Tool for thin wires

[Pgltz]

Hi.
I like my vape cool, so I aim for big resistance. I also like tc, so I use ss.
I bought the coil master diy kit v3. But I can only make it work with 26g, not 28 which I prefer. Am I doing anything wrong?
I HAVE moved the small screws closer to the pin...
Or are there other tools suitable for thin wires?

 

[Zaryk]

I don't use the winder part of the coil jig. I install the jig into the handle, and wind the coils by hand around the jig. I get tighter coils that way, and I can control the outcome better, and I can make a spaced coil with thin wire much easier too.

 

[Pgltz]

That's also how I ended doing it. But I am certainly not good at it. My coils get far too spaced. I wind as tight I can, and push the coil together, but with a bad result. Maybe I just have too many thumbs
I think I will try Inowire, it's got a higher resistance than normal ss.

 

[stols001]

Well, some gauges of wire are pretty hard to work with. What material is it, some wire can be extra springy and can benefit from a quick torching as it were. I think maybe trying that with your 28 gauge wire may help. Some of it is just practice.

I use the one half of the coil jig from coilmaster and wrap spaced coils. Somehow, "Even tension on the wire," translated well from learning to kit as a kid. Even tension on the wool sort of translated well (for me). Heck if I want a contact coil, I will wind a spaced one and then squish it after I'm done. Etc.

Best of luck, keep at it and seriously anneal your 28 gauge wire first. You may find it makes a significant difference. You can use a BLOWTORCH (my question here is why would anyone ever USE anything else, LOL) or a gas stove and etc.

Good luck.

Anna

 

[Pgltz]

Well, some gauges of wire are pretty hard to work with. What material is it, some wire can be extra springy and can benefit from a quick torching as it were. I think maybe trying that with your 28 gauge wire may help. Some of it is just practice.

I use the one half of the coil jig from coilmaster and wrap spaced coils. Somehow, "Even tension on the wire," translated well from learning to kit as a kid. Even tension on the wool sort of translated well (for me). Heck if I want a contact coil, I will wind a spaced one and then squish it after I'm done. Etc.

Best of luck, keep at it and seriously anneal your 28 gauge wire first. You may find it makes a significant difference. You can use a BLOWTORCH (my question here is why would anyone ever USE anything else, LOL) or a gas stove and etc.

Good luck.

Anna[/QUOTE

 

[Pgltz]

Thanks for the advice! I'll try that.
I also guess it could be funny for my torcher to be involved in other things than creme brulée

 

[Izan]

Thanks for the advice! I'll try that.
I also guess it could be funny for my torcher to be involved in other things than creme brulée

Not funny..Functional.
Use that €30+ tool more often.
I vape everyday.
The Catalan Cream only gets made a few times a year. (wife and kids love the nasty stuff)

Cheers
I

 

[score69]

Yep, torch the wire first. As @Zaryk mentioned, you can get a nice tight coil doing it by hand.

Torch the wire. Then instead of holding the end of the wire you're winding around the jig, use your thumb and index finger to hold it tightly around the jig and spin it that way. This way the pressure in wrapping around the jig is doing the same thing as the tool does, you can get better control doing it with your thumb and index finger actually.

You can even tape the end of the wire you put through the hole to that end of the tool. Then hold the wire in your other hand with thumb/forefinger, and spin the end of the tool you inserted/taped the wire to.

I use the tool that came with the Coil Master for most wire, but as you mention, it isn't as useful with thinner wires.

 

[Winblows]

metal drills

 

[Pgltz]

Not funny..Functional.
Use that €30+ tool more often.
I vape everyday.
The Catalan Cream only gets made a few times a year. (wife and kids love the nasty stuff)

Cheers
I

Ok, I promise to use my torcher more often
But, in my family we use it quite often during the winter. And I love that nasty stuff too
I googled catalan cream, I must admit that Crema Catalana sounds nice too!!!!
Oh, and we (I) should not forget Panna Cotta with rosemary! But now we are getting wild off topic, aren't we?
Peter

 

[Pgltz]

metal drills

Please forget my ignorance, but aren't drills used for combining different wires?
Peter

 

[AngeNZ]

Had the same problem - using 28 gauge ss316. Been only using half my coilwinder like others have said. Love the tips on here to solve this - cheers

 

[Pgltz]

Had the same problem - using 28 gauge ss316. Been only using half my coilwinder like others have said. Love the tips on here to solve this - cheers

Yes, great tips I will try them out tomorrow.
Cheers Peter

 

[Myk]

I don't know what that jig is, but like others I tend to only use half of my coiler. It's just easier for me to feed the wire in with my fingers.

But with TC that adjusts the wattage you should be able to make either 26ga or 28ga do what you want. If it takes too long to get up to temperature with heavier wire turn the wattage up. If it's getting too hot turn the temperature down.
For the most part different gauges is for getting to the recommended ohms for the build you want (or to fit the coil in if using NI).
SS TC likes .5Ω.

You can use a BLOWTORCH (my question here is why would anyone ever USE anything else, LOL)

Taking our advice and giving up waxing?

 

[Pgltz]

I don't know what that jig is, but like others I tend to only use half of my coiler. It's just easier for me to feed the wire in with my fingers.

But with TC that adjusts the wattage you should be able to make either 26ga or 28ga do what you want. If it takes too long to get up to temperature with heavier wire turn the wattage up. If it's getting too hot turn the temperature down.
For the most part different gauges is for getting to the recommended ohms for the build you want (or to fit the coil in if using NI).
SS TC likes .5Ω.

It seems that my tanks (prime clones) don't handle tc very well if the ohms are too low...?
I can't see a reason for that, but that's what I experience.
Right now I am just able to make it work, and I was just wondering if there was a method or a tool that would make it easier, and hopefully torching the wire is the way.
I have got some ss430, 28 G, and will try that tomorrow in combination with the torching.
Peter

 

[Pgltz]

That reply became a mess, sorry about that...
Peter

 

[Izan]

P,
I bought a Marquis RDA many years ago and it came with a matched set of mandrels that handle most of my winding tasks. A 4€ graduated rod does the rest.

Cheers
I

 

[Beamslider]

What kind of resistance are you trying for? TC works best with SS316L at .5 ohm and below. It also works better if the coil is spaced.

A lot of TC mods will only do TC in 1 ohm and below. I don't think you are likely to be very happy with the TC at high ohms

 

[Pgltz]

P,
I bought a Marquis RDA many years ago and it came with a matched set of mandrels that handle most of my winding tasks. A 4€ graduated rod does the rest.



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Cheers
I

Thanks!
Peter

 

[Pgltz]

What kind of resistance are you trying for? TC works best with SS316L at .5 ohm and below. It also works better if the coil is spaced.

A lot of TC mods will only do TC in 1 ohm and below. I don't think you are likely to be very happy with the TC at high ohms

I had an Ares, it was easier to build on that - no problems with "high" ohms and tc (around 1.2 ohm)
The mod I use is dicodes dani no 6.
Peter