I was looking forward to get my hands on a iHybrid Pure, but I now think I'll get a VUSE instead!
This is a game-changing product in the e-cigarette category
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I was looking forward to get my hands on a iHybrid Pure, but I now think I'll get a VUSE instead!
I'm hoping it's as game changing as the "Premier" was. BT will put more money into stomping out competitors as it will on the actual product. And by competitors I mean the very thing we enjoy. Can't very well make any money off of something that I can so easily obtain a cheaper, better, more enjoyable version of. They can't succeed by just competing with Blu and other cigalikes. With BT it's always been all or nothing. They are massive corporations with fingers in all sorts of pies. They aren't going to settle for just the cigalike market. They will hook us and then remove all choice. We will all be back to Camels and Reds, we will just have to recharge them 17 times a day. I apologise for getting all preachy, but BT has always been "in it to win it" and they have shown time and time again that they will sink to the lowest levels to win.
I would fear ciga-likes from BT. We already have a good example of what they did with a bit of crushed tobacco in a paper with adding all sorts of chemicals, tar and other matter. Now they are going to produce something like their own analog product and make it digital to attract back those that have left for vaping. What will they add into their 'juice to make it taste like their analogs?
I tried nJoy's back before I discovered ego's etc and it was a failed attempt to switch - they lead me rigt back to smoking analogs but I never tried Blu or the others for that reason. nJoy definately had their problems - at least with the rechargable ones.
I tried nJoy's back before I discovered ego's etc and it was a failed attempt to switch - they lead me rigt back to smoking analogs but I never tried Blu or the others for that reason. nJoy definately had their problems - at least with the rechargable ones.
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Maby we will be able to choose our mix ratio:
Welcome to camel vape. Com
Camel ejuice. Choose your base
TAR: ?
BENZEN: ?
CYANIDE: ?
and so on for 5000 compounds.
I find it funny that there is already a section made here on ECF for this "game changer" while other, more popular products (THAT ARE ALREADY RELEASED BTW) either don't have their own section, or it took forever for the section to be made. Now ECF gives BT's game ender it's own dedicated section at such a early point?
Yeah.... nothing odd about that.
Yeah.... nothing odd about that.
Someone posted this in another thread I copied it in note pad for later info. In case I felt like having an analog, lol.
Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes:
Ingredient, Percentage (max), purpose
Acetanisole 0.001 Flavor
Acetic Acid 0.001 Flavor
Acetoin <0.0001 Flavor
Acetophenone <0.0001 Flavor
2-Acetylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
2-Acetyl Thiazole 0.001 Flavor
Ammonium Alginate 1.15 Formulation Aid
Ammonium Hydroxide 0.08 In Process pH Adjuster, Flavor
Amyris Oil <0.0001 Flavor
trans-Anethole 0.001 Flavor
Anisaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Ascorbic Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal 0.001 Flavor
Benzyl Alcohol 0.025 Flavor, Solvent
Benzyl Cinnamate 0.001 Flavor
Brown Sugar 2.9 Casing
n-Butyl Isovalerate 0.001 Flavor
Butyric Acid <0.001 Flavor
Caramel (Plain) 0.13 Flavor
Caramel Color 0.01 Flavor
Carbon11.77 Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Carbon Dioxide Not Detectable Processing Aid
Cardamon Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Carob Bean Extract 0.095 Flavor
Carrot Seed Oil Terpeneless 0.001 Flavor
l-Carvone 0.025 Flavor
Cellulose Fiber 6.31 Formulation Aid
Chicory Extract 0.01 Flavor
Chocolate Liquor 0.27 Casing
Cinnamon Bark Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Citric Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Citronella Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Clary Sage Oil 0.001 Flavor
Cocoa (Extract, Powder, Extractive, Distillate) 1.84 Casing, Flavor
Coffee Beans, Ground 0.01 Flavor
Coffee Extract 0.065 Flavor
Coriander Oil 0.001 Flavor
Corn Syrup 0.025 Flavor
beta-Damascenone <0.0001 Flavor
beta-Damascone 0.01 Flavor
delta-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
gamma-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
Diammonium Phosphate 0.75 Flavor
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-one 0.001 Flavor
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Acetate 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Alcohol 0.298Flavor
Ethyl Benzoate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Butyrate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Caproate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Cyclotene <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Heptanoate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Lactate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Levulinate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Maltol 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Pentanoate 0.001Flavor
Ethyl Phenylacetate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Vanillin 0.025Flavor
Ethyl-2-Methylbutyrate 0.01Flavor
2-Ethyl-3,5(or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone <0.0001Flavor
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
Eucalyptol 0.01Flavor
Fenugreek Extract0.001Flavor
Fenugreek Seed0.01Flavor
Fig Juice Concentrate0.34Casing
Furaneol0.01Flavor
Geraniol<0.0001Flavor
Geranium Bourbon Oil<0.0001Flavor
Geranyl Acetone0.01Flavor
Glucose0.001Flavor
Glycerides, mixed decanoyl and octanoyl1.92Flavor
Glycerol11.12Humectant
Graphite3.34Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Guar Gum1.8Formulation Aid
gamma-Heptalactone0.001Flavor
Hexanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Hexyl Acetate0.01Flavor
High Fructose Corn Syrup4.49Casing
Honey2.38Casing
Immortelle Extract0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Acetate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Isovalerate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isobutyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isovaleraldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Isovaleric Acid<0.0001Flavor
