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Will do.
I got a black one too. I feel that a lot of us will get it this week. But not me, it takes few more days to get stuff from USA to Canada
I have the Zgripper in hand! First impression: This is a very, very well-made device. Granted I've never held a genuine ZNA so I don't have any real benchmark for quality, but the machining on every part of this device is top-notch. This is my first dna-style device, so I'm still familiarizing myself with the features, but it appears to have all the same functionality as other dna clone boards I've read about. Power-on screen reads "Tobeco ZNA 36." So far I've used it with a KFL @ .9 and a Magma @ .4 with no issues. vaping on the Magma right now at 36 watts and this thing is really cranking out some serious power! Honestly 36 watts is a little much for me. 22-25 seems to be my comfort zone.
I'll post some pics and specs later tonight. So far, this one's a definite keeper!
I'll post some pics and specs later tonight. So far, this one's a definite keeper!
Shot of the packaging. A nice gift box, color manual (that is surprisingly not terribly ridden with Chinglish), and cushioned insert for the device.
Buttons are firm and clicky. Fire button only actuates from the side.
Love the form factor! Fits nicely in my average-large hands. No sharp edges to ruin the experience. The tube is a nice satin/sandlblasted finish and feels great in the hand. Finish on the steel and aluminum is practically flawless.
OLED is crisp and bright. My meter confirms that voltage to atomizer is accurate and consistent with a 1 ohm load. Will do some more testing tomorrow with sub-ohm builds.
Those of you with one of these on the way are in for a real treat (assuming Tobeco's QA is solid). Any questions, fire away!
Oh, the 510 pin is copper and adjustable one-way. There is a spring-loaded delrin plate with a copper insert underneath the top cap that adjusts for atomizer 510 length (it flush fits the Magma's enormous 510 with ease), so I don't expect any problems getting any atomizer on this baby.
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Cool.
Because I use Clearos when I'm Out and About. And 7W on them is right on the Edge of getting a Dry Hit.
Being able to dial Back Slightly from 7W would be Great.
I'll swipe one of my girlfriend's Vivi's when she's not looking later and give it a shot for ya.
That would be Very Cool.
It's Funny in a World where people are looking for More and More and MORE watts. But there are Many who do Like Lower Watt Vaping.
This Thread is a Great Example of it...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/601111-eleaf-istick.html
I know 2 people who vape all day every day between 6-8 watts. That's a very economical vape. It's easy to forget how much more juice I'm blowing through than I used to, but high-performance RTA's pretty much require high power to function as designed. It took 3 pulls to flood my poor KFL at 5 watts, for instance. 
Found an Aspire BDC I've been looking for a reason to try out and it fires just fine at 5W (1.8 ohms).
Found an Aspire BDC I've been looking for a reason to try out and it fires just fine at 5W (1.8 ohms).
I know 2 people who vape all day every day between 6-8 watts. That's a very economical vape. It's easy to forget how much more juice I'm blowing through than I used to, but high-performance RTA's pretty much require high power to function as designed. It took 3 pulls to flood my poor KFL at 5 watts, for instance.
Found an Aspire BDC I've been looking for a reason to try out and it fires just fine at 5W (1.8 ohms).
That sounds Great.
Now if VT would get this Back in stock, I could think about Getting One.
How does the Finish seem on it? Black was going to be My Choice also.
The finishing on the tube is identical to that of my satin silver ProVari. The tube is flawless. There is a minor ding on one of the edges of the fire button, and a couple of *very* minor imperfections on the aluminum assembly that were obviously there before the anodization. The anodizing itself is perfect. There is no gap between the tube and chip housing portions as I've seen with some of the other ZNA clones. Running my thumb along the bottom of the device, I can barely detect the seam at all.
And now for some bad news: As predicted, I'm experiencing some inconsistencies with the chip's performance, but only with my Origen and Magma (.5 and .4 respectively). All my Kayfuns are around 1 ohm, and they're doing fine. Need another day to pinpoint exactly what's going on. Basically, I'm getting a huge drop in voltage output when my battery dips below ~3.8v with low resistance atomizers. I'll use a KFL all day tomorrow to see if the problem is unique to sub-ohm builds. Also, the sleep function doesn't appear to work in the way the manual describes it. It will only sleep after 15 seconds of no activity if the device is locked. If unlocked, it takes 2 minutes to enter sleep mode.
