Those who live in the path of Hurricane Erma

Status
Not open for further replies.

kross8

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 20, 2016
2,406
15,278
stuck in a squishy pod called my brain
So sad how greed has changed the way banks and insurance companies do business over the decades. Seems like the more humanity evolves, the less successful we become at being human.
true,, but to be fair,, both insurances are pretty cheap.

i think the biggest problem is people spend too much on their homes. housing prices are too high,,, and then the home becomes a money pit of repairs going forward.

we spent 3 days gutting a huge nice & expensive home in the NASA area for a friend,,,,,,,so glad we never bought a huge house,, you find builder shortcuts when you remove sheetrock. you would swear there was no building code back then.
 
Last edited:

kross8

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 20, 2016
2,406
15,278
stuck in a squishy pod called my brain
homeowners could learn a thing or two from boat owners. as some of you know i plan to buy a boat to live on,,,,,,,everywhere you click the speaker reminds you to plan on a % every year on repairs......ie,, the best ones i saw said if you pay $10,000 on a boat,, plan on putting $5k in it each year for repairs........granted after year 3 it may drop quite a bit (hopefully).....most say 25%,,,,,,,,,,,i prefer to be more prepared with 50%.

years ago a friend bought some nice big house,, in year 2 the a/c went out,, $13000 to replace--she was in shock,, but she shouldn't be,, its part of owning a home.

(dont count on those 'appliance repair insurance' programs to work........haha,, ours had a webpage but no way to contact them with a problem on the website. we called the number and talked to a computer.....the computer sent us a letter asking us to rate our repair,,,,,,,,the repair never happened,, we just made the repair without them)
 

DeAnna2112

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 21, 2015
817
1,732
Indiana
true,, but to be fair,, both insurances are pretty cheap.

i think the biggest problem is people spend too much on their homes. housing prices are too high,,, and then the home becomes a money pit of repairs going forward.

we spent 3 days gutting a huge nice & expensive home in the NASA area for a friend,,,,,,,so glad we never bought a huge house,, you find builder shortcuts when you remove sheetrock. you would swear there was no building code back then.

This is something that really irritates me, if your going to live in a hurricane prone area get flood insurance!! it's law that we have auto insurance and the same should be for flood insurance for folks in flood prone or hurricane prone areas..just my two cents. It's not a matter if a flood or hurricane will occur it's a matter of when
 

DeAnna2112

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 21, 2015
817
1,732
Indiana
any who i hope those of you in florida have a stock pile of batteries to charge in case you lose power! i was thinking about this at work today. I would be so screwed because i don't have a stock pile of batteries. Several years ago we got the after effect of a hurricane, don't remember which one, but it knocked out power for 5 days because the wind was so bad, and i live in Indiana! Nuts were flying off the trees soo hard it left dents in our grill lid. One track has this storm heading our way, need to rethink my battery supply. Already been burnt by one hurricane already. Never thought about it til now.
 

DeAnna2112

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 21, 2015
817
1,732
Indiana
We're on the east coast of Fl, about half way up. Mid way between Jacksonville and Miami. We have plans to leave, either late Thursday, or Friday morning. We're watching the predicted track closely until then. Our dogs are our main concern. I'm not too worried about the sealed, unopened bottles of nic in the freezer. It should be fine. As far as vape gear, my main focus is on my wood squonkers. I have a few that are one of a kind, and quite valuable. They will all be carefully packed up and going with us. My metal squonkers (REOs) should be fine, if I leave them. About all that can happen to them is they get wet, which isn't a big deal. But I wouldn't want the wood mods to get damaged by water. So, I'll be taking those, my batteries, charger, wicking cotton, and a few bottles of juice.

Keeping you in my prayers looks like you guys are in for a ride from watching the weather and where your located. Be safe and while the wind blows vape on!!
 

ZCAR1

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 22, 2014
231
518
San Antonio, TX, USA
"it's law that we have auto insurance"

The law requires having Liability insurance to protect others on the road.
Comprehensive insurance, to cover your own car, is voluntary.

Here in San Antonio, the largest $ item on my auto insurance is for "uninsured motorists".
In other words, I'm paying for the other guy's insurance, often for those here illegally.
 

DeAnna2112

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 21, 2015
817
1,732
Indiana
"it's law that we have auto insurance"

The law requires having Liability insurance to protect others on the road.
Comprehensive insurance, to cover your own car, is voluntary.

