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Threats in a Zombie Apocalypse? What threats?

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There are many discussions and debates about what you should do or have in a zombie outbreak. Merits about this weapon choice over that one, what gear you need, what clothes you'd wear, etc.

Rarely though is there a discussion of the deeper stresses or additional threats that can come along with survival in a post-apocalyptic world. Given that knowledge is power, I'd like to dedicate this thread to the discussion of additional threats to your health and well being aside from the more obvious ones (being eaten, starving to death, etc). The better you are armed with knowledge the more capable you are to survive anything, even if a disaster comes along that's unfortunately not a zombie apocalypse. This will allow you to be what most people will not be....alive.

Feel free to go as indepth or as short as you like, but let's think outside the box a little bit. Things that aren't really discussed much in survival guides or zombie survival videos, but that pose a very real risk of either killing you or reducing your tactical capability in a way that will lead to you getting killed.
 

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Mental stress and coping with emotions
Fear
This post will touch on a broad range of mental issues related to fear which are not often explained very much in most survival guides or books. This is VERY important information in my opinion because a warrior's greatest weapon is his mind. If your mind is unfit or hindered you are at a much greater risk of making a bad decision which can get you killed or seriously hurt, or you may even find yourself in a position where it seems preferable to take your own life given the horror, loss and pain that can be suffered during a major disaster such as a zombie apocalypse.

Fear is a valuable tool, contrary to popular opinions about it. Fear is good in moderation and will go a very long way to keep you alive. Uncontrolled fear, however, can be extremely dangerous leading you to rash decisions which could put your health in serious risk. Prolonged fear saturation has a wide range of ill effects that can include depression or suicidal thoughts as the mind cannot cope with being in a high-fear state for extended periods of time.

So how does one go about controlling fear? There's no easy answer to this, really. The only way you can learn how you will react to fear, and how to control it, is to put yourself in fearful situations under controlled circumstances. Then at least you will have an idea how your body and mind will react to the fear stimuli and then you can exercise measures to control it so you don't make decisions which could get you hurt or killed. The only way to prepare for things like this is to see and experience it. I might add, conquering your fears while it is certainly scary to do it....gives you incredible confidence afterwards when and if you have succeeded.

There are 2 primary types of fear I am concerned about in relation to a zombie apocalypse. Flight fear, and extended fear.

Flight fear
This is the type of fear you feel when you come around a corner and get surprised by a zombie horde you weren't expecting. Or when someone puts a gun in your face. Anything that you perceive to be a cause of immediate bodily harm or death causes the same reactions, only different degrees. Understanding and dealing with those reactions will allow you to control your decisions even in the face of extreme circumstances, which may very well be the difference between life and death.

Flight fear is immediate, and hard. It is your body's natural reaction to danger, elevating your adrenaline levels and increasing your heartbeat. Your muscles tense and your breathing quickens as your body readies itself in a fight or flight response to danger. Your brain goes into hyperdrive, but especially at higher perceived threat and heartbeat levels your logical part of your brain is sometimes short-circuited. There are many reasons why this happens but most of them are irrelevant as to WHY it happens. What matters is that you learn to cope and control the HOW it happens.

Controlling this type of fear is *paramount* as in a zombie apocalypse there are a myriad of dangers you will be facing. If you blindly rush away from a pack of zombies only to break your leg tripping on something you are very likely just as dead as if you hadn't run.

Here are some tips for controlling this type of fear:
1) Slow down. Unless you are going to die RIGHT THEN, stop and force your breathing to slow down somewhat. When your heartbeat gets near 150 beats per minute, studies have shown conclusively that you simply do not think rationally. You react on instinct, and that can save your life in some ways perhaps but may very well put it at a greater risk when you have a wide array of threats you face at once.

2) Take combat training. Martial arts classes, boxing, whatever. Anything that puts you in combat in a controlled situation with an experienced coach will go a long way to help you keep a cool head during a high stress situation. Not many of us have been military/police trained and learned how to cope with this stress. Trust me, this is one thing you don't want to learn on the job in the middle of a zombie invasion. Taking combat sport is not only good for you, but will really show you how your body can react and how you can keep your mind sharp when it counts.

3) Be prepared and informed. Many, many people will die during a massive zombie outbreak because they were caught off guard. The majority will not be prepared, nor know essential skills so they can stay alive with or without gear to use. They will not have a plan. They will not know what to do when the fear grips them. As a result of this, many people will die. By being informed you learn not only your own capabilities, but at least have an idea of what you'll do in a nasty situation. Having at least a skeleton of a plan when things go wrong can make a world of difference when it comes to your survival.

