Tobacco giant RJ Reynolds launches Vuse electronic cigarette - but will it be any good?

[Oliver]

Or, as they call it "Vuse Digital Vapor System" - But is it what vapers want or need?

I've written up my thoughts here: Vuse Solo and Vuse Digital Vapor System - ECF InfoZone

What do we reckon?

 

[ScottP]

I will never give RJR another dollar. I don't care how good their product is.

Especially after I watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiyWK3fzTpA

 

[volume control]

Its a stylish ?808?, but i agree, ive been done with cartos for ages now and never think twice about trying them again, especially on a cigalike. Maybe if its a carto in a tank.

 

[gthompson]

Anything I could say about Big tobacco would get me in trouble for evading the forum censors...... I'd vape the sweat rung out of my dirty socks before I'd give them a dime.

 

[tj99959]

I think that the environmental foot print that those types of devices leave behind will become our eventual downfall should they become the norm.

How many carts & batteries would we be throwing in the trash if all we had were disposables?

 

[Orobas]

I will never give RJR another dollar. I don't care how good their product is.

Especially after I watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiyWK3fzTpA

Doubly so after they've sponsored a bill that would disallow sale of e-cigarettes in north carolina unless expensive (and ultimately, probably worthless) age verification software.

Anything I could say about Big Tobacco would get me in trouble for evading the forum censors...... I'd vape the sweat rung out of my dirty socks before I'd give them a dime.

so much this. I loathe the fact that i smoked camels for so long.

 

[YoTone]

lets just hope they dump money in advertisement and packaging then lose a lot of money.

 

[stevegmu]

I think it is good tobacco companies are getting into e-cigs. They have the influence and money to change peoples' perceptions on e-cigarettes. If their products really take off, they will have something to lose and will fight for e-cigarettes. I think the BLU advertisements on tv have done a tremendous service to the vaping community. So many people don't know anything about e-cigarettes/vaping, but I'm sure they have now seen the tv ads.
I'm sure I'll try a couple just for the heck of it.

 

[Butters78]

It's good to see you Smokey Joe!

 

[Myk]

I will do my best to make sure any RJR product fails no matter how good it is, they have drawn the line in the sand with vapers on one side and them on the other.

But it's a carto, odds are it won't be any good. I for one can't stand filler.

 

[spegtoast]

I generally was turned on the vape world because it is kind of a grassroots community. DYI's and each shop making their own juice. It's not big business (yet). I am glad I started when I did, because if RJ and Blu type businesses was all I had to choose from I would probly still vape from necessity, but wouldnt be nearly as invested in it as I am now. I know it's a matter of time before the lobbiest want to get a peice of the action, but I hope it stays sort of an underground movement like it appears now.

 

[SASmith]

It's a double edged sword, big tobacco has political influence which is good for vaping, however they will try to put the little guy with
quality product out of business which is bad for vaping.

 

[spegtoast]

With joining the CSAA and developing a vape community give us the little guys the oppertunity to do the same as big tobacco could do? Kinda like the NRA?

 

[Myk]

With joining the CSAA and developing a vape community give us the little guys the oppertunity to do the same as big tobacco could do? Kinda like the NRA?

Give CASAA 142 years and 5,000,000 members and maybe it will. Unless politicians succeed in silencing those 5,000,000 members by demonizing them like they're trying and like they did to smokers. If they manage to do that nobody will be heard.

 

[AutumnWolf]

My one fear is that these products will not be any good and people will end up being turned off vaping. Yes, a lot of people will try these - simply because they are made by a big tobacco company. We all know that disposable cartos are not the way to go - but the average joe off the street won't, so when the product doesn't deliver as promised, they will just go back to smoking and then maybe never quit. Its kind of like being ripped off by one of those 'free e-cig' or mall kiosk scams - once someone gets a bad taste in their mouth (no pun intended), it is not likely that they will ever try vaping again.

And from another perspective - what if this is exactly what big tobacco wants? They offer up a sub-par product on purpose to quickly turn a lot of people against vaping...? Just speculation on my part, of course, but it does make sense...guess we will just have to wait and see how it all plays out...

 

[NotoriousJDP]

+1 for not giving BT anymore of my money.

 

[KerryK]

I didn't read your thoughts on it yet but my first instinct tells me anytime we can move mountains with our consumer dollars that is power.

Just like when Walmart started offering organic food lines, they would never have provided that healthy option had the market demand not forced them too.

 

[Cyia]

Not personally giving 1 red cent to them. Not ever again. Even if vaping fails for me I'm not returning back to analogs to kill my self slowly anymore. My only concerns echo the other's. SO many people are still uneducated about ecigs and the right ways to do it. They get so turned off by a bad experience they won't ever pick it up again.

And on the other side of the coin, I'm in fear of these massive companies dipping their wallets into the vaping scene now and snuffing out everyone they can find. Creating a black market of sorts in the future to people who really understand what vaping truly is. It's scary seeing them try and shove their way in.

 

[SissySpike]

We can see the free market system works look at whats available. Look at how fast ecigs have advanced. Thats due to a product that works. It has and is adapting to consumer needs.
If Government and or the corporate world gets involved it will not resemble what we know and enjoy today. We see ecigs as an end to a nasty addiction. They see money when they the government and corporations get involved its all about taxes, regulation (Just another form of government revenue) Or at the corporate level how can we get your money for the least amount of input on our part. Quality and value will got out of the equation.

Right now we have cheap mid priced and high end. You have a choice for what you want. Give them their way and you will have cheap for high end prices.
I say keep BT out of the ecig industry their time has passed die a slow miserable death like the consumers they killed!

 

[zoiDman]

Seems like Run-of-the-Mill Offering.

BTW - "Barbarians at the Gate" is a Fantastic Read.