Lactic Acid0.025Flavor
Lemon Oil, Terpeneless0.001Flavor
Licorice0.74Casing, Flavor
Licorice Extract Powder0.01Flavor
Lime Oil0.001Flavor
Linalool0.001Flavor
Linalyl Acetate0.001Flavor
Lovage Root0.001Flavor
Maltol0.01Flavor
Mandarin Oil0.001Flavor
Mate Extract<0.0001Flavor
Menthol3.17Flavor
l-Menthone0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-3-Methyl-Pyrazine0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol0.001Flavor
2-Methyl Pentanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Methyl Salicylate0.001Flavor
Methyl-2-Pyrrolyl Ketone0.001Flavor
6-Methyl-3,5-Heptadien-2-one0.001Flavor
4-Methylacetophenone0.001Flavor
2-Methylbutyric Acid0.001Flavor
Methylcyclopentenolone0.01Flavor
2-Methylpyrazine0.001Flavor
3-Methylvaleric Acid0.001Flavor
Myrrh Extract<0.0001Flavor
Myrrh Oil0.001Flavor
Neroli Bigarade Oil<0.0001Flavor
Nerolidol<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Nonalactone<0.0001Flavor
Octanoic Acid<0.0001Flavor
Orange Oil0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Sweet Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orris Root Extract0.001Flavor
2,3-Pentanedione0.001Flavor
Peppermint Oil, Terpeneless0.05Flavor
Peru Balsam Oil0.001Flavor
Phenylacetic Acid0.001Flavor
Phenylethyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Phenylethyl Alcohol<0.0001Flavor
alpha-Pinene0.01Flavor
beta-Pinene0.01Flavor
Piperonal0.01Flavor
Potassium Carbonate2.07Flavor
Potassium Sorbate0.001Preservative
Propyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Propylene Glycol1.9Solvent, Humectant, Flavor
Prune Juice Concentrate0.47Casing
Rose Oil Turkish0.001Flavor
Rosemary Oil<0.0001Flavor
Salicylic Aldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow<0.0001Flavor
Sodium Carbonate0.18Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Sodium Citrate<0.0001Flavor
Spearmint Oil0.38Flavor
Sucrose2.13Casing
Tangerine Oil, Terpeneless0.01Flavor
alpha-Terpineol<0.0001Flavor
Terpinyl Acetate0.001Flavor
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline0.001Flavor
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
Triethyl Citrate0.001Flavor
2,6,6-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexene-1, 4-Dione<0.0001Flavor
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
delta-Undecalactone<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Undecalactone0.01Flavor
Vanilla Oleoresin0.01Flavor
Vanillin0.05Flavor
Veratraldehyde0.001Flavor
WaterNASolvent, Processing Aid, Humectan
Pick your mix
Think so? I'd almost take that bet. I think cigarette companies underestimate how satisfied many vapers are. BT rode into popularity with radio and television from a time when brand loyalty was more important than it is now. We will have a better view of the big picture in a couple years. Once the market becomes saturated and the rise in e-cig popularity wears out, we'll see how good BT fares in the vaping world. It's easy for just about any company to make a cig-a-like and be successful selling it right now because a lot of people are still making the switch. There's plenty of new fish, and as long as everyone tries a cig-a-like at first it'll look successful. After that, companies will have to rely more on return customers than new ones, and BT's pithy attempt to get into the market will be punished.
Man, if I was a BT company, I'd do this right. Could you imagine what Joytech would become if it had the marketing $$$ of Blu on top? I'd market a PV that has a real chance of satisfying a smoker, sell it at a competitive price, advertise the beans out of it, and run circles around Blu and Vuse and... whatever the next company calls a cig-a-like. I'd get people past the cigarette/cig-a-like mentality by making commercials with people using eGo-sized batteries. I wouldn't dig my own hole by promising that a tiny battery with a bit of juice-soaked fluff is going to do what a pack of analogs can.
Well butter my but an' call me a biscuit, I thought you were joking!
I personally would have no problem purchasing either a pv or juice from BT companies, as long as they were products worth buying. BT's aim with real cigarettes is to make a cigarette people will smoke. They try to make it stronger, and taste better. We as individuals all made the choice, knowing full well the risks, to begin smoking. You can't blame BT anymore than you can blame Mcdonald's for making people fat. People need to take some responsibility and realize they made the choice, what's worse, someone who sells a deadly product to people, or the people who willfully ingest a deadly product knowing the risk?
BT could sell straight, pure, unadulterated chopped tobacco inside a cellulose wrapper with no fire ......ant chemicals and people would STILL smoke. The source of the problem is people's choices to begin smoking, not BT's business model or product.
Just my two cents of course, and I mean no offense to anyone that feels otherwise, as I can and do understand and respect that opinion.
And yeah, I'm still baffled why there is a dedicated section for this product.... very strange to say the least.
BT could sell straight, pure, unadulterated chopped tobacco inside a cellulose wrapper with no fire ......ant chemicals and people would STILL smoke. The source of the problem is people's choices to begin smoking, not BT's business model or product.
Just my two cents of course, and I mean no offense to anyone that feels otherwise, as I can and do understand and respect that opinion.
And yeah, I'm still baffled why there is a dedicated section for this product.... very strange to say the least.
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I also thought you were joking and I went and looked. There it is unbelievable.
Before we all lose faith in ECF, much like the Blu forum, I think it's in anticipation of newbies filling the boards with Vuse questions.
Dirty laundry isn't fun to look at and no one likes it, but it's still worth buying a hamper to keep it out of the middle of the room, right?
It's so you can make your own mates! Just mix 5 parts base and 1 part mate extract, and BOOM! New "mates"!
It's for literally making friends. You could buy yours in a store instead, but it's cheaper to make them yourself.
But it's not even on the market yet. Well maybe Colorado if they did release it there.
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