Tobacco-Related Deaths

[Heavyrocker]

More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.

vaping=zero/yr
tobacco=50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States.

CDC - Fact Sheet - Tobacco-Related Mortality - Smoking & Tobacco Use

 

[tj99959]

That's screwy, and simply twists statistics to serve a purpose. There isn't a single person in the US that isn't going to die someday, and more will die from causes related to the excessive use of salt & sugar in one day than those that are tobacco related in a year. (see I can twist statistics to make a point too)

 

[schotzky]

As bill hicks once put it.
"Non-smokers die EVERYDAY! Sleep tight. You see, I know you entertain some sort of eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, and let me be the first to pop that bubble and send you hurdling back to reality, you're dead too."

 

[alisa1970]

Yep. While I admire the OP's zeal for a healthier lifestyle (as I'm sure we all have now that we've started vaping), the way the statistics are gathered has ANTZ written all over it.

Die of pneumonia but lived with a smoker? Smoking related death.
How about asthma in a smoking household? Absolutely smoking related.
Heart attack by an ex-smoker of less than 5 years? Uh-huh.

High BP,
Diabetes,
Stroke,


These conditions can all be considered as a "smoking related death" if you're a smoker, or even if you only lived with a smoker and didn't smoke yourself.


Puts kind of a different twist on things, doesn't it?

 

[gully]

As bill hicks once put it.
"Non-smokers die EVERYDAY! Sleep tight. You see, I know you entertain some sort of eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, and let me be the first to pop that bubble and send you hurdling back to reality, you're dead too."

I miss Bill

 

[iceman68]

One of my favorite sayings: Eat well, stay fit and die anyway.

 

[Heavyrocker]

That's screwy, and simply twists statistics to serve a purpose. There isn't a single person in the US that isn't going to die someday, and more will die from causes related to the excessive use of salt & sugar in one day than those that are tobacco related in a year. (see I can twist statistics to make a point too)

It dont list obesity on the list'' (human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined).,fatty food kill more than smoking does.


Smoking has long been considered the greatest modifiable risk factor affecting longevity and quality of life, but it looks like obesity may now be an even greater threat to the health of Americans.

In the the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers from Columbia University and The City College of New York calculate that the quality of life and years lost due to obesity are now equal to or greater than those lost due to smoking.


http://healthnews.ediets.com/health-topics/obesity-more-dangerous-than-smoking.html

 

[alisa1970]

It will never end, there will always be "do-gooders" trying to socially engineer a perfect society. Perhaps being a busy-body can be proven harmful to your health, and we can legislate that out of existence, too.

 

[AgentAnia]

It will never end, there will always be "do-gooders" trying to socially engineer a perfect society. Perhaps being a busy-body can be proven harmful to your health, and we can legislate that out of existence, too.

I for one am living proof that ANTZ and do-gooders in general will raise blood pressure and cause intense headaches and nausea. Ban them! Ban them to a mountain top where the only one who can hear their hysterical rants are bears and bigfoot.

 

[AgentAnia]

If memory serves, there was a recent article stating that the costs to the US healthcare system attributable to obesity have exceeded the costs attributable to smoking.

 

[schotzky]

I miss Bill

Of course I removed some of the expletives for the sake of the mods

 

[gully]

Of course I removed some of the expletives for the sake of the mods

Now I miss Bill and his cussing

 

[Glen Snyder]

That's screwy, and simply twists statistics to serve a purpose. There isn't a single person in the US that isn't going to die someday, and more will die from causes related to the excessive use of salt & sugar in one day than those that are tobacco related in a year. (see I can twist statistics to make a point too)

Well you know what they say, "There's lies, there's d____ed lies and then there's statistics".

 

[grandmato5]

Since my mother's death a few years ago I see those statistics in an entirely different way then I used to.

My mother died from a combination of respiratory ailments at the age of 94. On her death certificate the doctor stated that she had been a smoker. Therefore she would be within the stats of someone dying from having been a smoker. My mother never smoked one cigarette her entire 94 years of life. Due to her lifestyle and that of the majority of people she spent time with all of those 94 years she spent extremely little time her entire life being in the presence of anyone smoking. I never once smoked in her presence my entire smoking life.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to how accurate those statistics are as I'm sure the doctor signing her death certificate isn't the only one making assumptions simply upon the cause of someones death.

 

[Robino1]

Since my mother's death a few years ago I see those statistics in an entirely different way then I used to.

My mother died from a combination of respiratory ailments at the age of 94. On her death certificate the doctor stated that she had been a smoker. Therefore she would be within the stats of someone dying from having been a smoker. My mother never smoked one cigarette her entire 94 years of life. Due to her lifestyle and that of the majority of people she spent time with all of those 94 years she spent extremely little time her entire life being in the presence of anyone smoking. I never once smoked in her presence my entire smoking life.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to how accurate those statistics are as I'm sure the doctor signing her death certificate isn't the only one making assumptions simply upon the cause of someones death.

She becomes a part of the stats through the lying of a doc on a death certificate yet she lived to be 94(!). How old do you think she might've lived to be if she wasn't a ....ahem....'smoker' in their eyes? Good God that is some twisted logic!

I think ECF is bad for my health. My blood pressure is raised daily by all the eye opening threads I read. Before ECF, I was blissfully unaware of all the BS crap that was happening. Oh, but then it really wouldn't have bothered me if I had never smoked. I wouldn't have found vaping ergo I wouldn't have found ECF. Twisted logic indeed.

 

[oxygen thief]

Smoking will kill you but it's not about just that. Before I quit last year I could hardly do anything without wheezing, coughing, and breathing sucked. I'm 59, brother 63 and mother 73.
I was by my mothers bedside and two years ago my brothers. Though I feel better vaping, I have 80 pack years smoking and THAT will kill you. Or COPD. Vaping doesn't erase what smokers have done to themselves. Your first clues are weight loss and pneumonia.
Go look at the faces of lung cancer site. Steps down from podium.

 

[zoiDman]

That's screwy, and simply twists statistics to serve a purpose. There isn't a single person in the US that isn't going to die someday...

Statically, there is a 96.4% chance you are Correct.

 

[zoiDman]

More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.

Vaping=zero/yr
Tobacco=50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States.

CDC - Fact Sheet - Tobacco-Related Mortality - Smoking & Tobacco Use

Why do you think the CDC would Compile Statistics such as this?

 

[Steam Turbine]

Vaping=zero/yr
Tobacco=50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States.

CDC - Fact Sheet - Tobacco-Related Mortality - Smoking & Tobacco Use

You do know that vaping as only been around for a few years right?