Ya I do feel I need to stick with my DIY ejuices and stay away from any pre made mixes. Just trying to figure out what I'm going to do with 80 $ of Dekang juices.
Things are feeling heavy
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Who says it's bad to vape it? Dekang is certainly far from crap and us made is an actual lab by actual chemists unlike in north America where it's all kitchen mixers. Not that I have a problem with that.
I really believe you need to look at the allergy angle. You could very well be allergic to PG which is the dominant ratio in all Dekang juices.
You can't blame the juice. Plenty of people have been vaping Dekang for years without issue and as I said they have some of the best facilities and safety practices you will find in the industry.
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I think you're assuming it's the juice but should be assuming it's you. LOL.
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It's very obvious your not reading this hole thread. I do suggest you do. There is a comment your missing.
And when It comes to vapping a juice you should always be careful and keep in mind what is in it.
How long have you been vaping? Curious because i was experiencing the same thing plus shortness of breath when I first started. Then I did some research and saw that hundreds of people have that experience when they quit smoking, whether they vape or not (most didn't vape).
You could verify your account and try to sell those juices on the classified, maybe with full disclosure that you're having problems with them. I would guess it's just a sensitivity you're having with those particular juices. I highly doubt the Dekang juices are cut or something nasty is being added, because they are relatively cheap to start as far as juice goes.
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I have read the entire thread. Multiple times. Thanks though.
Buying juice you don't like or that doesn't agree with you is far more common than buying juice that you love. It's all entirely subjective so you won't know if you'll like it until you've tried it. Sorry, but that's just the way Vaping goes.
As chagrin said, become verified and sell or trade the juices. I sell/trade at least 500ml every couple of months because I try so much juice and as I said we're bound to not like the majority of it.
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A similar situation has popped up with someone I brought over from the dark side. He says he that when he capes a 100% VG he get a feeling of pressure on his chest. Unfortunately he goes outside to have a smoke and feels better. When he tried a 50/50 VG/PG mix he felt ok but said that he hadn't vaped a lot of it.
I'm thinking that he may have an intolerance to 100% VG mix.
I'm thinking that he may have an intolerance to 100% VG mix.
Same here.
It's definitely scary when you get that feeling. We've all turned to vaping as a means to get away from the analogues and when you get the heavy chest syndrome it's very freaky.
I've experienced it in my early days of vaping and thought that I was making a mistake. Persistent as I am however I struck with it and, as I had begun DIY,ing I experimented with VG/PG ratios to see if I could track down a cause. The Doctor in an earlier post had it right when he pointed out the quickest way to determine if you are having an allergic reaction ... the skin test. My results were that I wasn't allergic to either the VG or PG. Environment (relative humidity) is the big factor that I've found for "heavy chest" ... PG/VG ratios the other factor and one other obvious factor is vaping quantity. The morning after a vape meet (
) I always feel heavy chested.The best advise here though is "listen to your body" and if you really are scared about it .... go to the emerg! When you tell them that you feel a heavy chest you get express service ..... chances are you'll be sent home and told to lay off the 100% VG for a while.
I wonder if the Medical personnel in emerge are sufficiently aware to make that call that vaping is better than the alternative or would stand as doctor gods and tell the patient to immediately cease and desist from Vaping?"
I would say with great certainty that it's the latter. Doctors are generally pretty ignorant IMO. No offense to any doctors here LOL
My Doctor has seen me three times since I started vaping and gives me the two thumbs up every time .... but reminds me that nicotine is still not good for your heart .... just like too much coffee isn't good for your heart. Come to think of it, standing in front of a moving bus isn't good for you either.
Everything in moderation! Except the bus thing ....
Everything in moderation! Except the bus thing ....
This is harm reduction. I wonder people can't understand that concept. Don't they have safe injection sites for junkies?
Vancouver had the first legal one in North America. I think there are far too many misconceptions with people who don't vape; firstly they don't understand it and secondly they think that we don't either.
The facilities mean very little when the actual chemicals they are using are not up to north American standards. For instance, is dekang PG and VG usp? Is their nicotine extract monitored for other chemicals (ie: pesticide/herbicide/fungicide residuals)? How long do they store their materials before use? Etc, etc. These are potentials we will never know for sure, and it's dubious as to whether or not dekang (or related Chinese manufacturers) even know themselves. I know for a fact that dekang still uses diacetyl in some juices... So that in and of itself throws up warning flags for me.
I'm not demonizing dekang, or even Chinese producers... I am however wary of Chinese products of this nature just because of precedents set in the past, with other products.
Saying people have been vaping it for years with no ill effect is pointless... Smokers use that line all the time.
Having said all that, I have and occasionally vape some dekang juice. Their version of 555 is what got me off of analogs, and is still the best version of that flavor I've tried to date, and their price point is fantastic. I will vape dekang and other Chinese juice... But I'm aware of the potential hazards of doing so, which is what this post is all about. It's kind of like the whole gmo food thing, will I still buy gmo foods? Yes, but out irritates and angers me that they aren't required to label them as such... I don't like the idea of being uninformed or a Guinea pig.
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Ignorance. People don't understand harm reduction, period. Has nothing to do with e-cigs, it's just the principle of harm reduction. There is only one safe-injection site, I think what you're thinking of is needle exchanges. Anyway, it all stems from ignorance.
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