Tobacco Control uses taxpayer dollars to smear Tea Partiers

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Taxpayer dollars used to fund study tying Tea Party to tobacco lobby | Fox News

I post this link because we vapers are tangential to cigarette smokers. Folks, it doesn't matter where you may fall on the political spectrum: do you really want your tax dollars spent on such nonsense? In the ANTZ's minds, us vapers are about as evil as smokers. It's not that they'll come for us next; they're coming for us now.
 

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Taxpayer dollars used to fund study tying Tea Party to tobacco lobby | Fox News

I post this link because we vapers are tangential to cigarette smokers. Folks, it doesn't matter where you may fall on the political spectrum: do you really want your tax dollars spent on such nonsense? In the ANTZ's minds, us vapers are about as evil as smokers. It's not that they'll come for us next; they're coming for us now.
The reality is ...
There's current news not being reported in some media.
I don't think we need anymore to kinda sorta tip-toe lightly
so not to offend some ... based on the "source".
 
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The study was published earlier this month in the tobacco Control journal and was formally presented by its authors at an on-campus symposium in San Francisco Feb. 8.
Read more: Taxpayer dollars used to fund study tying Tea Party to tobacco lobby | Fox News

Unfortunately, this does not surprise me.

In the Legislative News section, I posted about the editor of the tobacco Control Journal's letter to the FDA protesting that tobacco companies were considered "stakeholders" and were being allowed to attend and speak at an FDA public hearing about conducting research on modified risk tobacco products (MRTPs). Her letter made clear that her goal is ridding the earth of all tobacco products. Therefore, no MRTPs are necessary. But yet, in the same letter she said that the goal of the public health community (and it is obvious that she considers herself a member of that community) is saving lives. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-tobacco-control-refuses-discuss-issues.html

But if there are no FDA-approved MRTPs, it's against the law for manufacturers and vendors to inform smokers that their products are lower in risk than smoking. This leave smokers where they always were with two options: quit all use of tobacco and nicotine, or die.
 

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No place to leave a comment on this part of the story:

Researcher Stanton Glantz, though, defended the federal funding.

"If you want to control cancer, you have to control smoking -- and if you want to control smoking, you have to understand how the tobacco companies operate," he said.

Read more: Taxpayer dollars used to fund study tying Tea Party to tobacco lobby | Fox News

...so I'll comment here. Hopefully the clipping service will track this down for him.

No, Dr. Glantz. If you want to control smoking, you have to understand what actually works to get smokers to stop lighting up. To understand what works, you need to listen to the former smokers who actually achieved smoking abstinence. As Judge Judy says, "Put on your listening ears!"

You keep denying that smokeless tobacco can help smokers quit, ignoring the fact that Sweden has one of the lowest lung cancer mortality rates in the EU, despite having a relatively high rate of tobacco use. But only 12% of adult Swedes smoke. A large percentage of former smokers switched to snus (a type of moist snuff) instead of obeying the "public health" mandate to achieve total abstinence from all tobacco and nicotine products.

You also keep claiming that there is no evidence that e-cigarettes can help smokers quit (inhaling smoke)--despite the growing body of evidence that e-cigarettes are far superior in the ability to help smokers quit (inhaling smoke). You derided the 5,000 personal stories left as comments to the FDA's call for comments on Section 918 of the Tobacco Act. Apparently you believe that the "e-cigarette industry" forced us to write those stories. How many personal stories were submitted by former smokers that used FDA-approved products to quit?

You can't succeed in making the public very healthy when you do your best to prohibit smokers from using the products that actually help them quit (inhaling smoke.)

In case you're wondering why I keep adding "(inhaling smoke)" after the word "quit," it's because the so-called public health community has created mass confusion by using a non-standard definition of "quit smoking." When we say it, we mean it literally--to stop the action of inhaling smoke. When you say it, you mean, "to become cured of addiction to nicotine." That's why you believe it is a health claim when someone says these products can help smokers quit, when actually it is merely a statement of obvious fact, based on personal experience and keen observation.

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Actually the Fox spin on this is wrong, its tobacco companies that are the ones being smeared not tea party people.
And whats worse is the study doesn't say what it's being said to say. All the study found was that a group formed to oppose tobacco regulation split and some of the people involved are now working within the tea party. (in as much as their is a tea party to work within, I don't think it a party at all, more a rallying point) How they got to 'research says that tea party is a tool of satanical tobacco companies' is just indicative of the lengths some people will go with dirty campaign tactics. As to Stan.. well if theirs a chance to put the boot in he will not pass the chance up.
 

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Spending our tax dollars on agenda driven propaganda is now the New Norm.
Just like the National Debt ... Of course, just mentioning either ...
is offensive to some.

Yeh, we have a paying problem not a spending problem according to some in DC.

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Yeh, we have a paying problem not a spending problem according to some in DC.
:glare:
While listening to the speech from the White House the other day ...
the word "Spending" is out ... No longer Politically Correct
Today spending should be called "Investment"

Kinda Silly !!
Some think if you change what ya call it ...
it somehow changes what it is !!
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While listening to the speech from the White House the other day ...
the word "Spending" is out ... No longer Politically Correct
Today spending should be called "Investment"

Kinda Silly !!
Some think if you change what ya call it ...
it somehow changes what it is !!
:p

You mean like if you call vapor "smoke" it magically turns into something that gives bystanders heart attacks?
 
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