. This is the 1st device I've seen that does not use filler, does not leak, does not overheat and works exactly the same every time I hit it. Granted it was not designed as a PV and yes it's not something I would haul outside of my home, but it does work well.
I will be interested to hear from others that decide to give it a go. IF you do here is a couple hints: Before you give the heater switch a squeeze press the large pump button a little 1st to put some liquid on the heater, then just hold the heater button until you start to see vapor and press the rest of the way down using a smooth motion. If you leave the heater on to long before pumping the liguid you will get a harsh burnt taste because the heater has no liquid on it. Good luck and enjoy.
 

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Anyone have a gauge on longevity for this thing yet? If it will hold up to a month or two of heavy abuse, then it might actually be worth it, considering how much juice it's gonna blow through.

In terms of modding it however, WOW. Having a straight up juice TANK... Desktop hookah, here I come. Wonder if my boss would flip out seeing something like that next to my printer... I already get odd looks with my passthrough.
 

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Anyone have a gauge on longevity for this thing yet? If it will hold up to a month or two of heavy abuse, then it might actually be worth it, considering how much juice it's gonna blow through.

In terms of modding it however, WOW. Having a straight up juice TANK... Desktop hookah, here I come. Wonder if my boss would flip out seeing something like that next to my printer... I already get odd looks with my passthrough.

I have no longevity data.
I'm not sure if serendipity has come in to play here or not.
I may have jumped the gun and got folks excited for no reason. I ordered 2 more of these devices for comparison and for sure there will be some modding because changing these batteries is a PITA (unless you have some really long fingernails that you don't mind breaking). As I stated at the start of this thread the plan is to use the vaporizing method/system and expand apon that.

So far so good with what I have. 3 days of continuous use and it's still working fine. I've been using dekang juice mostly. I tried some thicker liquid and got some sputtering/hot juice bouncing off the atomizer so that is why I mentioned consistency of liquid in my earlier post.

I'll have some updates at the end of the week.
 

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Hey Charged...can you tell or show in detail how exactly the atomizer is constructed ?

I can't get a good picture, here is a simplified drawing of it's construction.

simpledwgwizard.jpg

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i just wonder what the atomizer is made out of,and if it is safe to vape.

Our kids play with, and breath what this produces all day long. I don't know what do you think? :oops:
 

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Appreciate that Charged. Now I see why there is a separate chamber for the used fluid. I would imagine after one pass through the atomizer that most of the more volatile components of whatever is being "smoked" will be evaporated with the leftover condensing to the drain chamber. Have you tried vaping the "return" juice? Probably gets nasty after one or two runs. You might try getting a piece of silica glass wick or sleeving to stick down around the wire to keep the juice there longer...if possible. Then just trigger it enough to wet the wick.
 

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Thank you for the replies.
This device won't win a fashion contest but you will be pleasantly surprised at it's performance.

nicotime said:
Have you tried vaping the "return" juice?

To this point I have not had any return juice so I couldn't report on that. My guess would be if you do have return juice that it would not be worth running through again as it will not atomize well (probably why it is there to begin with).

I would like to hear from any of you that have received their FOG-.... (thanks SurfVortex).

I did remove the battery compartment today and my report regarding the components on the circuit board were incorrect. No voltage regulator and no FET.

There is what appears to be a microcontroller (one of those epoxy covered kind) on the bottom of the circuit board. Also 1 medium power NPN transistor and one PNP small signal transistor. I have a feeling they are using constant current control for running the atomizer coil. This would explain consistent heating of the coil regardless of battery voltage. The current remains constant until the batteries drop below a threshold at which point the vapor will just drop off quickly. I'll grab some measurements this coming weekend and see if I can create a schematic.
 

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I've come to the conclusion, based on the lack of interest and the general mentality of this forum that I will not spend any more of my time updating this thread. You can continue your drip/switch/dealwithit/movetoanotherdevice as long as you want. I will continue to look at new ideas and avenues on my own. You can PM me if you have any questions on this device. Thanks for viewing.

EDIT: Sorry about the rant. I guess I was mistaken. There does appear to be some interest (although not as much as it deserves). I'll continue looking at the inner workings and report back when I have some more information. Just a note: Since this was not designed as a "e-cig" I believe the thread is located in the correct sub-forum.
 
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