The Wizard - Why not?

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Scubabatdan

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Thanks Dan for all your help.

The weather is changing and so am I.
Cobwebs are being cleared and the covers are coming off my cherished shop tools. Lathe will get some oil and I'm getting CHARGED. Looking forward to some good progress.:D

Good then you will love this:

Soldered to the RCA jack:
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In Operation:
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Actual usage :) !!!!!!
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Had to tape the holes off some to get the air flow right. But it works :)
Need to figure out a constant delivery system like an electrical pump, like the miniture ones I have seen for fluid delivery rather than the squeeze pump.
My first atomizer that I made with out the help or parts from China! Sweet, could not have done it with out your ideas Charged!
Dan
 
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Good then you will love this:

Soldered to the RCA jack:

Actual usage :) !!!!!!
[]Pictures by scubabatdan - Photobucket

Had to tape the holes off some to get the air flow right. But it works :)
Need to figure out a constant delivery system like an electrical pump, like the miniture ones I have seen for fluid delivery rather than the squeeze pump.
My first atomizer that I made with out the help or parts from China! Sweet, could not have done it with out your ideas Charged!
Dan

That is a beutiful thing right there. Our dreams are finally entering fruition.

Now where's that damn tubing.:D

Nice work Dan. the exitement grows.

My plan is still to implement closed loop power control based on the atmel avr processor. This should reduce the need for such tight control on the liquid flow.
 

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That is a beutiful thing right there. Our dreams are finally entering fruition.

Now where's that damn tubing.:D

Nice work Dan. the exitement grows.

My plan is still to implement closed loop power control based on the atmel avr processor. This should reduce the need for such tight control on the liquid flow.

I hope you get your boxes today :) Had a set back with the Xacto cover, when I left the atty on to long it produces enough heat soften the xacto covers plastic. I also have the spitting issue which I tried to remedy with 3 strands of 36ga nichrome twisted together to make an insert. Seems to have minimized the spitting but I am still getting some. Looking at using a pyrex tubing that will fit over the atty, so it is still clear but not prone to heat issues. Also was looking at using a cartomizer silicon washer to in effect stop the liquid from pooling at the bottom and allow it to flow back into the quarts tube.

Excellent...now the big question...how long before the tube plugs. Have you guys tried to clean the tube yet?

No problems yet. Using nichrome filler wire seems to take up the space in the quartz tube and provides for easy cleaning. Just pull it out, wipe and reinsert. Takes 10 seconds to do.
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My Wizard is kinda crappin out.

It was great since I got it, but since I had been using it I thought I would do the overnight-vinegar-soak and clean it out. Now the vapor production is way down.

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Sorry to hear that ecitek. Unfortunately all Wizards are not created equal. I've had some clog within a couple weeks, others are still working fine. The Vinegar bath seems to help but sometimes not (I have noticed that adding some table salt to the vinegar seems to increase effectiveness of clog removal). Give the vinegar bath a try with some table salt mixed in. If it's working you will notice some black specs floating around and the vinegar will start becoming cloudy. Make sure you leave the plug out and get the vinegar level above the entry tube height. You may have to press the button to clear the air bubbles inside the fill chamber.
 

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Sorry ecitek, I see you are experiencing this after the soak.
This can happen if you do not leave the fill chamber open and allow the vinegar to fill above the tube entry port in the fill chamber. What happens is, as the clog breaks loose it tends to float upwards towards the fill chamber end of the tube. If it has no way to exit the tube into the fill chamber it will just float up so far and stay there. When you pull it out and turn it right side up, the clog particules stay inside the tube attached to the sides, they don't tend to run out with the vinegar leaving the tube. Then when you refill and try to vape the small clog particules just bunch up together and form more of a clog.

Hope that makes some sense.

The ultimate way of cleaning would to, somehow allow the cleaning solution to be forced back through the tube the opposit way it would normally flow.

I've thought about this but have not tried it. You could de-solder the top electrical wire connected to the glass tube and slide some flexible tubing over the wire and down over the glass & metal tube. Then force vinegar through the tube the opposite direction to flush it out. Just a thought.
 

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Based on the data I've collected and the Wizard design, I'm officially claming defeat on using the Wizard as a vaping device in stock form.
I made this same claim a while back but thought I may be able to find a way to rectify the design flaws and fix the clog issue. Despite my best efforts it just can't be done with what I've tried to date. I plan to contact the designers of the Wizard to tell them my findings.

I'm starting to wonder if the design flaws are intentional to keep the revenue stream coming in.

We'll see how it all pans out.... but in the mean time I still think the concept is sound and may lead us all to the ultimate vape.:)

I will continue on improving the original Wizard design and see what happens.

My apology to those that may have purchased and expected vapor heaven based on my claims.:(
 
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Based on the data I've collected and the Wizard design, I'm officially claming defeat on using the Wizard as a vaping device in stock form.
I made this same claim a while back but thought I may be able to find a way to rectify the design flaws and fix the clog issue. Despite my best efforts it just can't be done with what I've tried to date. I plan to contact the designers of the Wizard to tell them my findings.

I'm starting to wonder if the design flaws are intentional to keep the revenue stream coming in.

We'll see how it all pans out.... but in the mean time I still think the concept is sound and may lead us all to the ultimate vape.:)

I will continue on improving the original Wizard design and see what happens.

My apology to those that may have purchased and expected vapor heaven based on my claims.:(

No worries, it was great while it lasted. I think the .5mm ID quart tubing is working out great, I have since used 4 strands of 36ga wire twisted together to fill the exhaust end of the tube. This minimizes spitting and maximizes vapor production. The .5mm is a tad fragile on the side to side movment and shorter pieces far better than the longer ones do. More to follow.
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Here is the more :)

All Pyrex atty, I am using 8mm ID pyrex tubing for the outer shell. Works for reusing a 901 atty blank. Also it helps with the heat issue. The cartomizer silicon o-ring worked perfect for keeping the sippint fluid from running back onto the heating element. I have sill yet to test this design, but it looks good!

Dan
 

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Here is the more :)

All Pyrex atty, I am using 8mm ID pyrex tubing for the outer shell. Works for reusing a 901 atty blank. Also it helps with the heat issue. The cartomizer silicon o-ring worked perfect for keeping the sippint fluid from running back onto the heating element. I have sill yet to test this design, but it looks good!

Dan


A door is closed, and a window opens... You should feel GREAT Charged! And Dan - WOW - THAT IS EXCELLENT!
 

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Here is the more :)

All Pyrex atty, I am using 8mm ID pyrex tubing for the outer shell. Works for reusing a 901 atty blank. Also it helps with the heat issue. The cartomizer silicon o-ring worked perfect for keeping the sippint fluid from running back onto the heating element. I have sill yet to test this design, but it looks good!

Dan

That's a work of art Dan. Love the tubing support at the glass exit and circle loop for easy wetting wire removal. I can't wait to see your test results.

I'll be rigging mine up this weekend if the o'le lady stays away.:D
 
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