Throat hit with flavor, our new addiction?

[CArtVapr]

So, Ecigs can give a really great and satisfying throat hit with great flavor that we all love, but do we all realize, analog cigs don't give that kind of hit at all? Seriously, try an analog now and see if you get a throat hit! I tried tonight, and that is one of the reasons why I feel the E-cig RULES over reguular cigs. The throat hit is very weak compared. We have upped-maxed the throat hit to EXTREME addiction conditions, and it's hard to think that it's safe, but I guess it is...( and enjoyable to many) So the question is, what has produced that throat hit, is it burning our throat? What is IT going to cause us in the future? Are we experiencing such a great feeling with no damage at all? I wonder... It seems like it could be a whole new addiction really, and if it's healthy then that's good but when something seems too good to be true... well you know. So really, we are test rats, cause even real cigs don't seem to give such a great burning heavy thick, throat hit... However maybe I've been vaping so long that I've adapted so don't feel the analog, don't know really. ANY THOUGHTS?

 

[CArtVapr]

By the way, tried the 510 LR cartomizers, and they were awesome for a day or 2, and then turned to crap, don't like at all, very dissatisfied now. They are unpredictable, one minute need drips, that works once or twice but then it either leaks,or feels dry regardless, and burns or just gets stale, looses it's fresh strong feeling. I've had 6 of them do this within a week, not worth it. UGG, going to get an ego I guess, less hassle?

 

[revolver]

I certainly agree with you; you cannot feel the throat hit in an analog anymore because: you aren´t used to it anymore, but, for the most part, coz (even in most 'full flavors) it ain´t nothing compared to an e-cig. I think that is the reason why you can make it from analogs to e-cig (though, for the most part you have to adapt as in a process which could get nasty in some cases...but let´s leave that for another trhead) but it would be impossible to adapt the other way round.
I reckon we could compare moving from e-cigs to analogs to changing a regular cola drink for a diet one as to have on a regular basis; first sounds impossible and becomes a bit 'painful' maybe, but once you are done there's no turning back. Except in the long term the analogy would be different, once you have discovered the pleasures of vaping, the comparison shall be something like this: vaping is to smoking what full-colour-HD 3D futuristic cinema-scope is to the old black and white!
Yes, at first is like quitting real women for the new techno plastic droids because they are safer... But then it turns that you are done with the dilema 'humans vs. machines' and you think of everyone as part of a new category, and the winning is the more advanced 'complex-personality-system'. Ha!

 

[revolver]

PS That being said, there is an extra 'upgraded' sensation to the experience of smoking an analog which cannot be described in simple terms and is not provided by PVs!

 

[ab357]

When I first came to ecf and learned about TH, I was desperate to have it. When I posted about it, I was told I was probably lacking it because I vape 0 nic juice. I started using LR attys and purchased a 5v PT. Still no throat hit.

Following suggestions here, I've tried everything from adding PGA to even trying nic juices. Nada! Funny thing, my son who smokes Newports 100's will take a vape with whatever I'm using with even my 0 nic juice. While I never found the elusive TH, he coughs like crazy with my setups.

I came to the conclusion that TH, isn't what's most important to my vaping experience. Full bodied taste is. So... I am on an still unending search for the juices I like best. Which attys bring out the most for which juices, etc.

I "hope" my next hardware purchase will be the perfect variable voltage mod. Hopefully that will be the missing link. I'm not vaping to quit smoking BTW, I had been analog free more than a month before discovering e-cigs. I vape because I love it. I don't plan on quitting.

I don't see a health downside to it, so why not enjoy having a world of flavors I can inhale into my mouth, then lungs? The one aspect of smoking I would be mentally missing. Vaping is the ish!

 

[ab357]

I certainly agree with you; you cannot feel the throat hit in an analog anymore because: you aren´t used to it anymore, but, for the most part, coz (even in most 'full flavors) it ain´t nothing compared to an e-cig. I think that is the reason why you can make it from analogs to e-cig (though, for the most part you have to adapt as in a process which could get nasty in some cases...but let´s leave that for another trhead) but it would be impossible to adapt the other way round.
I reckon we could compare moving from e-cigs to analogs to changing a regular cola drink for a diet one as to have on a regular basis; first sounds impossible and becomes a bit 'painful' maybe, but once you are done there's no turning back. Except in the long term the analogy would be different, once you have discovered the pleasures of vaping, the comparison shall be something like this: vaping is to smoking what full-colour-HD 3D futuristic cinema-scope is to the old black and white!
Yes, at first is like quitting real women for the new techno plastic droids because they are safer... But then it turns that you are done with the dilema 'humans vs. machines' and you think of everyone as part of a new category, and the winning is the more advanced 'complex-personality-system'. Ha!

Hey, I gave up smoking and now vape. I ain't EVER giving up women.
No machine will ever replace... well this is a PG forum.

 

[Automaton]

In my first post, I said that when I smoke a cigarette, I like to feel like I've been kicked in the face. And I smoked the kind of cigarettes that give you that as much as any cigarette can - Lucky Strikes, Pall Malls, and rollies. And sometimes, I'd have any of them unfiltered... just to get kicked a little harder.

My cigarettes, which now smell like the burnt entrails of a tire filled with dead skunk to me, never gave me anywhere near the throat hit I get off my Kr8. Holy crap. And that's just a standard e-cig!

It actually took me a day or two to get used to the intensity of it. And to think, cigarettes used to do it for me. Hah!

Oh, and waffle. I have yet to meet a cigarette that comes in waffle. Again, holy crap.

 

[ab357]

I have some waffle juice on the way. I already have french toast!

 

[DaveP]

There used to be a product technical specialist with our company who would come in from Atlanta and assist with difficult technical issues from time to time. He was an occasional smoker who never bought cigarettes. His brother worked for a cigarette distributor. They had to pick up stale cigarettes that didn't sell in some period of time. Some were sent back and others were given to employees. He gave his to my coworker.

When he was working with me, we would periodically hit the smoking area and he would bum cigs from me. He'd light up an ultra light, tear the filter off, twist the end, and smoke it like an unfiltered Camel. He said that smoking my cigarettes with the filter on was like sucking air.

I was never into throat hit, so I'm not looking for a Vape that makes me cough. I'm fine with VG and a little PG. It's mostly the act of blowing out vapor that I need and the nic hit. Lately, I'm finding that 24mg is too much. I've changed to 18mg and I think I need to be at 12mg. I would probably better off at 9mg, which would allow me to vape more often. Things change.

 

[Shai]

I don't see a health downside to it, so why not enjoy having a world of flavors I can inhale into my mouth, then lungs? The one aspect of smoking I would be mentally missing. Vaping is the ish!

There is a health issue.....we don't know exactly what it does long term and in the quantities we're vaping. PG has been implicated in renal damage and failure. Your kidneys have to work harder to remove all the lactic acid that builds up due to the PG in your system. And if I remember correctly it also may affect the liver. As of yet, all we've done is traded the known effects of smoking for the unknown of vaping. Although, from my research before getting into vaping a WHO doctor characterized it as "at least 1000 times safer than smoking". Maybe, maybe not.

Never allow yourself to believe that there aren't health concerns involving this. You, me and everyone else here are the experiment. IMO, if you don't need to vape to satisfy or combat your addiction for cigarettes then you shouldn't vape. Is it a safer alternative, probably. Is it a safe alternative? Noone knows.

 

[fritos1]

Nothing is safe just read a story the other day about how sunscreen has been found to have cancer causing agents in so nothing imho is safe. keep in mind we have been ingesting pg any how for years just in other forms that is not publicized like this.

 

[Ay Dee Jay]

When I first came to ecf and learned about TH, I was desperate to have it. When I posted about it, I was told I was probably lacking it because I vape 0 nic juice. I started using LR attys and purchased a 5v PT. Still no throat hit.

Following suggestions here, I've tried everything from adding PGA to even trying nic juices. Nada! Funny thing, my son who smokes Newports 100's will take a vape with whatever I'm using with even my 0 nic juice. While I never found the elusive TH, he coughs like crazy with my setups.

I came to the conclusion that TH, isn't what's most important to my vaping experience. Full bodied taste is. So... I am on an still unending search for the juices I like best. Which attys bring out the most for which juices, etc.

