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Discussion in 'The GG' started by imeothanasis, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    1. Finishes
    matt
    shiny




    hides bad polish work
    nothing can be hide

    doesn’t require any skills
    requires a lot of skills

    no danger to make the tube squared
    big danger for the tube to be squared

    light doesn’t reflect on it so flaws are not shown
    nothing can be hidden under light

    doesn’t make rounded corners
    it doesn’t make rounded corners too, I just want them like this to make tubes more friendly and good looking

    cheap
    expensive

    Cleaning isnt required after "polishing" job
    Cleaning is required

    2. Some people say that they prefere electronic mods because they don’t require cleaning. That’s a myth. Leave your electronic mod without cleaning the cap from where you put batteries on it or the main tube or leave uncleaned the spring and the conductivity will be worse than a mechanical mod. Also and because you cant clean all the contacts of an electronic mod like pcba contacts, conductivity can be worse than a mechanical mod (I am talking about mechanical mods that support easy way to clean contacts like GG for example)

    3. Hot spring is a spring made of a material that has low melting point like brass, copper, aluminium[/TD]

    4. Silica is not dangerous for your health because its tested. Noone can speak for sure for other materials exept a test has been done already

    5. What display shows on an electronic mod is not always what you really get

    6. If contacts of an electronic mod are dirty the display shows you the desired number of volts / watts but the current though the electronic circuit isnt the right one. So if your electronic e-cig doesnt satisfy you any more, its because it needs cleaning, otherwise you think that you vape at a specific number of volts / watts but you just dont

    7. Shined surfaces are much more resistant to oxidation than mat surfaces

    8. A telescope on an e-cig is wombling because:

    a). If 2 surfaces dont meet each other there will be always a wombling between them
    b). The less the threads that telescope has, the more the wombling.
    c). Wombling also depends on threads's quality. Bad made threads drives to more wombling and more possibility for cross threading. So the wombling in any part of a mod is not made to prevent cross threading but it will drive to a cross threading!

    9. All mods have a drop voltage and it depends mostly on the resistance we put on it. The more the resistance, the less the drop. A low resistance atomizer will drive to a big drop. Also the drop voltage depends on materials we use on connections and of course the build quality of the mod and the atomizer.

    10. We always measure drop of voltage under load. Without load we just measure the voltage of the battery. The right procedure is that we vape and we see the voltage. Then quickly we unscrew atomizer and read voltage again.

    11. Plated surfaces dont offer better but worse electrical conductivity no matter of the material we used to plate them

    12. Stucked Li-Mn batteries dont explode. The best solution is to keep them in pairs

    13. electronic devices need very good connections to work well, thats why some electronic mods allow vaper to vape for 1 hour and others for much more

    14. Two batteries in a row on electronic mods always work better than 1 battery

    15. Shined surfaces give better electrical conductivity

    16. Bottom venting holes are dangerous in case of a battery explosion because the mod will go directly to your throat

    17. Venting holes near atomizer are dangerous in case of a battery explosion

    18. letting wires getting red hot or oxidising metals and vape them is dangerous for your health. You vape oxides because you destroy the structure of the metal

    19. Use only biocompatible materials for your vaping, like titanium and maybe stainless steel. Dont use any wire around

    20. Burn taste is very dangerous for your health

    21. Big watts are required only because of a very fat wire. Keep your wires up to 0,5mm and the only you will need is 1 battery or 2 batteries in series. Bigger watts are really useless

    22. The best-healthiest wire for vaping is Zirconium
     
  2. Aron Gatt

    Aron Gatt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2012
    Malta
    THERE'S NO NEED TO REMEMBER MORE... I JUST LIKE THE GGTS :D :D :D so it's enough for me ;)
     
  3. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Great Aron!

    I am hearing nonsenses from time to time and I am always answering but better to put all the right info in one thead to find it easily
     
  4. springfieldarms

    springfieldarms Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2011
    Albuquerque
    Don't listen to them imeo. GGTS is where it's at!
     
  5. Bishopheals

    Bishopheals Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2012
    Staten Island
    Thank you Imeo for taking the time in doing this. Many new users and many more people that want to own a GG device may not know what the advance users know. Its always good to hear it from the top. Good Idea to have it posted so we can direct any current new or soon to be user.

    Good Job.
     
  6. SheerLuckHolmes

    SheerLuckHolmes Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2009
    Tempe, Az
    Imeo, how do you recommend cleaning any device? Contacts, innards, outside?
     
  7. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    The best way is to use white gasoline from a supermarket Sheer. If this is not available in your local stores then you can use nail remover or aceton
     
  8. Roszam

    Roszam Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 10, 2012
    Malta
    Would this be the same as white spirit?
     
  9. Aron Gatt

    Aron Gatt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2012
    Malta
    Not quite the same .. You can find acetone in hardware store ros !
     
