Thinking higher ohms are my friend

[Grimmda]

I have been vaping since the first if the year. So I am no experienced veteran but I have done a fair amount of research and trial and error.

I find my 1.8ohm kanger and aspire nautilus coils (and 1.6 aspire coil) are just too much heat for lighter colored and fruity juice especially higher pg juice.

I have strawberry 50/50, plum 50/50, and cappuccino 70/30 juice from different vendors.

I can have my 1.8 coils in and get the noticeable burn taste if I fire the button for 2 seconds at 3.4volts.

I can pop my kanger mini protank open, put in a 2.5 coil, let it wick, and fire up to 3 seconds per button press with no issues. I have to let it burn for 5-6 seconds to get the burn taste.

Start chain vaping and it's a bugger doing so with the 1.8's but totally easy with the 2.4's.

Darker chocolate juice or higher vg stuff this isn't as noticeable, then again you can really let those richer flavors toast before you notice the burn.

So why is everyone so high on the 1.8's, cause when fasttech is done with their vacation i'm about to drop a 20$ order on 30 2.4's (cause that's the highest they have en masse)

Discuss.

 

[Mikie]

I am curious too. I read a few posts about people doing high volts and I don't understand how.

2.3 ohm and 3.6 volts and I can take a 4 second draw, if I do it slowly. I am noob, so there is something I am missing with the higher volts.

 

[jimbodaddy74]

At 3.4 volts the lower resistance will give you higher wattage and vice versa.

P= Watts
E= Volts
I= Amps
R= Resistance

 

[jimbodaddy74]

Higher wattage=hotter vape/more burn.

 

[Grimmda]

Ok unless you explain urself, the wattage argument isn't welcome here. Because I can set my mvp2 to 3.2v or 6w (the minimum) I can do on it, and all of my original statement is still valid. I don't even understand what your point is. And I do understand how to vape at VV or VW, I feel those 1.8's are just too hot.

 

[Stosh]

I've been vaping for some time, and you're not missing anything.... Many vapers will enjoy a somewhat warmer vape, a bit more like a cigarette. Some flavors do seem a bit nicer, a bit warmer such as espresso, bourbon, tobacco, but the lighter fruit flavors, cappuccino will improve with less heat.

One solution if you're using a low resistance coil head is to let go of the fire button... that is you can take a longer draw, 5-10 seconds even, if you pulse the fire button on and off while you draw. This will do two things, while the PV is off, you still draw air across the coil cooling it a bit, and it will also draw in additional juice to the coil to be vaporized. Hold the button 1 or 2 seconds, let go 1/2 second, press again for 2 seconds, rinse and repeat....

Using high voltage works if you have a high enough resistance head, or if you've setup, modified your topper so that it is drawing in more juice and more air.

 

[Anthal69]

I've been vaping for some time, and you're not missing anything.... Many vapers will enjoy a somewhat warmer vape, a bit more like a cigarette. Some flavors do seem a bit nicer, a bit warmer such as espresso, bourbon, tobacco, but the lighter fruit flavors, cappuccino will improve with less heat.

One solution if you're using a low resistance coil head is to let go of the fire button... that is you can take a longer draw, 5-10 seconds even, if you pulse the fire button on and off while you draw. This will do two things, while the PV is off, you still draw air across the coil cooling it a bit, and it will also draw in additional juice to the coil to be vaporized. Hold the button 1 or 2 seconds, let go 1/2 second, press again for 2 seconds, rinse and repeat....

Using high voltage works if you have a high enough resistance head, or if you've setup, modified your topper so that it is drawing in more juice and more air.

Yes lower ohm heads are more "snappy" with the heat. The coil gets hotter much faster. So 5 second vape on a 1.8 is going to be much hotter than a 2.4. The 2.4 probably takes 2 to 3 seconds longer to heat to the same temp as the 1.8, hence the cooler, longer vapes.

 

[Grimmda]

I've been vaping for some time, and you're not missing anything.... Many vapers will enjoy a somewhat warmer vape, a bit more like a cigarette. Some flavors do seem a bit nicer, a bit warmer such as espresso, bourbon, tobacco, but the lighter fruit flavors, cappuccino will improve with less heat.