Here in San Antonio, the largest $ item on my auto insurance is for "uninsured motorists".
In other words, I'm paying for the other guy's insurance, often for those here illegally.

It's BS!! why is my tax dollars going to pay $30,000 per home because they didn't have flood insurance. Congress is going to have to approve this bill and raise the debt ceiling to cover it, not to mention florida. It's BS and shouldn't be allowed. You are going to live in these areas it should be law you have flood insurance
 
  • Like
Reactions: stols001

puffon

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
  • Sep 18, 2014
    5,928
    15,765
    Florida
    It's BS!! why is my tax dollars going to pay $30,000 per home because they didn't have flood insurance. Congress is going to have to approve this bill and raise the debt ceiling to cover it, not to mention florida. It's BS and shouldn't be allowed. You are going to live in these areas it should be law you have flood insurance
    I have it, but wonder if I need it, will there be $ available.
    Flood insurance is only available through the National Flood Insurance Program.
    Interesting read:
    Can FEMA’s Flood Insurance Program Afford Another Disaster?
     

    DeAnna2112

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Apr 21, 2015
    817
    1,732
    Indiana
    FEMA is very limited it you rely on it..you should have your own flood insurance, not depending on FEMA. According to house speaker Ryan it's about to run out within a day or two. That is if i understood you correctly and relying on FEMA. I think FEMA will hold up to their deal, but folks should not be relying on that. They should have their own flood insurance.
     

    puffon

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
  • Sep 18, 2014
    5,928
    15,765
    Florida
    They should have their own flood insurance
    Flood insurance is only available through the "National Flood Insurance Program" (FEMA)

    "Floods cause more damage each year in the United States than any other kind of natural disaster — so much more, in fact, that most private insurance companies stopped offering flood insurance decades ago. In 1968, the federal government stepped in, creating the National Flood Insurance Program. The program is run today by the Federal Emergency Management Agency."
     

    puffon

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
  • Sep 18, 2014
    5,928
    15,765
    Florida
    you always hear about those who did not have flood insurance, yet it's offered through FEMA correct? from what you are telling me?
    In Florida there are no private insurance carriers that will sell you flood insurance, if you are in a "flood plain".
    They only option is the federally backed "National Flood insurance Program" (FEMA), which is on it's way to being broke.
    Hopefully I won't have to make a claim.
     
    Last edited:

    kross8

    Ultra Member
    ECF Veteran
    Feb 20, 2016
    2,406
    15,278
    stuck in a squishy pod called my brain
    you always hear about those who did not have flood insurance, yet it's offered through FEMA correct? from what you are telling me?
    down here,,'on the coast' we have a window of time to buy,, then it closes.......if my feeble memory is correct,, its sometime in April. unless you are buying a home, then you can buy at point of purchase. ,,,,,,,i cant remember if the east side of sh146 was also in a tighter window,,---i am on the west side now.

    fema these days seems to cover people a heck of a lot more than it did for us in ike.
     

    kross8

    Ultra Member
    ECF Veteran
    Feb 20, 2016
    2,406
    15,278
    stuck in a squishy pod called my brain
    Commonly asked questions about disaster aid from FEMA:(from a dif disaster,,use for a guide line)

    Q: Who should apply for federal disaster assistance?
    A: Missouri homeowners and renters in disaster-designated counties who sustained damage to their homes, vehicles or personal property as a result of the severe storms and flooding from December 23, 2015 through January 9, 2016 can apply for FEMA grants.

    Q: How do I apply?
    A: Residents who were affected can apply for assistance online at www.DisasterAssistance.gov or call 800-621-3362 or (TTY) 800-462-7585, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. seven days a week. Those who use 711-Relay or Video Relay Services can call 800-621-3362. The application deadline is March 21.

    Q: What kinds of FEMA grants are available?
    A: Disaster assistance may include grants to help pay for temporary housing, emergency home repairs, uninsured and underinsured personal property losses and medical, dental and funeral expenses caused by the disaster, along with other serious disaster-related expenses.

    Q: What happens after I register?
    A: You will receive a phone call from a FEMA inspector to arrange for a survey of the damages. This will come just days after you register. All FEMA inspectors will have official identification. They do not approve or deny claims or requests; those come after the inspection results are submitted. FEMA inspectors do not ask for money and do not recommend contractors to make repairs.

