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Time for some real knowledge

Discussion in 'The GG' started by imeothanasis, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. Corona Doble

    Corona Doble Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2013
    Paris, France
    (sorry for the exotic-language intermezzo ..)
     
  2. blue_godz

    blue_godz Full Member Verified Member

    Nov 27, 2013
    expat, Germany
    Hi Corona, it definetly sounds crazy to clean the inside and the threads how you do it! but it seems to be done with such care and love for your ggs, that i am clearly looking forward for your pictures :) well to you!
     
  3. monkkx

    monkkx Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 6, 2013
    paris, abu dhabi
    wouaw, thanks! That sounds great but way too complex for me since i don't have all the tools you mention ;) Can't we improve threadings with a less sophisticated way? something like "use capcod' ;) ?
     
  4. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
  5. AdamAnd

    AdamAnd Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Ajax, Canada
    Can someone please help me respond to one of my subscribers exactly why not to heat coils before vaping He has told me that heating up the coils is a good thing to burn off the machine oil and dirt. There has been a lot of debate about this and I need an answer to put this to rest heating a coil red hot and oxidizing is bad because ? If you can answer please help I am getting to point where I don't trust my own knowledge Thanks Adam
     
  6. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    dirt and oil much be removed by soap and water Adam, exactly as you do with pans you have to your house. You dont dry burn the casseroles and your pans to clean them from oil. And if you forget the pan to the kitchen and gets very hot, you throw it away and you buy a new one

    Also burning metals produce oxides that are very dangerous for your health, especially when inhaling them.

    I dont see reasons for debating about this. Things are very clear
     
  7. AdamAnd

    AdamAnd Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Ajax, Canada
    Yes your right Imeo and I give the wire I am going to build with a wipe with dishwashing soap and water before I build just never mentioned it to anyone. Thanks Adam:vapor:
     
  8. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    This all stands but most of us if not everybody try our coils before juice just to see if they are glowing evenly.

    Tapatalked with Zoom
     
  9. Itshak

    Itshak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Sep 11, 2013
    Israel
    there is no real must for doing that.

    I try my coils now only wet with juice to see vapor production,then
    few inhels with MP only and if its vape ok,I don't care how it glows,
    I just fill the tank.
     
  10. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    put some drops of liquid first zu. Thats the right procedure. Dont harm yourself without a reason
     
  11. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    No it is to late for me haha :) and don't think it is so bad but respect all opinions

    Tapatalked with Zoom
     
  12. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    I hate to do this to you guys but oxidation occurs even with the ejuice on the coils. In fact oxidation is accelerated by the juice (just check your coil after 24hrs of vaping it). The question you should be asking yourself is what's worse, ecigs or cancer stix.
     
  13. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    I'll take my mod any day of the week :)

    Tapatalked with Zoom
     
  14. Itshak

    Itshak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Sep 11, 2013
    Israel
    I thought the point was not avoiding the oxidation as we can't but to avoid
    Inhale metal fumes?? and changing structure of metal by to high temperature???
     
  15. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    Well when you put heat with oxidation I'm not too sure what the result will be
     
  16. Itshak

    Itshak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Sep 11, 2013
    Israel
    Sure I understand and even so it's healthier then analog.
    But there maybe difference in short term 300 celsius few seconds
    To the same at 1000 celsius that can make kind of leakage of some hazardous gases or metal,
    At list that I think what Imeo post about few month earlier.
    This is a big difference in heat.

    But beside I found I don't really need it,for my setups,
    And if there maybe reason not to do this practice,then it's ok with me.

    Correct that's every few days I built new coil because of that and not change only cotton
    But it's no time so I don't mind do that like so.

    My set ups vape the same with dry burn and without.

    Also I remember way back when I used HH357,they specifically asked users not to dry burn ever.
    Don't remember I saw the reason why the ask that by they did.
     
  17. CaptSteve

    CaptSteve Airborn ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    41,000ft at M 0.85
    I agree with you about the amount of heat, it certainly makes sense that 1000c will have different effect to 300c.

    As far as the HH357's I believe they said that because dry burning could burn out the coil because they use thin kanthal wire
     
  18. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    if you have a different opinion, we can hear it buddy. Discussion is always nice:)
     
  19. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    its not oxidation Steve, its the remaining burned liquid. In fact the oils we vape protect the wire:)
     
  20. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    of course there is big difference between different celsious degrees Its. A very big one. High temperatures are used too often to change the structure of a material or its properties. Your pan is ok at 50 degrees but not at 300 degrees without oil on it
     

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