Think I finally got the DIY flavoring right

[twistedtimes]

Here is what I have discovered for everyone. The secret to the flavoring is not the steeping for weeks on end, but the way you flavor it. So how does this work? Well if you go to Perfumers Apprentice for example you will notice by each one of the flavoring they post whether it mixes well with alcohol or water. So what I did is instead of mixing everything all together at once and then letting it steep for 2 weeks. I took a couple of samples of flavors (Butterscotch and Double Chocolate) and just mixed those with the online calculator straight into the vodka I had and let the vodka tincture steep overnight covered. This allowed the vodka to absorb all of the flavoring. 24 hours later I then just added the vodka tincture to the VG NIC mix and done.

I got this idea from bar tending. This is how you infuse vodkas with flavorings and this is how vodka vendors flavor their vodkas.

You also do this with the water type flavors as well. You just let the water type flavors steep overnight in distilled water and let the water absorb the flavor.


It actually works and gives you a rounded flavor.

I just thought I would share and I believe this is how the Pros are doing it and selling it.

 

[Cookster]

Could you elaborate, please? How much flavoring in vodka? What percentage? I usually do my mixes at 15-20% flavoring.

Thanks

 

[zoiDman]

My Secrete is to add a Couple of Drops of Water to ever ml of DIY I makes.

Seems to let the flavors "Happen" better then in my DIY's without Water.

 

[graffinfected]

Here is what I have discovered for everyone. The secret to the flavoring is not the steeping for weeks on end, but the way you flavor it. So how does this work? Well if you go to Perfumers Apprentice for example you will notice by each one of the flavoring they post whether it mixes well with alcohol or water. So what I did is instead of mixing everything all together at once and then letting it steep for 2 weeks. I took a couple of samples of flavors (Butterscotch and Double Chocolate) and just mixed those with the online calculator straight into the vodka I had and let the vodka tincture steep overnight covered. This allowed the vodka to absorb all of the flavoring. 24 hours later I then just added the vodka tincture to the VG NIC mix and done.

I got this idea from bar tending. This is how you infuse vodkas with flavorings and this is how vodka vendors flavor their vodkas.

You also do this with the water type flavors as well. You just let the water type flavors steep overnight in distilled water and let the water absorb the flavor.


It actually works and gives you a rounded flavor.

I just thought I would share and I believe this is how the Pros are doing it and selling it.

this sounds good, please, let us know what vodka your using.. how much of it.. how does the calculator come into play???


why dont you give us a step by step?? or maybe tell us what you do with the calculator... for example.. when you use the calculator, what do you do about the pg/vg/nic part? i dont get exactly what your doing... and i wanna try this.

 

[twistedtimes]

this sounds good, please, let us know what vodka your using.. how much of it.. how does the calculator come into play???


why dont you give us a step by step?? or maybe tell us what you do with the calculator... for example.. when you use the calculator, what do you do about the pg/vg/nic part? i dont get exactly what your doing... and i wanna try this.

Sure....

Let's say I was going to make a butterscoth flavor from TPA.

I would use a online calculator like this one: eJuice Recipe Calculator

Let's say I was going to make a 10 ML batch of the butterscotch. I would do the calculation as follows:

based on 15% vodka used

VG NIX mix 5.0 ML
VG NON-NIC 1.5 ML
1.5 ML Vodka
2.0 ML flavoring

Now, I would just mix the flavoring (2.0 ML) and the Vodka(1.5 ML) and let that sit overnight in a shot glass, covered with plastic wrap. This will infuse the Vodka with the flavor.

Then after 12 to 24 hours I would then just dump the vodka tincture in the above VG NIC and non NIC mix with the calculator and shake it up. You can add you sweetner at this time. You should be good to go now. Obviously with infusing Vodka the longer you would let Vodka infuse the more pungent it would get. This is how bars do it all the time, when they make those delicious vodka drinks.

This is a two step process, but cuts down the time to do the flavoring to the mix, it worked for me.

On a side note I can't take PG, but this should work the same.

Hope this helps!

 

[Racehorse]

twistedtimes, you are correct, this is exactly how the liquor industry mixes flavored vodka.

Basically, by the time YOU add the *flavoring*, instead of being just flavoring out of the flavoring bottle, you are adding flavoring that is already both dissolved and steeped, in it's applicable alcohol or water solution, i.e. water for the water soluble ones, alcohol for the non water soluble ones.

I don't DIY but have been making my own vanilla extract for baking, and infused vodkas for Christmas presents for years, whcih my friends use for apple martinis, pear martinis, etc. I even did some Jalapeno vodka last year. Jolly Ranchers is good, too.

Personally, I would strain it before using for purity, and steep the softer flavors like apple for longer.

I'm kind of a homesteader and get Mother Earth News so over the years you learn a lot of neat life and survival skills.

 

[Cookster]

Got the idea, makes sense, sounds like a lot of vodka, though. So, if I'm using Capellas, which states they are water soluble, I would just use distilled water in place of the vodka, correct? My usual mix is 80/20 PG/VG, wouldn't the water thin it out too much?

 

[mudhill]

Sure....

Let's say I was going to make a butterscoth flavor from TPA.

I would use a online calculator like this one: eJuice Recipe Calculator

Let's say I was going to make a 10 ML batch of the butterscotch. I would do the calculation as follows:

based on 15% vodka used

VG NIX mix 5.0 ML
VG NON-NIC 1.5 ML
1.5 ML Vodka
2.0 ML flavoring

Now, I would just mix the flavoring (2.0 ML) and the Vodka(1.5 ML) and let that sit overnight in a shot glass, covered with plastic wrap. This will infuse the Vodka with the flavor.