I "hope" my next hardware purchase will be the perfect variable voltage mod. Hopefully that will be the missing link. I'm not vaping to quit smoking BTW, I had been analog free more than a month before discovering e-cigs. I vape because I love it. I don't plan on quitting.

I don't see a health downside to it, so why not enjoy having a world of flavors I can inhale into my mouth, then lungs? The one aspect of smoking I would be mentally missing. Vaping is the ish!

Maybe the nerve endings in your throat are worn down from analogs. I get massive TH with high nic and PG. The PG transfers heat from the atomizer very well; same reason it's used in "warming personal lubricants" and massage oils . The TH in TV TF (heh, that is, TastyFinger) kicks my ..... I get the most from a fresh 510 atomizer and just tried Highping's cleaning process on a gimpy atomizer with great success.

 

[ab357]

Maybe the nerve endings in your throat are worn down from analogs. I get massive TH with high nic and PG. The PG transfers heat from the atomizer very well; same reason it's used in "warming personal lubricants" and massage oils . The TH in TV TF (heh, that is, TastyFinger) kicks my ..... I get the most from a fresh 510 atomizer and just tried Highping's cleaning process on a gimpy atomizer with great success.

I'm thinking along the same lines. I was a heavy smoker of full flavored Kools and I had a hard draw.

 

[CArtVapr]

It's amazing how many smokers will totally BLOCK the ecig as being a great alternative, and even more, an awesome experience, cause they just don't know. Even when I let them try it I get very bad remarks such as... THIS TASTES LIKE I LIT THE END OF MY CIG, ABSOLUTE CRAP ! It's funny cause this tastes so much better than regular cigs, and they are really missing out - missing out on a whole new addiction LOL. It's like a new drug, and we are peer pressures towards people trying to convince them to try it..
As it was with me, took a good week to get used to it and realize that it was awesome. Coming from analogs, it takes a someone at least a good day or 2 to taste and feel it.
We are coming upon the time when E-cig will be so inexpensive that people can have it for that 48 hour period to experience it for next to nothing... It will spread like wildfire, and what will happen then? FDA, regulation, taxing etc... but we want it to get to that point, no? I know this is a topic on many other posts for a long time, so anyways, just wanted to say it here. I want it to expand, yet it's going to cost us for everyone else enjoying this experience, safe or not, it's a whole new "drug" so to say that is legal so far.

 

[revolver]

When it comes to smoking vs. vaping once you have become a vaper:

1. Throat hit is missing; at least a 'decent' one! Maybe it is because, in most cases, vaping makes you develop new ways to inhale and 'play' with the vapor in your mouth. Most of the times I now inhale and make a glottal stop preventing vapor from getting trough my throat to my lungs. This technique I am also going for naturally when I smoke analogs now... So, once you go for the vaping way, maybe, you are likely to be missing that TH because now you 'smoke' as you vape and have 'vaping' expectations!
2. An extra plus comes with analogs; on one hand, it is because you are taking high amounts of nic together with a million other substances which work as a combo that makes you feel the rush way faster and remember there are also anti-depressant components and other relaxing meds to it! And also the feeling which was described by Mistress as 'a kick in the face' which is simply APOXIA, a feeling caused by inhaling carbon monoxide as produced by cigarettes in paper combustion process. That is MISSING.
3. Lastly, when you are a smoker you do not feel the '....ty' taste as you dont even realise how terrible the smell of it is. The same you cannot fully appreciate an e-cig's taste and experience. But, once you are iniciated in the vaping world, then you will start taking both analogs and e-cigs for what they really are! Now I even taste the paper (which is nasty) in an analog! And my senses of smell and taste are much better now that I have kinda quit smoking, so...

And, in connection with e-cig becoming mainstream, I think it is gradually going that way, and once the 'click' is done those who look down on it now will be the first to suck on massive ....ty e-cigs (maybe they are super better and we will have to take them, heee!) and real looking ones too, and will look down on our Big 'Nasty' Mods, and so on... Until one day, maybe, THEY will start respecting; us people from the future...!
HOOoooOA!