TIME magazine says: E-cigarettes do not help people quit smoking..

[Katmar]

A few of my friends went the Chantix route. It worked for one, but was hell on the others. Nightmares, nausea, mood swings, severe depression. Yet, it is advertised as a safe way to quit.

I'll take my vape anytime over that crap. Smoked for over 40 years and quit within 6 days of vaping. Never looked back.

 

[BostonVape]

I wonder if TIME even knows that ECF exists.. probably not. They are in the FDA pockets for sure..

 

[GaG8tor]

Wow.I've smoked 1 cigarette since December 3rd.I guess they really don't work.

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[Pictor]

A few of my friends went the Chantix route. It worked for one, but was hell on the others.

I recall back when Zyban was fairly new, I asked my pharmacist what his thoughts were about it - he told me not to even consider it because a colleague had begun taking them and started having seizures. Apparently, as soon as he stopped taking them, he was fine. He further went on to say that this was not the only case of adverse or dangerous side effects he knew of.
When Champix became available, I didn't even consider it.

In the past, whenever I've seriously thought about trying to cut down, I've ended up smoking more. Tried gum and found myself smoking whilst chewing it!
I stopped flying because of the ban, stopped going to restaurants or anywhere else that I was either not allowed to smoke or my slipping out for a cigarette would be met with glares of disapproval by some (they seem to be everywhere!).
Oddly enough, we went out for lunch last week, and although I had an eSmart with me, I didn't use it at all ..and it didn't bother me! Once home, we had two guests for coffee, and because I prefer not to use it where it's an object of curiosity, I waited until after they'd left before settling happily with my EVOD!

So, not only have e-cigs stopped an up to 35 a day 50 year habit, they've seemingly stopped my 'no smoking' stresses.

 

[salleh]

......it's very simple actually, the tobacco companies aren't making any money on them ,....and "Big Pharma" doesn't make any money on their stop smoking drugs .....and both have powerful lobbies, and "friends" in the media .....while the e cig is mostly a solution started by bright people who wanted to stop smoking ...all the internet sites and even the B&M shops are small ....the biggest thing in the e cig world is this forum ! .....


........and I would bet that all those e cigs are no damned good articles are written by writers who are paid either overtly or out front, by one or both of those big industries .....


.....We have to make a lot of noise, and anyone who is a writer or a scientist should do their best to publish our side of the story .....I have found an article that reviews JUST nicotine, not connected to reg. cigs, and the gist of that article is that nicotine actually has theraputic value for several groups of people ...

.......with exaggeration, misdirection, false info, made up info, and manipulating facts, they are causing city and state gov't to go all stupid and put the e cig in the same catagory as reg cigs ....and we all know how wrong that is ....

 

[Lucky1384]

I had better tell two thirds of my friends who have all quit successfully by using them, that they must immediately not believe it and go back to the smokes. Oh wait! I haven't had a cigarette in months either 8-o I'm obviously living in the matrix where even crazy stuff like this is possible.

 

[LibertariaNate]

I suppose it depends on your definition of "quit smoking". If quitting smoking equals the end of inhaling tar, smoke and the associated carcinogens, then vaping = quitting smoking. If quitting smoking equals ending the inhalation of anything other than "pure, unadulterated air" then vaping obviously doesn't fit that definition. Personally, I have quit smoking by vaping. Then I quit vaping... It only took nearly three years to get to that point, but I'm done nonetheless. Sure... I realize my story is only anecdotal, but if it weren't for e-cigs, I know I'd still be smoking analogs. Plus one to the "e-cigs help people quit smoking" column regardless of how you choose to define it.

 

[akuser47]

......it's very simple actually, the tobacco companies aren't making any money on them ,....and "Big Pharma" doesn't make any money on their stop smoking drugs .....and both have powerful lobbies, and "friends" in the media .....while the e cig is mostly a solution started by bright people who wanted to stop smoking ...all the internet sites and even the B&M shops are small ....the biggest thing in the e cig world is this forum ! .....


........and I would bet that all those e cigs are no damned good articles are written by writers who are paid either overtly or out front, by one or both of those big industries .....


.....We have to make a lot of noise, and anyone who is a writer or a scientist should do their best to publish our side of the story .....I have found an article that reviews JUST nicotine, not connected to reg. cigs, and the gist of that article is that nicotine actually has theraputic value for several groups of people ...

.......with exaggeration, misdirection, false info, made up info, and manipulating facts, they are causing city and state gov't to go all stupid and put the e cig in the same catagory as reg cigs ....and we all know how wrong that is ....

Agree 100% the money that the oposition has is endless and why it is an uphill battle we all must fight

Live free, Ride free, or Die fighting for the right to do so!

 

[Little White Cloud]

Never mind the thousands of people that have testified to using vaping to stop smoking. They are all wrong about their Own Experience. Of which the author has absolutely None. Quite an authority on the subject they Act like they are, while knowing nothing. Incredible! This is a daily practice now. Someone needs to call them out.

 

[akuser47]

I am new vaper started on mistic kit in jan 2014 but have had nothin but good things to say.

Live free, Ride free, or Die fighting for the right to do so!