Then after 12 to 24 hours I would then just dump the vodka tincture in the above VG NIC and non NIC mix with the calculator and shake it up. You can add you sweetner at this time. You should be good to go now. Obviously with infusing Vodka the longer you would let Vodka infuse the more pungent it would get. This is how bars do it all the time, when they make those delicious vodka drinks.

This is a two step process, but cuts down the time to do the flavoring to the mix, it worked for me.

On a side note I can't take PG, but this should work the same.

Hope this helps!

i guess i am dense....this just went over my head...am i going to have a base ? or am i going to have a finished product ?

 

[Cookster]

A finished product...2ml of flavor that has been mixed with 1.5ml of water/vodka, plus 6.5mls of your preferred nic/pg/vg mix, totaling 10mls.

 

[Levitas]

i guess i am dense....this just went over my head...am i going to have a base ? or am i going to have a finished product ?

He's saying to use the calculator to figure out the whole of the recipe:

Mixture A
5ml Nic
1.5 no nic

Mix those two together. Then:

Mixture B
1.5 vodka
2.0 flavor

Mix these two together, and put in a covered container for 24-48 hours. Then, mix the two mixtures together (A and B).

 

[mudhill]

thanks folks....i think i have it now......LOL

 

[graffinfected]

Sure....

Let's say I was going to make a butterscoth flavor from TPA.

I would use a online calculator like this one: eJuice Recipe Calculator

Let's say I was going to make a 10 ML batch of the butterscotch. I would do the calculation as follows:

based on 15% vodka used

VG NIX mix 5.0 ML
VG NON-NIC 1.5 ML
1.5 ML Vodka
2.0 ML flavoring

Now, I would just mix the flavoring (2.0 ML) and the Vodka(1.5 ML) and let that sit overnight in a shot glass, covered with plastic wrap. This will infuse the Vodka with the flavor.

Then after 12 to 24 hours I would then just dump the vodka tincture in the above VG NIC and non NIC mix with the calculator and shake it up. You can add you sweetner at this time. You should be good to go now. Obviously with infusing Vodka the longer you would let Vodka infuse the more pungent it would get. This is how bars do it all the time, when they make those delicious vodka drinks.

This is a two step process, but cuts down the time to do the flavoring to the mix, it worked for me.

On a side note I can't take PG, but this should work the same.

Hope this helps!

ok but what vodka should i use?? everclear ? i never even heard of everclear before i started to DIY.. whats the best vodka to use?

 

[dsy5]

ok but what vodka should i use?? everclear ? i never even heard of everclear before i started to DIY.. whats the best vodka to use?

Everclear is not vodka - it is Pure Grain Alcohol (PGA). High potency stuff (198 proof!) But it is used similarly in recipes, so yeah go ahead and use it (if your state hasn't banned, it like mine)

 

[twistedtimes]

ok but what vodka should i use?? everclear ? i never even heard of everclear before i started to DIY.. whats the best vodka to use?

I am just using Smirnoff and Grey Goose. Nothing special is needed with grain alcohol. I suppose you could use everclear, but that might be overkill...

I even use malibu rum with my pina colada mix....

 

[damthisisfun]

Maybe the trick I needed to make my nasty DIY vapeable...........thanks - will give it a "shot" - lol

 

[graffinfected]

Oh man i feel like an idiot, sorry i had no idea that Everclear wasent vodka... i dont drink... so i dont know brand names and stuff..

but ok.. ill pick up a bottle of distilled and smirnoff and see wassup... i hope this works for me!!! i need something to make my flavors hit me harder because i have read and tried everything but the flavors dont pop enough for my tastebuds.

 

[dsy5]

Oh man i feel like an idiot, sorry i had no idea that Everclear wasent vodka... i dont drink... so i dont know brand names and stuff..

No need to be ashamed, that's why we ask questions here! Remember, there are no stupid questions - just stupid answers! Seriously, though, the only stupid questions are the ones we don't ask.

I don't drink anymore, either, but I was a pro in the old days!

 

[Jellyfish]

No need to be ashamed, that's why we ask questions here! Remember, there are no stupid questions - just stupid answers! Seriously, though, the only stupid questions are the ones we don't ask.

I'm new at DIY and am working my way through things and have made a few simple mixes that turned out well. But I'm looking to 'expand', so thanks for that. Now my question:

Twisted's alcohol flavoring example uses an 80% base with a 20% flavoring component. The 15% vodka is substituted in the base to maintain the 80%.

First, does vodka change the flavoring of the mix at all...or is it completely an inert as far as flavor goes (like water)? And second, why 15% vodka? Would a little more or a little less make any difference?

Thanks!

 

[graffinfected]

I'm new at DIY and am working my way through things and have made a few simple mixes that turned out well. But I'm looking to 'expand', so thanks for that. Now my question:

Twisted's alcohol flavoring example uses an 80% base with a 20% flavoring component. The 15% vodka is substituted in the base to maintain the 80%.

First, does vodka change the flavoring of the mix at all...or is it completely an inert as far as flavor goes (like water)? And second, why 15% vodka? Would a little more or a little less make any difference?

Thanks!

that is a damn good question.

im actually going to try this today, i bought a small bottle of smirnoff... lets see wassup with some alc based tobaccy.

 

[DigiManTX]

i guess that would be my question as well... why the 15% vodka/water... and does that count as part of the pg, vg, or neither? i would think it would "water" it down quite a bit...