One solution if you're using a low resistance coil head is to let go of the fire button... that is you can take a longer draw, 5-10 seconds even, if you pulse the fire button on and off while you draw. This will do two things, while the PV is off, you still draw air across the coil cooling it a bit, and it will also draw in additional juice to the coil to be vaporized. Hold the button 1 or 2 seconds, let go 1/2 second, press again for 2 seconds, rinse and repeat....

Using high voltage works if you have a high enough resistance head, or if you've setup, modified your topper so that it is drawing in more juice and more air.

Thank you!

Yeah, I have been doing that to compensate for the juices I wanted less heat on, (while I had the 1.8's in) and aside from the pain in the .... factor, it wasn't nearly as successful as just putting that other coil in. Not to mention when I started chain vaping in it over the course of 5 minutes, no matter how quick I was on that button the head itself was so warm. It takes a lot more time for that to happen with the 2.5 heads.

 

[Stosh]

Thank you!

Yeah, I have been doing that to compensate for the juices I wanted less heat on, (while I had the 1.8's in) and aside from the pain in the .... factor, it wasn't nearly as successful as just putting that other coil in. Not to mention when I started chain vaping in it over the course of 5 minutes, no matter how quick I was on that button the head itself was so warm. It takes a lot more time for that to happen with the 2.5 heads.

LOL...back in the bad old days of vaping fixed voltage batteries were the norm, "adjusting" the heat with the button was a necessity. Finding the resistance, wattage you like best is as important as finding a flavor you like....and everyone is different...

 

[jimbodaddy74]

When you set a wattage on your MVP2, the voltage setting is nullified by the controls and vice versa. If you set to 6 watts, the voltage will be regulated based on the resistance of the coil. If you set to 3 volts, the battery will just fire at 3 volts. The wattage(actual power produced) will be determined by the resistance of the coil. That is why I posted the Ohm's law chart.

At 3.4 volts, the wattages for your coils will be:

4.8 watts at 2.4 ohms
6.4 watts at 1.8 ohms

So with the higher resistance coil, less wattage is produced, therefore less heat.
That means less burned taste.

I hope this makes sense.

 

[Grimmda]

When you set a wattage on your MVP2, the voltage setting is nullified by the controls and vice versa. If you set to 6 watts, the voltage will be regulated based on the resistance of the coil. If you set to 3 volts, the battery will just fire at 3 volts. The wattage(actual power produced) will be determined by the resistance of the coil. That is why I posted the Ohm's law chart.

At 3.4 volts, the wattages for your coils will be:

4.8 watts at 2.4 ohms
6.4 watts at 1.8 ohms

So with the higher resistance coil, less wattage is produced, therefore less heat.
That means less burned taste.

I hope this makes sense.

I totally agree. It wasn't about volts or watts. It was more a question of why is the majority of folks so high on 1.8 when I have more headroom with the 2.4's or such. True I get more battery life with the 1.8 but with the MVP2 I have, that's plenty of long lasting power for the day

I needed a few someone else to agree to justify a purchase here and hopefully point out to some fellow newbs there is nothing wrong with the 2.5's that came stock with there Evods hehe

Soon I will have 35 1.8's and 35 2.4's. And depending on the juice I stick in I what works best.

 

[mandi0808]

When you set a wattage on your MVP2, the voltage setting is nullified by the controls and vice versa. If you set to 6 watts, the voltage will be regulated based on the resistance of the coil. If you set to 3 volts, the battery will just fire at 3 volts. The wattage(actual power produced) will be determined by the resistance of the coil. That is why I posted the Ohm's law chart.

At 3.4 volts, the wattages for your coils will be:

4.8 watts at 2.4 ohms
6.4 watts at 1.8 ohms

So with the higher resistance coil, less wattage is produced, therefore less heat.
That means less burned taste.

I hope this makes sense.

Thank you for this. I wondered why I was having burn issues. This breaks it down easily.
I vape fruits, and I have found that I like at least 2.5 ohms with 6w max.
Anything higher than that and everything tastes burnt to me.

 

[Stosh]

Thank you for this. I wondered why I was having burn issues. This breaks it down easily.
I vape fruits, and I have found that I like at least 2.5 ohms with 6w max.
Anything higher than that and everything tastes burnt to me.

Always adjust your rig for the best taste and vapor for you, THEN look at the numbers, see where it's set. That way the next time you use the same flavor you know what to set it....

 

[jimbodaddy74]

I would like to encourage everybody that is getting into more advanced devices to have a copy of that chart for easy reference.