 

[flaming_gnat]

A few of my friends went the Chantix route. It worked for one, but was hell on the others. Nightmares, nausea, mood swings, severe depression. Yet, it is advertised as a safe way to quit.

sorry for resurrecting an older thread, but wanted to toss this one in:

almost went the chantix route myself if it weren't for a coworker of mine. he collapsed at his girlfriend's cottage with a grand mal seizure - and has never had one in his life before and not since going off that crap. no thank you!

 

[Katmar]

sorry for resurrecting an older thread, but wanted to toss this one in:

almost went the chantix route myself if it weren't for a coworker of mine. he collapsed at his girlfriend's cottage with a grand mal seizure - and has never had one in his life before and not since going off that crap. no thank you!

Yea, I left that one out...along with headache, suicide or suicidal tendencies, and even a murder or 2 took place while taking this drug.

 

[Beretta]

TIME magazine says: E-cigarettes do not help people quit smoking..

All Truth goes through 3 stages:
First, it is ridiculed... Second, it is violently opposed... Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.

Time magazine will go down in the dustbin of history as the rag that wanted people to die from smoking tobacco cigarettes despite the self-evident truth.

On a related note, I think ecigs are in the violent (as in severe) opposition stage.

 

[Exchaner]

I see a lot of propaganda everywhere I go on behalf of the vaping establishment. They are no different from tobacco companies trying to fool everyone for years that smoking was safe. I have even seen "opinions" expressed that nicotine is NOT necessarily addictive. You can draw your own conclusions ... Vaping might be a better alternative, but it is far from safe. We won't know for years what its long-term effects are.

 

[Katmar]

I see a lot of propaganda everywhere I go on behalf of the vaping establishment. They are no different from tobacco companies trying to fool everyone for years that smoking was safe. I have even seen "opinions" expressed that nicotine is NOT necessarily addictive. You can draw your own conclusions ... Vaping might be a better alternative, but it is far from safe. We won't know for years what its long-term effects are.

To say that it is far from safe is disingenuous, imo. So far, the research says it is a much safer alternative to smoking. Many studies have been done, thus far, proving this. The safest method is no cigs and no vaping, but to say vaping is far from safe is only fueling the fires of the likes of the FDA and ANTZ.

 

[aubergine]

Chantix, yeah. I'm a retired psychotherapist and a pretty damned good diagnostician. A few years before I retired I had an extremely disturbed client who presented with really baffling symptoms - the man had clearly suffered a psychotic break of some sort but everything was atypical. Symptoms had been going on for several months, looked like schizophrenia but too much was really inconsistent. No history, either. His family was completely distraught. Turned out that he hadn't bothered to mention Chantix in the meds review and sure enough... He was fine in pretty short order once we got him off that evil stuff. There's enough on Chantix that it should have been pulled years ago.

I quit a four-decade, extremely heavy and tenacious smoking habit and have been vaping since my ECF join date; I was done with smoking about five minutes after assembling my first ecig, and never looked back. Astonishing. We're legion, and enough of us have been doing this for a fairly long time that stats will begin to emerge soon regarding somewhat longer term safety.
The (really rather moderate) risks of nicotine are well documented and easily available; consumers can make educated decisions regarding that. That leaves water vapor, glycol and whatever the effect might be of inhaling food flavorings. If there had been any demonstrable instances of serious health issues related to vaping thus far I can promise that the zealots would have found them and advertised them mightily, they're slavering for that. So at this point we can at least say that it's looking good.
I'd not promote ecigs as "safe" at this juncture, but then, I wouldn't say that about caffeine, either. (If anyone's interested and for what it's worth, I for one have been steadily chain-vaping since I started, feel great and have passed regular health exams with flying colors.)

Good one! and while I'm not an old goat, I am down from 2 PAD as a result of e-cigs lol



I tried Chantix before I found e-cigs because it was prescribed by my Dr. and paid for by my insurance....

Not only did Chantix not help me quit, I smoked more that first week I was on it, and it did put me in "altered states" (although didn't want to chop up anything or anyone...(yikes!)... but I won't get into my nightmarish details.

I truly wish I had tried e-cigs FIRST. It's unfortunate that e-cigs weren't at the top of the list for "smoking cessation" when I was looking for help to quit my 2 PAD habit.



good point as well!

 

[Exchaner]

To say that it is far from safe is disingenuous, imo. So far, the research says it is a much safer alternative to smoking. Many studies have been done, thus far, proving this. The safest method is no cigs and no vaping, but to say vaping is far from safe is only fueling the fires of the likes of the FDA and ANTZ.

I know of no scientific proof that indicates vaping is completely safe. Dismissing its potential hazards can only damage one's credibility. It plays right into the hands of FDA and ANTZ (whoever that is.) They can paint us as being in a state of denial.

 

[Exchaner]

Ooops, double post.

 

[rolygate]

Latest hard data about ecigs and smoking cessation: the success rate for smoking cessation in the UK by use of an ecig is 33%. See:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/562771-33-uk-vapers-have-quit-smoking.html

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[Pictor]

They report that there are 2.1 million UK vapers, and one-third have quit smoking by use of an ecig.

http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_891.pdf
Latest Statistics - Smoking In England

Is there anywhere to officially register that a person has actually stopped smoking because of the e-cigs? ...I certainly have and it only took a few weeks of gradually cutting down ...happened almost by accident too!