This was not fun

[Racehorse]

Ouch, exactly why people are told not to leave batteries charging unattended. Good thing you were close to hear it.

But not "too close".

Really, it doesn't help to be nearby when these things happen. They can richochet all over the place.

Attended charge, i.e. mindful that you have something on the charger, out in garage or in a lipo bag or metal box (I used an old milkbox that they delivered milk in in the old days that I picked up in a junk shop) similar to Bowdens "money box" in previous photo.....with holes drilled in for cords.

I have never left my batts or charger out in the open in my "living space" . Seems like a very bad idea! Even with best equipment

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I am a rare and delicate flower.


Yes, I know I am quite different from almost every vaper on earth.
I have opined that I WILL be the last vaper on earth using standard 510 atomizers.

I used 18650 batteries on the Chucks you see in my avatar.
But they were only 3.8 to 4.2 volts and that wasn't my speed.

So then I switched to the 5.0 volt NiMh batteries for awhile.

But when the Ego Twist came out, I went there.
My goal is always smaller.

I don't vape more than a milliliter per day, and it's been that way for six years since I started.
So various things that concern other vapers don't concern me.

Out of curiosity, what strength of nicotine do you vape?

 

[DC2]

Out of curiosity, what strength of nicotine do you vape?

I've been vaping 12mg from day one.
And day one was over six years ago now.

Not ever going to change that.
I believe very strongly in nicotine.

 

[Boden]

My batteries, nor charger get hot when charging. I have all my electronics on voltage regulators, though. Not sure that makes a difference...

No difference at all.

Batteries heat up for two reasons, charge rate and internal resistance. If a battery is getting warm while charging (below 95*F) you can reduce the charge rate with the better chargers. Mine will charge at 1A 0.5A and 0.25A. I charge my batteries at 0.25A and they don't go over room temp while charging.

As a battery gets old the internal resistance goes up. This resistance will also cause the battery to heat up more and more the older it gets. I toss any battery that goes above 95*F while charging at 0.5A or looses more than 30% capacity.

 

[Asbestos4004]

What kind of battery is that?

I'm guessing he vapes custards

 

[stevegmu]

I'm guessing he vapes custards

Maybe he put the battery in backwards due to the fog of custards...

 

[Boden]

How do they NOT keep the heat in?
I'd be more tempted to say they reflect the heat right back in.

Metal absorbs heat and the box has holes in the top and bottom.

 

[Boden]

Not exactly air tight

 

[MikeyConti]

I am a rare and delicate flower.


Yes, I know I am quite different from almost every vaper on earth.
I have opined that I WILL be the last vaper on earth using standard 510 atomizers.

I used 18650 batteries on the Chucks you see in my avatar.
But they were only 3.8 to 4.2 volts and that wasn't my speed.

So then I switched to the 5.0 volt NiMh batteries for awhile.

But when the Ego Twist came out, I went there.
My goal is always smaller.

I don't vape more than a milliliter per day, and it's been that way for six years since I started.
So various things that concern other vapers don't concern me.

Whatever keeps you Vaping is a good choice!!

 

[DC2]

Metal absorbs heat and the box has holes in the top and bottom.

I doubt the holes in the bottom are helpful.

As for the holes in the top, I didn't see them at first glance.
You mean the holes where the handles go through?

Those appear very restrictive, and I don't think that does much to allow the heat to be released.
Assuming, of course, that the heat is just pouring out of these chargers.


As for metal absorbing heat, that's a simplistic view of the entire situation.
There are many factors to consider, including convection, conduction, and radiation.

I'm going to gracefully back out now, while giving you the last word.
But I remain unconvinced that lipo bags are a big "heat" issue.

Not exactly air tight
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EDIT: Okay, I'll give you that.
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[Boden]

If you want to learn about batteries and chargers go here: Flashlight information

 

[DC2]

Never mind, since you didn't quote me I won't assume that was directed at me.

 

[Boden]

Never mind, since you didn't quote me I won't assume that was directed at me.

It wasn't

 

[Racehorse]

The reason for not keeping directly in your living space, preferably on a cement or tile floor and inside a well ventillated box is more about not having "shrapnel" blow by your head and start bouncing off things in the house. Seen dented coffee makers, holes in ceilings, busted lamps, etc.
I was looking at 14500 battery / charger explosions over on the flashlight forums......pretty damaging, can't imagine what a 18650 or more would do.

The reality is this: no matter how well you care for things, stuff can happen. And you don't want it happening in a room where you and yours spend a lot of time, and where you may be hit by something.

JMHO.

 

[TyPie]

Glad you and yours are OK Dave. That is an awful thing. I gotta believe that a lot of good will come of your negative situation because of your post. It sure as hell gave ME pause,,,,,,

 

[Caterpiller]

Ok, first off I'm pleased to hear the only things hurt in this case were the charger, a battery, and perhaps your friends pride

I've been using the LUC4 for several months now, without issue.

In fact it's sitting on the TV cabinet in front of me right now, charging a matched pair of LG HE4's.

I charge my batteries at 0.5A and they have never been hotter than ambient coming out of the charger.

I only use these batteries in DNA40 regulated MODs and 90% of the time at 12-13watts with a single 1.4ohm coil.

I try to pull the batteries out of the MOD with still 3.7v left in them.

I would therefore assume that there. Is nothing in either the charging or depleting cycle that is putting these 18650's under any strain, and therefore virtually no chance of one of these venting.

I know it happen, I'd assumed mostly due to incorrect or high stress use.

What's the real world chances of having an issue with the above usage?

(Let's assume I throw out any battery I've used for more than a year)

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

For the poster who said their LUC 4 still charges past 4.2V, I tested mine and found that once the LED screen shows 4.2V, mine does continue to charge for up to half an hour. However, my guess is that the battery isn't actually at 4.2v just yet and possibly only at something like 4.17v. So maybe it is rounding off and showing it reached 4.2v when in actuality it has a little bit to go yet before it reaches the full charge and therefore keeps charging. Just a thought, just a guess.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

The other day, I was rebuilding an atomizer and when I cut off one of the legs, the little piece of kanthal flew off and guess where it landed...inside one of the wells of my charger.

Had I not caught that and before or at the time when I put a battery in that slot, with the the moon and stars aligned properly (or improperly), it could have proven to be at least somewhat of a "disaster".

Point is, check that the slots/wells of your charger are clear of debris before inserting a battery (as well as inserting them correctly...lol).

 

[Vaslovik]

Wowie Zowie! That's some serious business! I just abandoned that very same charger in favor of my new Xtar VP4. Not because I thought this might happen but because the spring let go in the No. 2 slot. It does in fact appear the battery was put in upside down, but just the same, this is not something I want to risk happening.

 

[jwbnyc]

Ya know I have been putting off a charger bag for a long time, I think I know what I will order this weekend. Glad you're ok and it looks like the damage was limited to the battery and charger.

I have a lipo bag.

I don't use it.

Maybe it is time to start.