4) Be brutally honest. This, for most people, is something they will fail at. Realizing that your entire neighborhood has turned into ravenous flesh-eating zombies is a monstrous shock to your body and your mind. Finding yourself in a situation where you may be fighting for your life on many occasions including perhaps even having to dispatch people that you knew when they got turned into zombies is HARD. There's no doubt about that. Realizing this ahead of time may just be the difference that you need to be able to keep your cool head, and that can keep you alive.

Extended fear
This is a more insidious danger, but not as apparent in many cases. Extended fear has a wide range of negative effects upon both the body and the mind. Most people will be fully unprepared to deal with this as we've lived in a relatively safe and reasonably secure society with many safety nets. In a large scale zombie apocalypse, all of that will be brutally stripped away and removed. You will be running for your life, you will be fighting for your life, and safety is never guaranteed. You may run out of food, water, or ammo, or medicine and find yourself in a bad spot. You will have to struggle with the realizations that most of humanity is wiped out, and your own chances of long-term survival might be slim. All of these things and more will be pressures that push upon your mind almost constantly, and that can be incredibly dangerous.

Mental fatigue from emotional stress as well as physical reasons will probably be the number 1 killer after the zombies themselves. Survivors will be facing a wide array of tough emotions like grief, loss, anger, horror and despair. This will lead to some people making rash choices out of desperation, or perhaps even considering taking their own life because they have lost the hope of finding other people and having any measure of safety.

Again, there is no easy set of rules that can just 'fix' this. Every person is going to have to come to their own balance of things, and many will probably fail to do so. Here are a few things that you can do to try and alleviate at least some of the long-term effects of fear saturation.

1) Stay busy. Allowing your mind to drift here and there is fine, but allowing it to drift too long can lead you down a chain of thoughts that will become destructive. If, for instance, you stop and think about how many zombies there are it's not a far leap to realizing that they were all people, and speculating that there might not be any more people out there anymore. If there aren't any more people, and you're alone and it's dark and you haven't spoken to anyone for days/weeks/months...you may lose hope that there is any reason to stay alive. You may even think it's a good idea to end it yourself so you don't turn into a zombie as well. Interrupt this thought process as often as you can so it doesn't chain like this. Stay busy, make plans even if they are ridiculous. Check your perimeter/shelter's safety. Assess food/water/medicine/ammo daily and think about how you can get more without putting yourself in too much danger. Focus on the constructive things you can do, not all the destructive things that have happened.

2) Dehumanize the zombies. I know this sounds harsh. I know they were people, but they're not any longer. But if you allow yourself to think of zombies as your friends, your fellow city-mates, whatever...and you can't act when you need to act you...are....going....to....die. Think of them as parasites, cordwood, mannequins, whatever you need to do to convince yourself that what you are dealing with is no longer human. Do not attach emotion to the disposal or elimination of zombies, but also be aware that you need to self-monitor so that you don't lose your own humanity. Killing is never (nor should it be) an easy thing. But in a zombie apocalypse, sooner or later it WILL be necessary. It is better if you can armor yourself up with some mental padding to soften the blow when you have to do what you have to do to survive.

3) Focus on beauty as much as you can. There will be a lot of destruction and horror in a zombie apocalypse. There will be death, fires, privations, loss. All of that is going to hurt. You must counterbalance this in your mind by taking what pleasures you can get when you can get them. Enjoy the sunrise, or the taste of the food you can find. Anything you can use to remind yourself that there is still good in the world, that there are still things worth seeing and doing....will keep you going for another day.

4) Self-monitor your emotions. You may find yourself alone for extended periods of time in a zombie apocalypse. Most people are not used to this. You must stay aware of your reactions and the reasons why you're thinking what you're thinking and feeling what you're feeling. Doing that will keep you sane. It's a natural reaction to block things down, and that will work for the short term. Do it for the long term, though, and you're going to have a psychotic break under the strain. You may also be dealing with other people and a wide range of issues will arise. Arguments, grief and pain on the part of other people will weigh you down as well if you don't do something to bolster not only yourself but those other people. Know yourself, and if you don't really know yourself and why you think/do what you do....start learning. This again, is another lesson you don't want to have to learn the hard way when you have all the other considerations of survival on your plate during a catastrophe.

