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Which blueberry?
Red Licorice Flavor Concentrate (LA) WL is from Lorann's. TFA doesn't have one.
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Which blueberry?
Red Licorice Flavor Concentrate (LA) WL is from Lorann's. TFA doesn't have one.
I mixed up 5ml with 30 drops dew and 5 drops sweetener and it's ok but nothing special. Added 4 drops lemon lime and it's about there but then 4 drops cola and its there. To me the dew flavor alone just wont cut it but it might be ok for your buds.
My bad on the Licorice the bottles from WL don't say and I assumed TFA (which is my preferred flavorings) but it's not that important if left out. Maybe try a Sub with Gummy Candy or just leave it out entirely. You can use any Blueberry I use TFA Blueberry Candy but it's sweet enough that any should work.
Thanks for the update. But unless you modify your OP your recipe is classified as a "Multiple Vendor" recipe. At this point I only have 20 of those so I don't post a report for them. But on a side note, because of your 11 flavors I corrected some formatting problems on my report that I wouldn't have found otherwise. Thanks!
I haven't been on here in a reeeeeealllyy long time, so I have to say thank you for making this master recipe list...I hopped on here as a last ditch effort because I was feeling burnt out on DIY and having trouble finding anything new (and tired of "fails"). I do believe you just saved my DIY-ing efforts 
I have done some reading and forgive me if I am wrong but it looks like we are offering up tried-and-true recipes for the list? Unless it's already closed...but I am re-offering one of mine that I have posted before, but still love now.
R2D2 (all TFA of course)
RY4 Double 10%
Bavarian Cream 5%
Double Chocolate (clear) 3%
Cotton Candy 2%
I always find this enjoyable as soon as it's had it's bath, and it only gets better with time for me.
If it's too late to go on the list, then hopefully someone will enjoy it anyway
I have done some reading and forgive me if I am wrong but it looks like we are offering up tried-and-true recipes for the list? Unless it's already closed...but I am re-offering one of mine that I have posted before, but still love now. R2D2 (all TFA of course)
RY4 Double 10%
Bavarian Cream 5%
Double Chocolate (clear) 3%
Cotton Candy 2%
I always find this enjoyable as soon as it's had it's bath, and it only gets better with time for me.
If it's too late to go on the list, then hopefully someone will enjoy it anyway
For future reference, if you turn your bottle on it's side and look at the edge of the label, it will say the brand (well it should, all my WL bottles do). It's tiny so it's easy to miss.
Good to know I never even noticed that was there.
I will change the recipe and make it TFA only.
I haven't been on here in a reeeeeealllyy long time, so I have to say thank you for making this master recipe list...I hopped on here as a last ditch effort because I was feeling burnt out on DIY and having trouble finding anything new (and tired of "fails"). I do believe you just saved my DIY-ing efforts
R2D2 (all TFA of course)
RY4 Double 10%
Bavarian Cream 5%
Double Chocolate (clear) 3%
Cotton Candy 2%
I always find this enjoyable as soon as it's had it's bath, and it only gets better with time for me.
If it's too late to go on the list, then hopefully someone will enjoy it anyway
You are already on the report. Check here.
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Very interesting adding saline to pop up flavors, I cant wait to try it out, but I just have to ask you...
If you're mixing your base nic starting with 80% being 12% nic, adding 9% distilled water, 9% (.9% saline) and 2% PGA,
you would have a vg nic base being @ 96mg per ml. Now I havent worked out the math much further...but obviously you're not vaping juice at this dilution, so its somewhat of a stretch to say you're final mixed e-juice has anything near 9% saline in it.
I'd say its more like 1.25% on a 12mg juice and about 3% on a 32mg juice ???
I believe this is a problem that comes up all too often, confusing nic % with mg. Nobody says "yay us!" when dropping to 10% nic (100mg), I pretty sure they meant 10mg... besides who sells 12% (120mg) nic concentrate? I've tried this 0.9% saline solution and found that ~1% was plenty. YMMV, but 9% distilled water + 9% saline (a 0.9% solution) is a lot of water. That would totally kill the flavor from any juice I make other than super concentrate flavors that usually call for 1% - 3% max, and I still wouldn't use more than 5% water in the final mix unless I was intentionally trying to kill a flavor. I'm using an all VG base as well, the only PG I use comes from the TFA flavorings themselves. I've had better luck with 1% - 2% when using the saline solution. As all thing vape related tend to be, YMMV.
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I don't think I'm fully understanding your question, so I'll explain what I'm sure I understand!
Schnarph is correct (below) - I said 10% when I should have said 10mg!
If we're making one liter of our "base" (1000 ml) - it contains:
80% VG (800 ml)
9% distilled water (90 ml)
9% sterile saline solution 0.9% dilution (90 ml)
2% pure grain alcohol (20 ml)
When using any calculator, we consider that mixture to be "the VG" and plug in our nic level at whatever %/mg we're using for that specific juice.
