I started vaping in the middle of September last year, a month after my biannual cleaning and annual dental x-rays... in November I started vaping strictly VG as it just seemed more natural and healthy from what little reading I did on the matter. Yesterday I had this years annual dental x-rays, I have 3 cavities between my teeth, I hadn't had 3 cavities in my entire life, and never any between my teeth! I'm thinking that it has to be the vaping as it's the ONLY change I've made in the past year, my brushing and flossing habits are the same, as is my diet and as I have since middle school I only drink sugar free beverages. My dentist was as surprised as I was... it wasn't till a few hours later that I made the possible vaping connection. I'm devastated... sure cavities are better than cancer but I guess I was hoping there really were no real vaping side effects. My dentist prescribed some toothpaste with extra fluoride that is supposed to prevent future cavities so hopefully with it and the knowledge of the VG, glucose connection I'll have no further problems.
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@ellenb That is very discourging news, as I just switched to VG. It would be interesting to hear from more long-term VG vapers regarding their dental health.
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Guys, as I said before I'm a dentist (take that for what it's worth!), and while I don't want to dismiss the possibility of VG or vaping in general as being a potential contributor to tooth decay, I think it's a little early to get too excited about it.
Tooth decay is a multifactorial condition, meaning that there is usually not just one cause. VG may be a contributing factor, and may increase the risk of tooth decay, but I doubt it is a causative factor by itself. Just because you are vaping and a cavity shows up doesn't necessarily mean it was the VG that caused it. I have seen non-vapers suddenly get cavities out of the blue with no perceptible change in hygiene or food/drink. Sometimes that is just the way it goes. There's so many potential causes of decay, and most people are aware of the obvious ones (soda, sugar in coffee, etc.) but there are plenty of other things we all do or ingest on a daily basis that can contribute to cavities.
I pretty much vape only 100% VG juices from Alien Visions, and have been doing so for over a year, and I haven't had any issues with my teeth. And I probably get my teeth cleaned less than most of you, believe it or not!!
Of course, everyone is different, and what may be a risk factor for some may not be a risk factor for others. So proceed with caution, but don't get too worked up about it at this point. Do whatever you can to decrease your risk factor of decay, regardless of whether or not you vape. Anectodal evidence can be helpful, but doesn't really prove anything. So until we have some proof, keep vaping.
Tooth decay is a multifactorial condition, meaning that there is usually not just one cause. VG may be a contributing factor, and may increase the risk of tooth decay, but I doubt it is a causative factor by itself. Just because you are vaping and a cavity shows up doesn't necessarily mean it was the VG that caused it. I have seen non-vapers suddenly get cavities out of the blue with no perceptible change in hygiene or food/drink. Sometimes that is just the way it goes. There's so many potential causes of decay, and most people are aware of the obvious ones (soda, sugar in coffee, etc.) but there are plenty of other things we all do or ingest on a daily basis that can contribute to cavities.
I pretty much vape only 100% VG juices from Alien Visions, and have been doing so for over a year, and I haven't had any issues with my teeth. And I probably get my teeth cleaned less than most of you, believe it or not!!
Of course, everyone is different, and what may be a risk factor for some may not be a risk factor for others. So proceed with caution, but don't get too worked up about it at this point. Do whatever you can to decrease your risk factor of decay, regardless of whether or not you vape. Anectodal evidence can be helpful, but doesn't really prove anything. So until we have some proof, keep vaping.
I would venture to say that the cavaties are due from all the years of tobacco use not vaping IMO. On the other hand vaping does dry my mouth out also. So what i do when my mouth is dry, I get something to drink lol!!
Dang Ellenb I'm sorry to hear that! Not sure if you saw my threads on the subject but now I gots to wonder a little if the dentist I saw in March could have seen some cavities that the one last week didn't... though if they're from the vaping they'd have surely gotten worse and more visible on x-rays since then.
In any case I think I'll cut my joots to like 20% VG on my next order, from my usual 50/50. Might drop the nic as well.
And thanks for your comments, toothboy. Good to have a dentist or two around here!
In any case I think I'll cut my joots to like 20% VG on my next order, from my usual 50/50. Might drop the nic as well.
And thanks for your comments, toothboy. Good to have a dentist or two around here!
No problem.
And as for your question if the new dentist might have missed some cavities...it's possible. But most likely it's just a difference in philosophy. I see people for second opinions all the time, and sometimes I see more than their previous dentist had recommended, and sometimes I see less. Some dentists are more aggressive than others. Chances are the first dentist was just more aggressive. Doesn't necessarily mean that the areas he thought needed fillings that your new dentist didn't won't become problems in the future, but it sounds like at this time they're just not severe enough for your new dentist to recommend treatment. Once you put a hole in a tooth and fill it, there's no going back, so the less treatment you have, the better off you are. If I'm on the fence about something, a lot of times I'll tend to be conservative and check it at their next visit.
So don't worry yourself, the new guy sounds like he's looking out for your best interests.
And as for your question if the new dentist might have missed some cavities...it's possible. But most likely it's just a difference in philosophy. I see people for second opinions all the time, and sometimes I see more than their previous dentist had recommended, and sometimes I see less. Some dentists are more aggressive than others. Chances are the first dentist was just more aggressive. Doesn't necessarily mean that the areas he thought needed fillings that your new dentist didn't won't become problems in the future, but it sounds like at this time they're just not severe enough for your new dentist to recommend treatment. Once you put a hole in a tooth and fill it, there's no going back, so the less treatment you have, the better off you are. If I'm on the fence about something, a lot of times I'll tend to be conservative and check it at their next visit.
So don't worry yourself, the new guy sounds like he's looking out for your best interests.
Very interesting thread; read it start to finish. Think I'll move to VG exclusively, Stevia, and Biotine products. Cuz come Hell or high water, I won't stop getting my vape on! If being toofless is the price (which I'm almost certain data will prove is not) then Hell with it; yank them now.
It seems that most people complaining of cavities or oral problems had these problems previously. I always have water with throughout the day and do try to counteract the dry mouth effect. I'm more concerned with the flavoring used... Is there sugar in e-liquid?
Don't know if this was mentioned yet, there are quite a few tooth threads going and wanted to point this out. Smoking wrecks everything in your mouth, obviously taste as well as nerves and blood flow. When you quit you will regain bloodfow and feeling, can become more sensitive and may even bleed more from the gums. I've had chips and cavities for years that I could not feel until I quit. Now simply brushing and rinsing can light up places all around my mouth as it comes back to life, getting food in those old cavities really does a number on them, and dry mouth from caked on vapor film adds more discomfort. Just something to think about, it's easy to see the new habit as a culprit and overlook the backlash of the old one.
I've been fighting chronic gum disease for over 10 yrs myself, there is no question my oral heath has greatly improved since vaping, my gums are pink, pockets as filling up with gum tissue, but my teeth are so much more sensitive, this may or may not have something to do with nic or glycerin, or my nerve function may just be improving.
I've been fighting chronic gum disease for over 10 yrs myself, there is no question my oral heath has greatly improved since vaping, my gums are pink, pockets as filling up with gum tissue, but my teeth are so much more sensitive, this may or may not have something to do with nic or glycerin, or my nerve function may just be improving.
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