    Q. I’ve already cleaned up and made repairs to my property. Am I still eligible to register with FEMA?
    A. Yes. You may be eligible for reimbursement of your clean-up and repair expenses. Before and after photos of the damaged property can help expedite your application for assistance.

    Q: Does my income need to be under a certain dollar amount to qualify for disaster aid?
    A: FEMA’s Housing Assistance program is available, regardless of income, to anyone who suffered damages or losses in disaster-declared counties. However, aid for other losses such as personal property, vehicle repair or replacement, and moving and storage expenses is income-dependent and officials make decisions on a case-by-case basis. To be considered for a grant for these types of losses, the applicant must complete an application for an SBA loan.

    Q. I have flood insurance. Should I still register with FEMA?
    A. Yes. But please contact your insurance company first.

    Q: Does the Small Business Administration (SBA) offer loans to homeowners and renters?
    A: Yes. The SBA is the primary source of financial assistance following a disaster and provides low-interest disaster loans to homeowners and renters.

    Q: Do I have to be turned down by my bank before I can apply for a disaster loan?
    A: No. The SBA has its own criteria for determining each loan applicant’s eligibility.

    Q: If I rent an apartment, can I get help to replace my damaged personal property?
    A: Yes. Renters may qualify for a FEMA grant. Renters may also qualify for SBA disaster loans.

    Q: Will FEMA pay for all home repairs or contract work?
    A: No. FEMA does not pay to return your home to its pre-disaster condition. FEMA provides grants to qualified homeowners to repair damage not covered by insurance, but these grants may not pay for all the damage. However, an SBA disaster loan may return a home to its pre-disaster condition.

    Q: Do I have to repay money I receive for disaster relief?
    A: No. You do not have to repay grant money, however SBA disaster loans must be repaid.

    Q: Do I have to be a legal U.S. resident to receive Individual Assistance?
    A: No. If you have a child living at home who is a U.S. citizen or a qualified alien, you may apply for Individual Assistance on that child’s behalf and you may be eligible to receive Individual Assistance. FEMA may provide undocumented, eligible immigrants with short-term, non-cash emergency aid.

    Q: How can I check the status of my case?
    A: You may go online to www.DisasterAssistance.gov or call the toll-free FEMA Helpline at 800-621-3362 (FEMA) or (TTY) 1-800-462-7585. If you need face-to-face assistance, visit a Disaster Recovery Center (DRC) or speak with someone from one of FEMA’s Disaster Survivor Assistance (DSA) teams currently going door-to-door in Missouri’s disaster-declared counties. All DRCs are accessible and equipped with tools to accommodate disaster survivors who need disability related communication aids.
     

    kross8

    Ultra Member
    ECF Veteran
    Feb 20, 2016
    2,406
    15,278
    stuck in a squishy pod called my brain
    my neighborhood got nothing from FEMA,, we were told we lived too close to the water,,,,,meantime leftovers from Hurricane Katrina got 18 months of additional free rent. we lived in a tent for 3 weeks and in a storage building off our garage for several months. the top tempt was 62*. our son was in Iraq, he lost his car,, fema said no help for his car too.

    insurance companies, busting their butts to not pay fairly,, banks held the funds from homeowners...we were the 2nd family in our neighborhood to get our money after 4 years of fighting and court dates. (translated: we Ikers bailed the banks out before the taxpayers did)
     

    beckdg

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Oct 1, 2013
    11,018
    35,706
    TN
    It's BS!! why is my tax dollars going to pay $30,000 per home because they didn't have flood insurance. Congress is going to have to approve this bill and raise the debt ceiling to cover it, not to mention florida. It's BS and shouldn't be allowed. You are going to live in these areas it should be law you have flood insurance
    :blink: Wow!

    Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
     

    beckdg

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Oct 1, 2013
    11,018
    35,706
    TN
    you always hear about those who did not have flood insurance, yet it's offered through FEMA correct? from what you are telling me?
    Mandatory if you have a mortgage in several of the flood zone levels, BTW.

    Also good to know these levels are artificially bolstered to help pay the premiums for legit flood plains.

    A few years back I lived in a house in an artificial flood zone zoned to force inhabitants to pay for repairs in surrounding areas.

    Simple math is the problem.

    But if they charged what was necessary to those who need it, entire populations would be displaced... homeless... over night.

    Hurricane Katrina would fall somewhere between a fond memory and a tasteful joke in contrast.

    Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread