Tornado-T: cartridge tips?

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hi everyone, let me start by saying that i absolutely love my TT. however, ive been having trouble with the cartridges leaking a bit. not like they are dumping their whole load, but it seems like after i pull the cart out i can get 10-15 more puffs just tailpiping. either that or turn it upside down and fluid drips out of the atomizer. i ordered 10 carts and have already thrown out 3; wont throw out any more cuz then i wouldnt have enough for my flavors. some of them are perfectly fine, while other seem to leak when there is less fluid in the tank.

so i ask, what can i do to try and prevent leakage?

here is a list of things i heard cause leakage that i am attempting to avoid:

  • i am NOT pulling the caps off with a syringe in the hole.
  • i am NOT covering the airflow holes (or at least trying not to).
  • i am NOT filling the carts the whole way. in fact, i only go about 75% of the way.
  • i am trying really hard to keep it pointed downward while in use.
  • the juice im using is TW PG styles: patriot, red label, decadent.
for a bit, i thought maybe it could be the atomizer. but on the other hand, like i said, a handful of the carts are perfectly fine. am i drawing too hard or too light?

let me know your experiences.
 

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I've been trying really hard not to pull off the little circles (fighting my OCD!). I'm afraid of making the hole bigger, so far I have no leaks!
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One of my tanks was leaking, but it stopped when I pulled off the punched-out circle of plastic that was hanging from the inside of the lid when I took it off. (the "hanging chad".)

just pulled one out of a cart i knew was leaking; ill see how this works out and report back when i get home from work.
 

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pulled the chad off of one that wasnt leaking, and off of another one that was. shall report back again tonight.

edit: noting that the chad on the one that already was leaky was a jagged mess. dont have high hopes for this one.

edit#2: still leaky. if not worse. getting out a new one and puncturing/pulling the chad off before i fill it. will let you know what happens with that one.
 
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edit#2: still leaky. if not worse. getting out a new one and puncturing/pulling the chad off before i fill it. will let you know what happens with that one.


well, started off GREAT. light draw, great flavor, no leakage. but, once the fluid started getting under half, it started to leak. looks like 6-8 drops left in the cart but i feel like ill only get one more use out of it. seemed like the cart was wicking fluid into the rubber cap. i cleaned it up and it doesnt seem to be leaking now, though. cant tell how messy the atomizer is.

leakage upon low fluid almost seems unavoidable at this point.
 

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Yeah, I've noticed that mine also leaks when it is partially empty, but I haven't had a full one leak yet. I think that this may be the culprit. The solution? Top up your tank all the time, I guess. (Although this kind of defeats the purpose of the tank :) )

my thoughts exactly lol.
 

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Humm, I bought an atomizer and 5 tanks for my wife and a set for myself. We've had them over a week now and have loaded most of the tanks with different flavors of juice. So far, we've had no leakage. We do get a condensation build up on the tank stem but that is easily wiped off.

Sorry to hear you're having these problems.
 

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Hi everyone

Can you let me know where exactly the fluid is leaking when the content is low? Is it in the atomizer? Around the screw threads? Any specific info you can provide me with will help determine the problem and aid us to get it fixed. From what I can tell this is happening with both new cartridge's and cart's that are on their 3rd, 4th or even 5th refill.

Thanks
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Hi everyone

Can you let me know where exactly the fluid is leaking when the content is low? Is it in the atomizer? Around the screw threads? Any specific info you can provide me with will help determine the problem and aid us to get it fixed. From what I can tell this is happening with both new cartridge's and cart's that are on their 3rd, 4th or even 5th refill.

Thanks
Alex

Perfect timing to ask! i had a suspicion that it could have been air causing this to happen, and i may have confirmed it today. i pulled a tank out (one i had known to leak) and there was a BIG air bubble in there; plenty of fluid. it hadnt started to leak yet. just to see what would happen, i shook the tank lightly to the side. the bubble popped, and most of the fluid (little less than a ml, i think) shot to the floor. at least it didnt happen in the atomizer.

so seems to me that the fluid leaks out of the hole. i havent seen any run into the battery well or out of the threaded end of the atomizer. i must credit you, while the leaking tanks are a problem, the atomizers can stand up to it quite well. it just gets messy turning them upside down when theyre flooded, as should be expected.

thanks much for your concerns, alex. i hope you guys figure out whats wrong!
 

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Mine start gargling and fluid starts coming from the tip, there's some that comes from the bottom of the atty. normally I have to take the thing apart and blow all the fluid from the atty. There's quite a bit that blows out.

i get the gurgling and a bit of fluid from the mouthpiece as well, but i always pull the tank out immediately when this begins to happen. i had been trying to catch it with an air bubble for about a week when i finally had the opportunity in my above post.
 
Perfect timing to ask! i had a suspicion that it could have been air causing this to happen, and i may have confirmed it today. i pulled a tank out (one i had known to leak) and there was a BIG air bubble in there; plenty of fluid. it hadnt started to leak yet. just to see what would happen, i shook the tank lightly to the side. the bubble popped, and most of the fluid (little less than a ml, i think) shot to the floor. at least it didnt happen in the atomizer.

so seems to me that the fluid leaks out of the hole. i havent seen any run into the battery well or out of the threaded end of the atomizer. i must credit you, while the leaking tanks are a problem, the atomizers can stand up to it quite well. it just gets messy turning them upside down when theyre flooded, as should be expected.

thanks much for your concerns, alex. i hope you guys figure out whats wrong!

I think you have air getting in somewhere else. I have the clear tanks from TW. So you can see everything that is going on with the liquid and bubbles. The section that holds the fluid should not leak if held level. Pressure will hold the liquid in. Air has to get in to displace the liquid. Maybe the cap on the bottom of the cart is compromised.

As far as leaking issue, I think alot of the issues are condensation inside the cone rather than fluid leakage. A simple solution to this is to clean out the atomizer as needed. With the clear carts, you can see exactly what is going on. The tip where the vapor comes in has a little compartment that will sometimes fill with liquid after prolonged use, usually after the atomizer has processed 4 to 6 mL of liquid. If you have the clear carts, you will notice that the liquid that seeps into the mouthpiece is darker than fresh liquid, or the liquid in the tank. Since the inlets for the vapor are on the side, condensed vapor will build up and get sucked into the mouthpiece. Also, that condensed vapor will run down the cone, pass through the atomizer chamber and out the hole and around the threads and battery contact. (Or out the air inlets on the base of the cone).

I haven't dissected one of of these atomizer cones yet, because the two I have are still working great. I have more ordered, so soon. Regular rinsing or air blasting will prevent this condsation effect from happening. The wicks on 510 can hold back a significant volume of liquid. As the liquid is vaporized and recondenses, it gets thicker and darker. The heavier, thicker liquid settles into the wicking material of the atomizer and the newer lighter fluid rests on top. With more and more build up of thicker liquid, you will have leaking. Your atomizer in a sense becomes plugged up and flooded, because the condensed liquid is harder to vaporize. As you use the device, it tries to pull the new liquid through, rather successfully, but processes less in to vapor because the build up is not vaporizing as well. So you are just pulling more liquid on to more liquid with less efficient vaporizing, resulting in flooding.

Moral is clean you atomizer regularly. I vape about 4-5mL a day. So I clean mine daily with a hot water rinse. I blow out the excess water and rerinse. The wipe dry with a paper towel tip on both ends. Blow from the top and hold a paper towel tip and the battery contact end to wick out excess water. If you are still getting dark staining on the paper towel. Repeat the processes. A quick dry burn will prevent excess corrosion from building up on the heating coil. The whole process takes about 2 minutes, if that.
 
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