'Sorry for any confusion.
You are correct, I should have said 10mg rather than 10%.
It's pretty common for DIYers to dilute VG with 20% water (MBV allegedly dilutes all their VG juices with 30% distilled water). So our 20% dilution is not "a lot of water" that would "totally kill the flavor". Water doesn't have anything in it that would "kill flavor" (in fact, many recommend to add a few drops of water to PG juices to enhance flavors).
Everybody's gonna like different levels of everything (I've got zero issues with someone liking 1%-2% rather than the 9% we like). 9% of a 0.9% saline solution may seem like "a lot of salt", but in actuality it's spreading 1/4 teaspoon of salt throughout 1000 mls of juice (over 33 30ml bottles).
We tested at several different levels - and the flavors "pop the most" (for us) at the highest level of saline solution. That means less flavor-chemicals in us; less money spent on flavors, and our mouth stays wetter.
Of course -typical disclaimer always- YMMV
P.S. Oh yeah, almost forgot...too much water in any juice kills vapor production - and less vapor = less flavor. We tried a 30% dilution and the vapor production went down by around 25% (the flavor loss was barely discernible). But 20% water in a VG VG/nic juice doesn't kill vapor production (we get killer plumes just using a glassomizer on an eGo 2.5ohms at 4.0-ish - and even more on our Cisco 306's
)I don't think I'm fully understanding your question, so I'll explain what I'm sure I understand!
Schnarph is correct (below) - I said 10% when I should have said 10mg!
If we're making one liter of our "base" (1000 ml) - it contains:
80% VG (800 ml)
9% distilled water (90 ml)
9% sterile saline solution 0.9% dilution (90 ml)
2% pure grain alcohol (20 ml)
When using any calculator, we consider that mixture to be "the VG" and plug in our nic level at whatever %/mg we're using for that specific juice.
'Sorry for any confusion.
Ohh ok sorry, I thought you were talking about the NIC base you're using in your mixes, rather than the mixing VG as you've just pointed out.
But now I'm even more 'confused'...Because if I'm following your more detailed explaination correctly, the juices you "plug in" with lower nic mg levels will end up with exponentially higher saline percentages than the ones with higher nic mg levels since they'll be being cut with a larger percentage of your (water,saline,pga added) VG. ?
To me it would seem more accurate to settle on a given set percentage of saline to add to the final mixes, based on flavoring percentages, rather than have that sliding scale caused by using the saline in your mixing VG.
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You can plug it into most calculators(ejuicemeup) as Water/PGA etc. as a %. Start with 1% and go from there.
I don't get how 20% dilution of pure VG mix would aid flavor much.
Does water carry flavor that much better then PG or do you just bump the flavor percentages?
Does water carry flavor that much better then PG or do you just bump the flavor percentages?
Yes, depending upon the percentages of flavorings added, the VG percentage varies (and our "VG base" includes water, saline & alcohol). However, in a 0.9 saline solution, we're talking
BUT, you are absolutely correct - it would indeed be more accurate to add the saline solution in a specific percentage to each particular recipe. One could even source/order some USP Sodium Chloride crystals and create a more concentrated solution (and those using PG could use the more concentrated solution without 'over diluting' their PG).
We started adding the saline solution for two simple reasons - to slightly enhance flavors overall and for a more hydrating vape. What we did accomplished that beautifully (to us). However, if I were ever going to 'mass produce', I would definitely go for even more exact measuring.
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We don't add the water to enhance flavoring. We use 100% VG (no PG), and VG is very thick & viscous - and that means it doesn't wick easily until it's warmed up (and that it's hard to mix). So most folks that use "VG" dilute the VG with distilled water...anywhere from 5-30%.
We read that saline enhances flavors (and already knew that it makes your mouth wet, and that it's used in lung treatements) - so when we did our testing and found that a 20% dilution of our VG worked really well for us - we decided to split it between water and saline solution (which is almost all water anyway). So instead of diluting our VG with 20% water, we basically dilute it with 10% water and 10% saline solution.
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CORRECTION TO MY INFORMATION ABOVE
I miscalculated and put the decimal at the wrong place! A scant 1/4 teaspoon of salt makes 100mls of .9% solution, not 1000 mls! It takes around 2 teaspoons of salt to make 1000mls of .9%
My sincerest of apologies!
I miscalculated and put the decimal at the wrong place! A scant 1/4 teaspoon of salt makes 100mls of .9% solution, not 1000 mls! It takes around 2 teaspoons of salt to make 1000mls of .9%
My sincerest of apologies!
Instead of pear try .5 - 1.5 % cinnamon....really makes juicy peach, granny smith apple and others POP!
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