Think I'm Ready To Buy - I want the Ego Twist!

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mostapha

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Can you expand on what you said about needing a 3ohm cart to experience the full voltage range please?

Ohm's law.

Someone please correct me if I get the details (of the twist) wrong, but this is the general idea.

Ohm's law describes how electrical potential, current, resistance, and power relate.

Electrical Potential (AKA voltage) is measured in Volts (V) and symbolized by V.
Current (aka amperage) is measured in Amperes (A) and symbolized by I.
Resistance is measured in Ohms (greek letter omega, Ω) and symbolized by R.
Power (aka wattage) is measured in Watts (W) and symbolized by P.

There are only 2 equations that matter:

V = I * R
P = I * V

Plus some algebra.

So, the Twist works with V = 3.2 to 4.8. Say it's set to 4.8 V and you're using a 1.5 Ω cartomizer/attomizer/whatever. That means that the carto would be drawing 3.2 A of current……which the twist can't do.

As a safety precaution, it's limited to 2.5A maximum current and something happens to restrict it to that so there's no chance of an over-current fault that might cause the battery to overload/vent/explode.

So, the most you can draw from a 1.5 Ω carto/atty/whatever is V = 2.5 * 1.5 = 3.75 V. And there's no reason to set it higher.

Now, if you really wanted to run your 1.5 Ω carto at 4.8 V, you're getting P = I * V = (V/R) * V = V^2 / R = 15.4 W. That's pretty ridiculous. 10W is where the Kick tops out, so let's use that as an example instead. Working backwards to get the current we need…

P = I * V = I^2 * R

I = (P/R)^(1/2) = sqrt(10/3) = sqrt ( 3.1 ) = 1.76 A

Then, V = I * R = 1.76 * 3 = 5.3.

Well……okay, not quite, because the twist tops out at 4.8. But it's under the current limit and the Twist can actually get pretty close. So what's the most power it can do with different atomizers?

By my calculations, it looks like right around 2.2 Ω is perfect. You can go up to about 10.4 W (4.8 V @ 2.1 A) if it'll actually give you all the voltage (which it won't…but it's close…ish). That's nothing to sneeze at. Everything else has a lower max wattage either because the current limiter kicks in (seems to be around 2.1 A based on pbusardo's nifty chart, not 2.5 A like I assumed) or because the battery can't do a higher voltage.

So…unless I'm missing something, 3.0 Ω is too high…2.2 is about right. And the numbers I'm seeing roughly correlate to what I've been experiencing with the thing……if you assume that the markings on the dial are more like guidelines than actual markings.

Man…that took a while. If only I could find more 2.2 Ω attys. I might end up looking towards something with a higher current limit instead of buying another……but it's not like the thing is bad. It just doesn't like really LR.
 

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it's fine ...just don't go past 4 volts....leave at it's default setting the twist...and you'll a..o..k..bro..
Did u check out the links i sent???
read the reviews on that clearomizer from vapingzone i sent...it's truly the best dam thing out there to vape with...nothing touches it....maybe a low res 306 atomizer....same exact flavor..


Hey dude, I read your post which is very full of awesome information. I think I'm probably going to end up with two Twists, but isn't the 1.5 ohm not really suitable for a Twist?
 

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NObody sells a twist kit yet bro..only the batteries i found out after reading your post...i went searching..nothing.

So get the choice1 i gave u...you'll love those mega cartomizers..dual coils 1.5 ohms.
Then get yourself a twist battery, so you can use it with an atomizer...or single coil cartomizer in a tank.

If you want to see me w/my mod (infinity pro) vaping with a boge 1.7 ohm cartomizer w/a tank, tell me anybody blows more vapor then me in that video..i've yet to see anyone blow clouds like that.
Check it out on youtube here:

If theres anything u need to learn on youtube also check out grimmgreen, and pbusardo....great reviews on juice, devices, and accessories..i.e cartomizers, atomizers, mods..etc...ok.

so go to vapingzone and get that kit bro! then buy a twist battery later.....get the clearomizers from vapingzone i linked in previous post...and you won't even need the twist for a long while.

let me know what u do k.

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SpringzVz: the link takes me to their frontpage. If you don't mind me asking, what was the price for the kit?

I think I've decided that the Twist is the way to go, simply because of simple battery replacement and the availability of compatible parts.

Anybody know of any other vendors that got a good deal on these? I think I'm going to start buying stuff in parts, considering kits are kind of hard to come by and for some reason, they only stock kits that offer a 1x 1000 mAh Twist with a 1x 650 mAh Twist, I'd rather have both at 1000 mAh.
 

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it's fine ...just don't go past 4 volts....leave at it's default setting the twist...and you'll a..o..k..bro..

What's the point of a variable voltage device if you can't use the variable voltage feature?

Also, the 4V you mentioned is already over the current limit on the Twist. And the Twist doesn't have a default. I think the knob on mine came set around 4.7.

I understand if you like those clearos. They're probably very good. But the twist does not seem like the right device for them.
 

