The Wizard - Why not?

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Charged

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Sorry didn't get to do any more tests today. Football takes priority LOL. (OT, damn Saints, looks like I'll be up all night) :). Won't be until tomorrow night to get some more tests.

Power vaping all day on 1 fill, really nice consistent hits, I'm still blown away by the performance of this toy.

Wish the TI 4050C step-up regulator could do more than 12W, it would be nice to try some higher voltages to the atty on this thing.
 

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few questions

is it a juice hog?
is it good for a home use only PV
is it worth the money?
how long will it last if I fill it with juice

I am extremely interested in getting one of these thanks to this thread

All of your questions have been addressed in the thread but I will summarize:
1. Juice Hog? Only if you are.
2. Home use only. Probably, although I have one on my desk at work.
3. Worth the money? That's subjective to the user but I feel yes.
4. How long? Lasts me a couple days filled with 5ml (see answer #1).

I would suggest you wait to get some opinions from others before making the huge investment.:)

Just a note: If your apprehensive about putting your mouth on the large opening these miniature funnels fit perfectly on the end of this device.
 
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Got mine today , WOW what a hit !!! , I have tried plugging the hole in the side to mellow it out some ( HUGE HIT ! ) so I just need to develop a good method like CHarged did ( hell maybe I 'll try his LOL )

:lol: Ha, work with it for a while and you'll get it right.
You'll know it's right when it PURRRRrrrrrrrrs like a kitten. :D
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Classic. Just ordered one. I also have enough mediocre Ruyan/Dekang stock that I don't mind using it to try something like this out. From what you've said it won't be a waste of juice anyway. Should be here in about a week, I'll let you know how it goes. I won't have the tech savy to provide details on the circuit board, but I'll know if I like it.
 

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I might have to try this, if I can get over how it looks. Please tell me I'm not the only one who pictures someone with their lips wrapped around this, holding it one hand underneath and one around the, er, shaft.... It's just not the best design for a kids toy is it. maybe I can get a hookah hose, that definitely would look better.
 

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Any tips Charged ?? please list them for all again if you would

Yes I have a few tips.
I would suggest you use 1.2V recharcheable batteries to power this fella.
  1. When you receive the WIZ rinse the fill side with some water. To remove all of the water tilt the open side toward the sink and press the large button (not the small heater button). This will push air into the fill chamber and blow the water out. I use a pipette or syringe to remove any excess liquid. It looks like they test these so there is sometimes liquid in the fill chamber
  2. Put your liquid of choice in the fill chamber. DO NOT USE LIQUID YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH. This is very important as it will clog the glass atomizer tube pretty quick. The cool part of this device is that you can see atomization occuring through the clear plastic. You'll know right away if your juice is any good as it will develope a very fine thick fog and the sound will be a slight purrrr like a kitten. If it sputters/makes major popping sounds/spits juice out of the exit tube then the juice is not quite right. You can add some vodka or distilled water to get the juice worthy, or suck the juice out and try something else.
  3. Before attempting the 1st vape, press the heater button until the LED 1st lights and watch for some vapor to rise. Then slowly press the plunger down and watch the vapor exit from the tube for about 5 seconds. This is pretty much a 1st time primer of the device. Once you do this your good to go. This step just assures the tube is clear of anything left over from the factory testing.
  4. Place the heater/pump button towards you. with you mouth kissing the exit tube (not around it) Press the heater button when you start to see vapor slowly press the button down slowly and breath in. You'll now when to stop after a couple tries.
  5. Enjoy
Hope that helps.
I should point out that I've gone through 3 of these things in a little over a week. All of the problems were caused by me. 1st one died after I broke the glass tube to the atomizer trying to get a scope probe connected to it. Second one lost vapor production because I ran liquid (unknowingly) that was not clear through it and clogged the glass atomizer tube. 3rd one is still working OK but has lost some vapor production due to my messing around with it (tilted the second atomizer and extended the air gap). I'm still quite happy with number 3. I have number 4 through 9 on the way for some major modding attempts.
 