I'm far more concerned about the power loss at this point, though.
And now for some bad news: As predicted, I'm experiencing some inconsistencies with the chip's performance, but only with my Origen and Magma (.5 and .4 respectively). All my Kayfuns are around 1 ohm, and they're doing fine. Need another day to pinpoint exactly what's going on. Basically, I'm getting a huge drop in voltage output when my battery dips below ~3.8v with low resistance atomizers. I'll use a KFL all day tomorrow to see if the problem is unique to sub-ohm builds. Also, the sleep function doesn't appear to work in the way the manual describes it. It will only sleep after 15 seconds of no activity if the device is locked. If unlocked, it takes 2 minutes to enter sleep mode.
I'm far more concerned about the power loss at this point, though.
I have one in hand as well. Waited quite a bit of time for it (as other people have mentioned).
First impressions: solid build/heavy in hand. Feels about the same weight as a true ZNA.
I built out a 1.3 ohm coil on a Quasar (single coil) and tested. Cranked up at 36W. Only goes up to 5.5v where on my authentic Hana it reads 6.3v @ 30w. Not sure what is going on there. Also, I'm not crazy about the "adjustable" 510 cap. It's a spring under a metal plate and there is a weld mark on the cap for the negative wire (i assume).
Lastly, even at lower voltages, the voltage itself is jumping. It reads in the 1/2 volt range for half a second, then steadily jumps up to the voltage you are requesting. Very odd (and you can see it on the screen as you're firing).
First impressions: solid build/heavy in hand. Feels about the same weight as a true ZNA.
I built out a 1.3 ohm coil on a Quasar (single coil) and tested. Cranked up at 36W. Only goes up to 5.5v where on my authentic Hana it reads 6.3v @ 30w. Not sure what is going on there. Also, I'm not crazy about the "adjustable" 510 cap. It's a spring under a metal plate and there is a weld mark on the cap for the negative wire (i assume).
Lastly, even at lower voltages, the voltage itself is jumping. It reads in the 1/2 volt range for half a second, then steadily jumps up to the voltage you are requesting. Very odd (and you can see it on the screen as you're firing).
Man... I sure Hope that there Isn't a Problem with your Zgripper.
Because it is a Complete Drag to wait and wait and Wait to get Something. And then get it and there is a Problem.
Me too, still waiting on mine to ship from Vaportekusa. But I guess that's the risk we take when pre-ordering an untested device.
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I'll keep my Fingers Crossed for you also.
BTW - When about did you place your order?
Sept 5th. I ordered the green one. Sounds like the black and maybe the silver ones came in first. [emoji30]
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Sadly I'm going to have to report that the chip in this device is not good. I'm experiencing the same power loss today with my 1 ohm KFL as I did last night with my drippers. When the battery drops below ~3.8v, the device can not maintain output at a power setting above ~16 watts. As the battery continues to drain, the available power output decreases in kind.
I've tested this with a fairly new Sony VTC4 and an even newer (less than a dozen charge cycles) LG HE2 to rule out any battery issues. If Tobeco had charged 20 bucks more and went with the YiHi instead of whatever's in this, they'd have a real winner IMO.
On the bright side, it looks like it's going to be a breeze to get an Evolv board into this and it was still cheap enough that I don't mind the little bit of extra effort. I'm entertaining the idea of contacting Zen's people (HoH has their "Send in the clones!" service) and seeing what sorts of modifications they can make to it. I'm also curious if the threading is Z2 specs.
I've tested this with a fairly new Sony VTC4 and an even newer (less than a dozen charge cycles) LG HE2 to rule out any battery issues. If Tobeco had charged 20 bucks more and went with the YiHi instead of whatever's in this, they'd have a real winner IMO.
On the bright side, it looks like it's going to be a breeze to get an Evolv board into this and it was still cheap enough that I don't mind the little bit of extra effort. I'm entertaining the idea of contacting Zen's people (HoH has their "Send in the clones!" service) and seeing what sorts of modifications they can make to it. I'm also curious if the threading is Z2 specs.
That Doesn't sound good at all.
I would Contact VT ASAP. I thought I read Somewhere on their Site that a Buyer had to Contact them in 5 Days if they get something Wacked from VT.
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