 

[jimbodaddy74]

Always adjust your rig for the best taste and vapor for you, THEN look at the numbers, see where it's set. That way the next time you use the same flavor you know what to set it....

Good advice.

 

[Wow1420]

I am curious too. I read a few posts about people doing high volts and I don't understand how.

2.3 ohm and 3.6 volts and I can take a 4 second draw, if I do it slowly. I am noob, so there is something I am missing with the higher volts.

Partly, it's a matter of individual taste and partly a matter of the wick being able to deliver juice to the coil fast enough to keep up with the faster vaporization from higher watts/volts.

With fruit flavors and stock protank heads, I vape around 5.5 watts. I use 2.4 ohm coils with a 3.7V battery.

 

[Topacka]

Ok unless you explain urself, the wattage argument isn't welcome here. Because I can set my mvp2 to 3.2v or 6w (the minimum) I can do on it, and all of my original statement is still valid. I don't even understand what your point is. And I do understand how to vape at VV or VW, I feel those 1.8's are just too hot.

A 1.8 ohm coil is going to contain less or thinner wire (or both) and thusly is going to heat up faster than a 2.4 ohm coil at the same wattage, but at the same voltage it would be less watts. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU LIKE then that's what you like. No need for there to be an argument about it, but generally people start out with a cooler vape and work their towards a hotter vape. I know I did. But not everybody's the same.

 

[Dana A]

I have experienced a burnt taste from every clearomizer I have ever tried (no matter how high of ohms the thing is) unless I have it down on such low volts that the vaper is anemic. I don't understand how anyone can use any of them. I thought it must just be me because people seem to love them. Try cartomizers. You can crank up a 3 ohm carto often to 6 volts with no burning flavor. At least I can anyways.

I have been vaping since the first if the year. So I am no experienced veteran but I have done a fair amount of research and trial and error.

I find my 1.8ohm kanger and aspire nautilus coils (and 1.6 aspire coil) are just too much heat for lighter colored and fruity juice especially higher pg juice.

I have strawberry 50/50, plum 50/50, and cappuccino 70/30 juice from different vendors.

I can have my 1.8 coils in and get the noticeable burn taste if I fire the button for 2 seconds at 3.4volts.

I can pop my kanger mini protank open, put in a 2.5 coil, let it wick, and fire up to 3 seconds per button press with no issues. I have to let it burn for 5-6 seconds to get the burn taste.

Start chain vaping and it's a bugger doing so with the 1.8's but totally easy with the 2.4's.

Darker chocolate juice or higher vg stuff this isn't as noticeable, then again you can really let those richer flavors toast before you notice the burn.

So why is everyone so high on the 1.8's, cause when fasttech is done with their vacation i'm about to drop a 20$ order on 30 2.4's (cause that's the highest they have en masse)

Discuss.

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

The relationship of resistance & wattage is a bit difficult to understand and very hard to explain in terms of words. A posted formula doesn't help those that have no understanding of electronics.

So, try this:

A 1.8 ohm single coil head will produce the same amount of heat at 8.5 watts as a 2.5 ohm single coil head will at 6 watts.

So, if your 2.5 ohm single coil head is actually running at 2.8 ohms then the coil would require 5.5 watts for same amount of heat.

If your PV won't go below 6 watts then the vape may burn.

How the juice reacts to a set amount of heat is dependant on many variables. Two variables include: ambient air temperature & humidity (known as dewpoint.) One more variable is the juice itself.

The bottom line is: If you're tasting burnt vape at minimum wattage, switch to VV. If you prefer VW, try lower resistance coils.

 

[Stosh]

The relationship of resistance & wattage is a bit difficult to understand and very hard to explain in terms of words. A posted formula doesn't help those that have no understanding of electronics.

So, try this:

A 1.8 ohm single coil head will produce the same amount of heat at 8.5 watts as a 2.5 ohm single coil head will at 6 watts.

So, if your 2.5 ohm single coil head is actually running at 2.8 ohms then the coil would require 5.5 watts for same amount of heat......

The bottom line is: If you're tasting burnt vape at minimum wattage, switch to VV. If you prefer VW, try lower resistance coils.

You're just a bit off here........the heat produced in your coil is dependent of the wattage, changing the resistance while keeping the same wattage (heat) will only vary your voltage (can't break Ohm's Law)

The resistance doesn't make a difference, so long as it's in a range that allows you to adjust up or down to reach the wattage you prefer.