Learning how to face down fear and control it will keep you alive. It will also give you confidence, which other people will be drawn to in a group situation. You may find yourself becoming a leader because you're the one with the cool head while everyone else is a babbling mess. You must have the strength in and of yourself to be able to stay alive first, then you can help other people as well. Eventually, you can help rebuild society.
 

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Unmanned facilities could present a pretty serious problem. Particularly things like waste treatment facilities. Chemical manufacturers, Power stations etc.

A lack of emergency response personnel would be problematic as well. People take things like firefighters and access to hospitals for granted. But with most of the population decimated? Well just look at how many cases of uncontrolled brush and forest fires we have had in the last decade. How many times has a fire raged for weeks, even with planes dropping chemical payloads of flame ......ant material 5 times a day? Now imagine what that would have looked like if the remaining humans were huddled in a tent somewhere eating beans. Or chillaxing in some insidious casino. Even the most zen state of mind won't save you if you are backed between a wall of undead and a wall of burning sewage.
 

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Mental stress and coping with emotions part 2
Guilt/loss/despair/horror

It's pretty much a given that in a zombie apocalypse you are going to lose people that you know (unless you're a hermit). This will likely include other survivors that you may have found along the way, and who fell to accident/disease/zombie attack. Guilt and loss are powerful and crippling emotions which must be dealt with in a healthy fashion in order for you to stay in survival shape. Depending on your situation, you may not have time to grieve for lost friends, loved ones or companions that you've befriended after the crisis.

Locking your emotions away is useful, but it is something must be done carefully. In order to remain human and reduce the risk of an emotional breakdown you need to deal with and release negative emotions like anger, grief and despair. This should, obviously, be done in a relatively safe environment. Getting to and/or maintaining a safe enough environment then becomes priority one along with enough essentials for survival. Without those, it won't matter how bad you feel about a compatriot dying as you're going to be next on the menu if you don't keep your act together well enough to get safe for at least a little while.

Safety in a zombie apocalypse is something that you can never take for granted, but if you can get safe enough you can tackle those emotions so that you can purge them from your mind and clear your thoughts so that you can give yourself the best chances for survival.

Do not underestimate the power of horror, grief and loss to be able to cripple you. Watch the new Dawn of the Dead again and pay close attention to what happens to the girl during the early parts of the movie. She was numbed, staring as other people were getting attacked. Her reaction times were slow, and it was pure luck in a few of those cases why she managed to stay alive. You do not want to be counting on luck to save your bacon in a massive catastrophe.

So, if you must avoid this, how do you do so?

It's probably not possible to fully avoid it, not unless you are a psychopath yourself and have no empathy for your fellow human beings being murdered and eaten. Shock is a natural and normal reaction in situations like these, but you do not have the time to be able to afford to take very long at it. You must snap yourself out of it so that you can get what you need, seek some shelter, and secure some goods to stay alive. You won't get any of that done while you're numbly watching people get pulled down by zombies, and fires start raging, and people are scrambling everywhere confused and scared and probably about to die. You have to move. Slap yourself, yell at yourself, do whatever you need to do to try and break yourself out of the shock state so you can start thinking more clearly again. Standing still with tears in your eyes, while an expected and natural reaction in most circumstances will in this case get you killed.

Many people have not seen death up close and personal. Unless you're a wartime soldier, or come from a third world country where violence and mortality are much more common than they are in most first world nations.....most of us are going to be completely unprepared for this level of violence and death. The good news is, if you're reading and thinking about this kind of thing, already you are more prepared than most people will be because at least you are acknowledging the possibility that a situation like a zombie apocalypse on a massive scale (or any other major catastrophe) can happen. Accepting your reality is the first step to constructively dealing with things in a useful manner.

Once you are in a secure enough location, then it is time to grieve. Do not hold these things in unless you absolutely must. It will come back and bite you in the backside later on, when stress keeps building up. Even the toughest meanest guys still have feelings, and locking them away is not going to do you any favors. Everyone has to accept and deal with grief, shock, horror, and loss in their own way, there is no right answer to how you should go about it. For some, the answer will be to get angry and seek revenge. Others will cry it out. Others will turn it into resolve to stay alive for one more day so that they can rebuild humanity eventually. All of these are valid ways of metabolizing these hard emotions so that you can turn them into constructive directions instead of letting them consume you.
 

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So, people aren't really built to be under constant stress- and the zombpocalypse is something of a 24 hour a day stresser. It's likely to be quite awhile before there's a semblance of safety, and even longer before one can take more than a short time without being hypervigilant. Sleeping in bits and pieces, frequent/constant adrenalin release will affect mood and judgement no matter what you do.