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Charged...have disassembled the busted ones to get any close-up pics of the atty tube and heater wire in it from your ? What is the dimensions of the glass tubes OD & ID? I am assuming that the straight wire preheats the juice to bubble it then the wound wire vaporizes it. Do you think the air gap is for air to hit the coil and make it hotter than the straight wire or just for air flow to let the vapor rise? I am working on building a wick-less atty with Pyrex tube so this would be great scaled down I think...may have to break down and buy one for R&D.
 

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Charged...have disassembled the busted ones to get any close-up pics of the atty tube and heater wire in it from your ? What is the dimensions of the glass tubes OD & ID? I am assuming that the straight wire preheats the juice to bubble it then the wound wire vaporizes it. Do you think the air gap is for air to hit the coil and make it hotter than the straight wire or just for air flow to let the vapor rise? I am working on building a wick-less atty with Pyrex tube so this would be great scaled down I think...may have to break down and buy one for R&D.

Will do nic, I've been watching the glass atomizer thread for a while. I've been planning to perform surgery, just trying to come up with a good method with minimal destruction. Probably dremel and cutoff wheel will be the best bet since the entire assembly is glued and screwed. I'll give it a go when I get home from work tonight and post some pics.

You are correct on the operation. You can see the liquid bubble and partially atomize in the 1st tube, it then expands and exits at the air gap while flowing by the second coiled heater and turning to a very fine fog.
 
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Cut open the WIZ that clogged up on me and quit producing vapor.
After looking at this I can see why.

The second coil (kinda hanging out in the air) is encased in a glass tube (yes it is a glass tube all gunked up) is actually cradled inside the 1st larger glass tube with one side of the large tube open to the air. The larger glass tube is the one with the straight piece of nichrome wire inside that travels down inside and connects to the hollow metal tube supplying the pressurized liquid.

Small coiled atomizer tube is 0.84mm OD by 5.0mm long.
Large glass tube is 1.2mm OD and the length with the nichrome inside is 7.0mm (extra cradle length not included here).

atomizerclose1.jpg


By the way nic, my avatar is GM superchaged 3800 V6 (L32).
 

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Boy-Howdy what a PV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Gigantic hit, excellent flavor!!!!!!:shock: All the things Charged said in the tips post I found out today and last night on my own experimentation.(Hit in the face w/ molten,flying globs of VG,etc.)
I swear I ran the thing for 1/2 hour solid last night and 2hrs solid today . Couldn't stop messing with it. Really fun! Thought I broke it several times....But it came back to life! When the batt.s finally died ( after 2 1/2hrs of almost uninterupted use) I switched over to some non-rechargeables and the vapor was even bigger at 9v. Might have to mod so that an extra rechargeable can go in, total of 7...
Will report more later!
Thanks, Again Charged!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Man that looks like a heavy duty lead wire unless it just looks that way in the pic. How is the metal tube and glass tube joined, with a ceramic mortar? And for that matter, how is the small glass tube suspended over the large one. Sorry about all the ???...last ones...promise...sorta :oops: ...its just intriguing. Appreciate the help Charged.
 

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Man that looks like a heavy duty lead wire unless it just looks that way in the pic. How is the metal tube and glass tube joined, with a ceramic mortar? And for that matter, how is the small glass tube suspended over the large one. Sorry about all the ???...last ones...promise...sorta :oops: ...its just intriguing. Appreciate the help Charged.

Actually nic you are correct and I was obviously mistaken. I tried to pull the glass assembly out of the metal tube and it broke off.

There is no pre-heater in the large glass tube. It just looked that way when the liquid was moving up the tube. The feed wire (connected to the nichrome atomizer) is heated by the coiled atomizer and acts as a pre-heater. You can see the liquid bubble up and start atomizing there before it hits the atomizer. The glass covered atomizer is held in place by the lead wire running through the large glass tube and connected inside the metal tube to it's side wall.

Also... The large glass tube seems to just sit inside the metal tube being held at it's position by the lead wire connected to the metal tube side wall.

Here is a close up of the assembly pulled out of the metal tube.
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