Tobacco surcharge may be applied to ecigarettes

[nomore stinkies]

I have read numerous articles on tobacco surcharges. This is getting out of control! I hope you can open this link. It starts out about Walmarts policy but ends up talking about the FDA considering labelling ecigs as a tobacco product. I think we may be better off calling it a smoking cessation aid otherwise we will be considered "smokers". I think this would be the lesser of the two evils. They got me off cigarettes. My company charges my husband and I $50,00 per pay period and this will go up to $35.00 next year. They consider ANY NRT (gum, patch) a tobacco product and will keep charging us until we give it up for 6 months. And I thought I would be saving money by giving up the stinkies.....So I think it should be a smoking cessation aid. Comments?


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[Bunnykiller]

I get my nicotine strictly from eggplants...

 

[nomore stinkies]

Yeah just wait..... they will add eggplants on their list of tobacco products and charge us another 50 bucks.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

At the point where eJuice is taxed heavier than other tobacco products, I imagine someone will bring a lawsuit. IMO

 

[KAI789]

I haven't faced anything like that in Tennessee yet, but then, there's a bit of legislation up to make e-cigs and the various offshoots (juices, ect.) exempt from tobacco tax. Seems small, but it's a huge step in terms of the idea of e-cigs not being considered a tobacco product at all

 

[HDMontana]

You must work for home depot or have the same insurance. That is their policy also.

HD.

 

[Stosh]

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[NineToez]

Many states are having a tough time that want to tax e-liquid as a tobacco product because technically and legally, they're manufactured and not farmed like tobacco is. What I can't understand is why be so "pro tax" when they have yet to first pass regulation to deter sales to minors, which would actually be a positive thing. Oh, I forgot, it's about the money, Lebowski!

 

[kteto]

Seriously i wouldnt mind if they charge tobacco tax..but the place im staying has ban e cig..

 

[Migriffin]

Passing such a law would be very imposing upon people. I imagine it would be a very long and length process the FDA will not pursue for the next five to ten years

 

[RosaJ]

Do some research here and the website for CASAA. There was already a legal case that an ecig company won in which the judge ruled that ecigs are not medicinal products but they're a tobacco product and that's the only way the FDA can regulate.

If ecigs had been declared a medicinal or smoking cessation product they would be banned immediately and the FDA would require ecig companies to jump through hoops which would take years of medical studies to come into the market.

 

[Katya]

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[djsvapour]

.....So I think it should be a smoking cessation aid. Comments?

On the face of it; a good idea.

In reality, making e-cigs a smoking cessation product will hand e-cigs over to the Pharmaceutical and Tobacco industry(s). (as the product will need medical licenses). This would make e-cig cartomizers (refills) incredibly expensive and put small e-cig business out of business.

They wanted to do this in the UK (Europe) - it failed. Thank goodness too.... as I don't want to buy $10 refills.

 

[KAI789]

Going back to the original point of the thread since I deviated, I can see why there would be a pro to e-cigs being a smoking cessation aid product, but in long terms, what does that mean for us?

 

[djsvapour]

Going back to the original point of the thread since I deviated, I can see why there would be a pro to e-cigs being a smoking cessation aid product, but in long terms, what does that mean for us?

For us (me), it would mean incredibly expensive e-cigs, controlled by the Pharma and Tobacco industry.
Actually, let's not mince words here. The only products left on the market would be single-use cartomizers.
We already know that cartomizer e-cig companies LIE about the products and indeed, Tobacco companies are already LYING about their products.

If we could have BOTH, (regulated med products vs. consumer vaping products) I would accept that position.

There is already a product in the UK which is rumoured to be good enough for medical approval. It is £5.99 for one "unit"....
That little e-cig (under lab testing) offers 11.6mg of liquid to the user. That would be a yeild (after vaping) of less than half a pack of cigarettes. I would need TWO of those to match my 2ml a day liquid use.

£4,372 per year. $7,200. (US).

How does that sound? Attractive proposition?

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I take every opportunity to write a letter to one of the State's newspapers, legislators also for that matter. Bummer is when they have a 150 word maximum. Most are in the 300-400 area.

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[wv2win]

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[215Z]

Hi I am new here.

I don't understand how people think they can regulate this as a practical matter?

Mechanical mods are simple devices people can turn and lathe in a machine shop (or a garage worthy of envy).
People are going to be steeping nic juice in the homes.

How are they going to stop that? How are they going to say I need to type-approve (fcc or faa term, I don't know what it is for fda regulated products) a mech mod but not say, a torchlight, which is essentially identical to a mech mod save for the top-cap.

What if someone sold a mech mod bundled with a 510-threaded LED light-head, will he be put in jail for selling a torchlight disguised as a medical device?

This all sounds scary, and would require a very heavy-handed government, and very compliant society, to enforce these regulations. They would go that far just for some $$$?

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Vaping should remain a recreational industry.

If shown to be harmful I could support an additional tax that is directly proportional to the harm it causes the public, assuming this harm can be proven and quantified.

At this point no harm has been proven or quantified that would result in a measurable additional tax beyond standard sales tax.

Maurice

 

[Talyon]

Vaping should remain a recreational industry.

If shown to be harmful I could support an additional tax that is directly proportional to the harm it causes the public, assuming this harm can be proven and quantified.

At this point no harm has been proven or quantified that would result in a measurable additional tax beyond standard sales tax.

Maurice

Agreed Maurice, I'd go with that.

Which is why nothing has happened yet, because they can't prove Vapeing is unsafe, and as long as cigarettes are still legal.

This is why they are trying the BS kids crap etc. If they can at least demonize it in most of the public eye they can justify Sin Taxing, at least until brought before a Court of Law.