(it might be possible to take a break in Dr. Morbid's casino, but that's fraught with its own dangers)
 

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Simple infections that turn septic.

We take for granted that "it's just a little scratch" in these days of hot water, soap, and readily available Neosporin and bandaids. But it wasn't all that long ago that a little scratch could be life-threatening. Combine a little scratch with dirt, stress, malnutrition, and a serious lack of Neosporin and bandaids, and you've got an infected scratch that can easily turn into sepsis. Death by papercut isn't any prettier than death by anything else.
 

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But! There will be plenty of bacon available.

Yes there will, especially if you plan to do what I'm going to do and stock up on Tactical Bacon. It's amazing how many of life's necessities you can do without when you have a few of it's pleasures.

No TP, no problem. No running water, no problem. No 'lectricity, NO PROBLEM. Got Tac-Bac? Good to go.

Speaking of fresh food, however, that will be virtually unavailable and spoil quickly. Nutrition concerns will be at a premium particularly if you have to do a lot of running. Many people nowadays are simply not used to living off a very lean supply of food. We're quite used to eating 3 (or more) times a day, and that simply will not be possible in pretty much all cases even if you DO manage to find a suitable zombie-proof fortress. What that means is, find/and or stock up on freeze-dried and canned foods. Also stock multivitamins. They usually have a shelf life (the vitamins) but will be *essential* for survival to stay combat fit during the early and more dangerous months of a zombie outbreak.

Stockpiling in advance, with a suitably located and supplied structure that is well-built is probably the only real way to ensure physical safety. This does not guarantee food availability though. Estimates on the "lifespan" of zombies range from a few years in some areas (very humid and warm) to potentially decades or longer depending on the nature of the infection and whether or not zombies actually require sustenance to continue their unlife.

Also unknown would be the impact upon the ecosystem. A zombie virus of sufficiently powerful or protean strains could infect the wildlife and then of course the meat would be unsafe to eat (as well as highly dangerous). Fish and game animals may become either zombified, or otherwise infected in a manner which makes them unsafe to eat. Other carrion eaters (crows, roaches, hyenas etc) could exacerbate this cross-contamination of the animal species. If it is a chimeric virus and contaminates water supplies, it could make it entirely impossible to even grow crops to survive with. Too much is unknown about potential zombie virus strains and their impact upon the ecosystem. We simply don't know even if humanity does manage to survive the initial outbreak and several years afterwards...whether the world would even be able to sustain life as we know it.

The only thing we can do is try. Suitably stocked shelters with contained water sources & purification methods would eventually be required for humanity to try and outlast a zombie virus. Staying on the move is also good, but sooner or later mistakes will be made and people will be lost to zombie attacks, accidents, attacks from roving human gangs, disease, malnutrition...etc. No matter which way you slice it though, survivors will have to learn to work together in order to try and find a secure location to outlast the zombies and attempt to rebuild civilization eventually.
 

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Its not an immediate concern but depending on how long the apocalypse lasts lack of genetic diversity could be a huge problem in isolated areas. Dating would be severely complicated by having to run the gauntlet of roving zombie hordes just to find someone of the opposite sex outside of you own bunker or compound.

On the flip side of that, it would personify survival of the fittest as only the strongest, fastest and smartest young men and women would have a chance of surviving the search for a mate.

I am however comforted by the news that Twinkies (the ultimate survival food besides bacon) will be back on store shelves by summer.
 

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Its not an immediate concern but depending on how long the apocalypse lasts lack of genetic diversity could be a huge problem in isolated areas. Dating would be severely complicated by having to run the gauntlet of roving zombie hordes just to find someone of the opposite sex outside of you own bunker or compound.

On the flip side of that, it would personify survival of the fittest as only the strongest, fastest and smartest young men and women would have a chance of surviving the search for a mate.

I am however comforted by the news that Twinkies (the ultimate survival food besides bacon) will be back on store shelves by summer.

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So I didn't read.... well really any of this thread BUT I can tell you that as soon as the water from cooling pools at nuclear power facilities evaporators pretty much all of the surviving populace will have to deal with hair loss... which I hear can be traumatic... oh and the constant vomiting... But unless Stan Lee has lead me astray my whole life… if you are lucky enough to be bitten by a radioactive zombie You’ll get super zombie powers… such as the ability to walk slowly… and ummm bite people?.... hummmm that kinda sounds the same as being bitten by a regular zombie….
 
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