  10. mrgoodwrench2u

    mrgoodwrench2u Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 18, 2012
    Toledo, Ohio . U.S.A.
    I find that regular rubbing Alcohol with 70% Isopropyl works great for cleanig and washing and what does evaporate leaves no real residue
    on the mod or the parts.

    It works great for me , however maybe 80 proof Vodka would be as good ? lol . If not , drink it !!! :) :vapor:
     
  11. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    I'll try and upload an ultimate cleaning procedure for you guys tomorrow using my home brew and my ultrasonic cleaner. Of all the things I've tried including the above I've found nothing more effective.

    A prelude to what you can do with my method is shown below in the restoration project I did on this Alu Rev1 GGTS. This thing had grime built over a few years of usage

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  12. Aron Gatt

    Aron Gatt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2012
    Malta
    That is some work there!!
     
  13. Roszam

    Roszam Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 10, 2012
    Malta
    Thank you captain, that would be awesome.
     
  14. Bishopheals

    Bishopheals Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2012
    Staten Island
    My cleaning procedure may be a little different. its very safe, what i use is hot hot water with toothpaste and toothbrush. I unscrew my whole ggts and take it completely apart. I then dip it in a Tupperware with hot water and then i take one piece at a time and use toothpaste and toothbrush to scrub and clean each part. then I place it in another Tupperware wear full of clean hot water to clean it and rinse it out. I then apply a little wax to shine the parts up. Then I proceed to use Vaseline by the threads or you can use a food grade greaser. I then put the pieces together and admire it for a few minutes before I start to set it up for a vape.

    Many ways of cleaning it this is just one of my ways.
     
  15. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    Bish a toothbrush for threads works well however I'm talking about an extreme clean for stuff that has a build up of dirt and grime over time. Especially in areas where you can't access like inside 510 connectors in top caps or inside the vent holes in the bottom cap
     
  16. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    Ultrasonic Clean of GGTS parts

    Friends as promised I'll describe my method of cleaning all my GG parts. I use an ultrasonic cleaner which you can pick up from stores or Ebay for $30-40. I fill the ultrasonic's stainless tank with a mixture of hot water dish washing liquid and white vinegar

    The approximate ratio is 3/5ths hot water 2/5ths white vinegar and a good squirt of dish washing liquid. For severe grime you can slightly increase the vinegar but make sure the water is real hot.


    Here is the ultrasonic cleaner with the parts inside before filling

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    and here it is filled with the cycle running

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    Before items and after items

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    Stealth Cap
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    GGTS engraved tube
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    Telescopes
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    GGTS Top Tube
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    GGTS Bottom Cap
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    The images here were of two of my daily use GG's which needed cleaning

    The leftovers

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    Now I know not everyone will want to spend $30-40 on an ultrasonic cleaner but truly it's a great devise to have in any home. I use it to clean jewelry and anything really which is water proof. Also 510 atties clean up great ant taste like new
     
  17. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    Ultrasonic Clean of GGTS parts

    Friends as promised I'll describe my method of cleaning all my GG parts. I use an ultrasonic cleaner which you can pick up from stores or Ebay for $30-40. I fill the ultrasonic's stainless tank with a mixture of hot water dish washing liquid and white vinegar

    The approximate ratio is 3/5ths hot water 2/5ths white vinegar and a good squirt of dish washing liquid. For severe grime you can slightly increase the vinegar but make sure the water is real hot.


    Here is the ultrasonic cleaner with the parts inside before filling

    [​IMG]

    and here it is filled with the cycle running

    [​IMG]

    Before items and after items

    [​IMG]
    Stealth Cap
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    GGTS engraved tube
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    Telescopes
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    GGTS Top Tube
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    GGTS Bottom Cap
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    The images here were of two of my daily use GG's which needed cleaning

    The leftovers

    [​IMG]

    Now I know not everyone will want to spend $30-40 on an ultrasonic cleaner but truly it's a great devise to have in any home. I use it to clean jewelry and anything really which is water proof. Also 510 atties clean up great ant taste like new
     
  18. anavidfan

    anavidfan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 14, 2012
    U.S.
    I used to use the ole toothpaste and brush to clean my jewelry, but after all the new pastes started coming out with more grit and abrasives to whiten, I was afraid to. Any brand in particular you suggest? I hate to scratch my beautiful stainless finish. Actually, I got my Ody second hand, it has light scuffs and scratches, any good suggestions to lightly buff out without wear?
     
  19. Aron Gatt

    Aron Gatt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 5, 2012
    Malta
    Ohhhh captain .... Now I need to put this on the list aswel .... I'm gonna get killed soon :lol:

    Ps: :facepalm: well I tell my missis that it's for her jewellery ! That will give me a couple of weeks alive :lol:
     
  20. Bishopheals

    Bishopheals Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2012
    Staten Island
    YO STEVE MY BOY I LOVE YOU MAN... Im going to get me one of these for sure. Pm me one you think is best and Ill buy it.
     

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