thoughts on this article please

[QueenVictoria]

www. realfarmacy .com/study-reveals-e-cigarettes-toxic/
Study Reveals E-Cigarettes Contain Formaldehyde and Produce Toxic Secondhand “Smoke”

www. realfarmacy .com/study-reveals-e-cigarettes-toxic#Qik3L9XxfXvZoWkk.01

 

[DC2]

Give me a few minutes and I'll give you all the links to show what crap that is.
Hang on, be back in a few...

 

[Huffelpuff]

but... there is always another way to look at things-- here is some more formaldehyde research: http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/10/new-study-provides-more-evidence-that.html

 

[QueenVictoria]

No links needed. I think it's total BS.

 

[DC2]

Start here...
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/03/new-study-of-electronic-cigarette-vapor.html

I think I can find more though...

 

[DC2]

Since the study referenced in the article is from the German Cancer Research Society, there is this...
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/05/german-cancer-research-center-lies.html
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/06/german-cancer-research-center-corrects.html

 

[DC2]

That article is based on this garbage...
www. dkfz .de/en/presse/download/RS-Vol19-E-Cigarettes-EN.pdf

I have never seen that garbage before, therefore I have never seen a direct refutation of it.
It appears to be 30 pages of propaganda.

 

[DC2]

Here we go, this is the one I was looking for...
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-shows-that-emission-of.html

 

[Shadav]

lmfao I love that commercial

eh didn't read the article lol but seeing that no two ecigs are the same...they can't compare...and as far as formaldehyde it was probably not actually in the e cig but was used to clean it and not thoroughly rinsed.....

these "studies" fail to mention how they clean their machines/pieces and bla bla bla....as with any media it's all one sided

 

[Iffy]

Bonjour!

 

[SissySpike]

There are lots of sources for formaldehyde. Ply wood made before a certain date fore one. from what Ive read the amount is so low it dose not propose a significant risk. If we are honest with our selves we know vaping is safer than smoking but the best thing is to not do it at all.
Im much happier and healthier vaping than smoking.

 

[AttyPops]

formaldehyde is produced by over-heating e-juice as I understand it. VG in particular because it's produced at a lower temp.

Now, cigs have it in them too for whatever reason (they can have PG and VG in them too, so it makes sense that burning them would produce it).

The tests using standard e-cigs at standard temps indicate little if any is produced. However, that's the rub with mods and all the different juice delivery devices...a lot more testing needs to happen with all the variables IMHO. That said, I call B.S. on that propaganda for "normal" vaping temps.

However, it's also the reason that I use mostly-PG juice. Hoping that better wicking and lower temps due to evaporative cooling helps keep production of formaldehyde to a minimum (maybe zero).

That's all off the top of my head...so grain of salt and

 

[Heavyrocker]

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[Penn]

Yeah, you can trust a source that spells pharmacy as "farmacy". But hey, they put "real" at the beginning so it must be "legit".

 

[midgyp]

There are lots of sources for formaldehyde. Ply wood made before a certain date fore one. from what Ive read the amount is so low it dose not propose a significant risk. If we are honest with our selves we know vaping is safer than smoking but the best thing is to not do it at all.
Im much happier and healthier vaping than smoking.

So true…there are traces of formaldehyde in most products we purchase. Even walking through a department store (or any store for that matter) you are breathing in particles of formaldehyde, they use it to preserve fabric, plastic, etc….

 

[midgyp]

Maybe that "study" is "legit", but from what I've researched its a load of crap!

 

[solar flare glass]

Bonjour!

Enough said!

 

[sonicdsl]

Please remember to break links to junk science sites. Thanks!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html

 

[EddardinWinter]

From the "study" the article cites

Electronic cigarettes are novel products emerging on the market just a couple of years ago. Consequently, there are only few scientific studies on the health implications of using electronic cigarettes.

Not true. They have been widely available for over five years. A lazy and ill-founded statement that is one of the premises of the study.

Electronic cigarettes have various technical flaws (leaking cartridges, accidental intake of nicotine when replacing cartridges, possibility of unintended overdose).

Has never happened, this is speculation and not part of the study materials or testing procedure. It is simply unscientific speculation on the part of the writer.

The liquids contain ingredients that on short-term use irritate airways and may lead to allergic reactions and which may be harmful to health when inhaled repeatedly over a prolonged period of time.

This is also true of peanut butter sandwiches.

Even though only few non-smokers use electronic cigarettes, the products may bring them closer to smoking conventional cigarettes.

Again, this is speculation and not part of the study materials or testing procedure. It is simply unscientific speculation on the part of the writer. There is no study that supports this claim. It is illuminating to the agenda of the writer.

Electronic cigarettes should be regulated as medicinal products, regardless of their nicotine content

Wow. An amazing leap of logic, and contradictory to other premises they espouse. If the products are not a proven smoking cessation device (as is noted by the writer), what medical use do they have? Without a medical use, there is absolutely no basis for this absurd claim. No support of this position is provided.

All in all, I would call this study a complete pile of rubbish.

 

[EddardinWinter]

formaldehyde is produced by over-heating e-juice as I understand it. VG in particular because it's produced at a lower temp.

Now, cigs have it in them too for whatever reason (they can have PG and VG in them too, so it makes sense that burning them would produce it).

The tests using standard e-cigs at standard temps indicate little if any is produced. However, that's the rub with mods and all the different juice delivery devices...a lot more testing needs to happen with all the variables IMHO. That said, I call B.S. on that propaganda for "normal" vaping temps.

However, it's also the reason that I use mostly-PG juice. Hoping that better wicking and lower temps due to evaporative cooling helps keep production of formaldehyde to a minimum (maybe zero).

That's all off the top of my head...so grain of salt and

The article by Dr Seigel that DC linked supposes the exact opposite and attributes formaldehyde to the PG ingredient. It is not entirely known at this point, according to Dr. Seigel, whom I have found to be a very reliable source in these matters. I have heard this supposition before. It is likely caused by excess heat applied to the liquid. in any case, it is found in minimal quantities.