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Bro, i use it on my ego.... 3.7 volts..and the only reason i'm saying u can us it on a twist, is because it's better vape then anything else you can buy....so what if u don't go higher then the default..if the default vapes better then going up to 4.8 volts???? see what i mean?
watch me with my ipro and a single coil carto in a 3ml tank. that's the kind of vapor u will get at 3.7 volts on your twist.....with that clearo i mentioned.
youtube

And then you can switch to whatever else you want to and crank it up.... but u won't want to use anything else.......buy a regular ego battery....hell i have 4 , and a mod...i hate to be without backups, for my backups..lol...ok.



What's the point of a variable voltage device if you can't use the variable voltage feature?

Also, the 4V you mentioned is already over the current limit on the Twist. And the Twist doesn't have a default. I think the knob on mine came set around 4.7.

I understand if you like those clearos. They're probably very good. But the twist does not seem like the right device for them.
 

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What am I looking for in that video?

Do you use it on a Twist? I'm not sure how the normal eGos work (because I don't care) but the Twist will run that thing at 3.15 V, not 3.7……because that hits the current limit that seems to come out of what voltages reviewers get out of it.

I might have to give one a try at some point. But I'll do it after I buy a mod that has a higher current limit……and not waste it on a Twist that's going to vape at 3.15 volts regardless of where the VV battery is set.
 

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What am I looking for in that video?

Do you use it on a Twist? I'm not sure how the normal eGos work (because I don't care) but the Twist will run that thing at 3.15 V, not 3.7……because that hits the current limit that seems to come out of what voltages reviewers get out of it.

I might have to give one a try at some point. But I'll do it after I buy a mod that has a higher current limit……and not waste it on a Twist that's going to vape at 3.15 volts regardless of where the VV battery is set.

The Twist will operate a 1.7ohm device up to 4.2 volts before it hits the 2.5 amp limit, but I agree, why would you use a 1.7 ohm device on a VV.
 

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hey frog, I did indeed check out the links. There are two places I think, that sell a twist kit, but they don't sell twin twist kits, instead they sell the 650 + 1000 mAh twist kit. Haven't made my purchase yet, still deciding.

well, like i said, get the kit mainly for the battery charger, and the bats (batteries).
then get a Low res 306 atomizer with 306 drip tip.....flavor is off the chain when vaping with that setup.
And get that clearomizer from vapingzone...you won't have to drip, but it will taste like you are.
Oh, you'll need a syringe...everyone involved in vaping, needs a syringe to fill those things up, cartomizers..clearomizers..etc. ok.
And get it with .20 gauge needle allright!
 

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well, what your looking for in video is probably what you'll want to get then...the infinity pro..or buzzpro from notcigs.com.
I'm just showing you the power of that thing....did you see how much vapor i got from just a 1.7 ohm single coil cartomizer?
Nobody blows more vapor anywhere online......go and find somebody who does.....i've not seen it yet....
Ipro with a tank and a single coil boge pre-punched cartomizer...or smok tech single coil pre-punched carto..ok.
(pre-punched) means they put a tiny hole in the cartomizer, so while you vape, it's always wet with the ejuice...no nasty burn taste ever again with a tank and carto ...that's what i have on my Infinity pro in that vid.

Did yo ulike the plumes of vapor you saw? hehe



What am I looking for in that video?

Do you use it on a Twist? I'm not sure how the normal eGos work (because I don't care) but the Twist will run that thing at 3.15 V, not 3.7……because that hits the current limit that seems to come out of what voltages reviewers get out of it.

I might have to give one a try at some point. But I'll do it after I buy a mod that has a higher current limit……and not waste it on a Twist that's going to vape at 3.15 volts regardless of where the VV battery is set.
 

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I haven't measured myself, but based on the numbers grimmgreen and pbusardo were showing for the twist, it looks like the limit is closer to 2.1 than 2.5 A, which makes a difference.

As for those plumes of smoke…seems completely normal to me. How much smoke shows up on video has more to do with lighting than hardware anyway.

Almost everything I've used creates more vapor than a normal filtered cigarette…it's closer to what you get out of unfiltered cigarettes and rivals most pipes.
 

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I haven't measured myself, but based on the numbers grimmgreen and pbusardo were showing for the twist, it looks like the limit is closer to 2.1 than 2.5 A, which makes a difference.

As for those plumes of smoke…seems completely normal to me. How much smoke shows up on video has more to do with lighting than hardware anyway.

Almost everything I've used creates more vapor than a normal filtered cigarette…it's closer to what you get out of unfiltered cigarettes and rivals most pipes.

The numbers they were using were mainly derived from the useless chart that Joye provided to show the battery voltage available (not the boosted voltage) when connected to their test load. I have also heard that the limit may be actually closer to 3.5A.

I personally don't care what the limit is. I use 2.4ish ohms on mine and Vape Happily away!
 

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The numbers they were using were mainly derived from the useless chart that Joye provided to show the battery voltage available (not the boosted voltage) when connected to their test load. I have also heard that the limit may be actually closer to 3.5A.

That would be really significant news if true! Anecdotally, I never got the sense from using a twist that it was putting out anywhere near this. But hey, it would definitely make it the "game changer" we hear so much!
 

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