Tribeca Clone 26

[littlebluepig]

I've been able to isolate the flavor and it's the FA Virginia. I made another batch without it to see how it does.

fogMann does the Virginia mellow out after a couple of weeks? Think I'm also gonna try the RY4 with the AP just for comparison
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[fogMann]

I've been able to isolate the flavor and it's the FA Virginia. I made another batch without it to see how it does.

fogMann does the Virginia mellow out after a couple of weeks? Think I'm also gonna try the RY4 with the AP just for comparison
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I'm not able to isolate the Virginia per se; I think you'll determine that yourself pretty soon if you have something left from your first batch(es). I stuck with Virginia because I do think it adds to the recipe and is the only tobacco I have found that adds the distinctive color. From that alone, I assumed I was on the right track.

I started with DRY4 + AP and it was decent but lacked body and depth which is why I started adding.

I'm happy that you're tweaking this formula. I think I got close but agree that it's certainly not 100%. I have some variations I'll share once I'm finished testing but that'll be a while. Please continue to share your thoughts.

 

[Train2]

This SOUNDS like a great approach - I just did my first batch of DRY4 with some AP added, as I figured that would get closer to the Tribeca combination, but I knew it would need a touch of SOME tobacco richness. Now I've got a shopping list for next time.

Note - DAMN that AP has a scent.
It came as a 5% in PG dilution, and all I did was pop the top, use a couple drops then close it - but my WHOLE FAMILY, including the cat has complained that I stunk up the entire house. And they never even notice anything I vape (except that ONE time, Mt. Baker Root Beer REALLY stunk up the place).

 

[Busted knuckles]

Yeah, the virgina is a little high for me. I mixed up a second batch with half the virgina and I'm realy enjoying it. Still trying to dial it in for my specific taste, but it's a good recipe to work with!

 

[littlebluepig]

I found the color comes with time. The color is turning yellow after about a week and a half. My partner at work and I both think it is just about perfect.

Just wanted to say Thanks fogMann. You have saved me a lot of time and even more money. Keep up the great work. It's people like you and Danny45 that keep this community rolling. You take the time to help noobs like me to keep going and not get discouraged.

 

[fogMann]

Glad you like it and I certainly appreciate your feedback.

I think it still needs some tweaking but I don't want to submit a new formula until I think it's dialed in and worth anyone interested in buying yet another flavoring. Although, I haven't bought Tribeca for several months and have saved way more than the cost of the ingredients and have enough remaining to make six months or more worth of the clone.

 

[Scope666]

Reporting back. I made my first batch with half the Virginia (based on a few comments about it being strong) so Virginia was at .6 percent

My wife who an absolute Tribeca LOVER actually likes this better than the real thing!

The AP only arrived today. The other ingredients arrived early last week so I mixed everything but the AP and ran it through the Ultrasonic a boat load of times, and did some cap off steeping afterwards. The AP has just been introduced so I'm thinking it could get better as that absorbs in.

 

[spaceballsrules]

I made this recipe 2 weeks ago. The only thing that is missing is the TA, and I will add it as soon as Wizard gets it back in stock, but this is VERY close. I have this in a dripper and the real Tribeca in a carto, and there are only very subtle differences. If I put down the real stuff and just puff on this clone, I am perfectly content. Looks like I won't be ordering from Halo any time soon.

The ONLY thing that I am not getting from the clone is a slight floral top note. That note is similar to what I get from TFA Black Honey Tobacco. Or maybe a floral vanilla? Perhaps a touch of FA Vanilla Classic or FA Vanilla Tahity would put this over the top? I don't know...I'm just spit-balling here. I need to taste the clone with the TA to get a better idea.

Thank you infinitely for this. Great job!

 

[fogMann]

Thanks for the appreciative words. I put in lots of work on this and its great to hear the feedback. Halo probably isn't pleased but I expect DIY only puts a tiny ding in their sales.

Certainly, this recipe can be tweaked; be sure to post any improvements. EG- I agree that the Virginia might be a bit too high but I love the color it gives. My final tweak to the basic formula was to add either 0.5% of NF Brown Sugar or NF Caramel. (Note - vendor does make a difference for these.) I'd love to hear what everyone else tries. It's now to the point where I prefer mine over Halo but of course that's all a matter of taste.

I have also done a lot of mixes with this formula. I make a concentrate of the basic ingredients and use as a base to mix with lots of other flavors. Some work really well although many don't. I made two versions of the base - one using everything in same proportions as original formula and another where I cut the Virginia and TA by 2/3 for a sweeter version. Mixing larger batches of this base combination allows me to treat them as one ingredient and saves a lot of time on experiments.

Using these bases, what I found good to mix with them was: NF Brown Sugar (killer!), TE Peanut, VZ Honey, TFA Kahlua, HA Pineapple, CAP Toasted Almond, FA Oakwood, CAP Strawberry, FA Tiramisu and FA Hypnotic Mist. What wasn't so good was: TFA Apple, TFA Banana, TFA Cherry, HA Peach, TFA Irish Cream, TFA Maple, Plum, TFA Raisin, and FA Cookie. Consider these just random ideas - might be different with differing proportions and/or vendors than I used along with some patience. Point is, this is a pretty versatile mixer and has led to the start of some pretty good formulas.

Merry Christmas. Give your loved one a 30ml bottle of Tribeca. They won't know it only cost you three bucks.

 

[ccwaters]

Using these bases, what I found good to mix with them was: NF Brown Sugar (killer!), TE Peanut, VZ Honey, TFA Kahlua, HA Pineapple, CAP Toasted Almond, FA Oakwood, CAP Strawberry, FA Tiramisu and FA Hypnotic Mist. What wasn't so good was: TFA Apple, TFA Banana, TFA Cherry, HA Peach, TFA Irish Cream, TFA Maple, Plum, TFA Raisin, and FA Cookie. Consider these just random ideas - might be different with differing proportions and/or vendors than I used along with some patience. Point is, this is a pretty versatile mixer and has led to the start of some pretty good formulas.

I know most vendors you've abbreviated, but those Highlighted are unrecognized by me, perhaps you could make a key of the mentioned vendors? I would greatly appreciate it, and future visitors to this thread might be helped by this as well!

Thanks for your work on this recipe,, and thanks for sharing it, I love it, and while not 100% it is close, and I prefer it to Tribeca myself!

 

[fogMann]

Sure.

HA = Hangsen. TFA = The Flavor Apprentice. FA = FlavourArt. VZ = VapingZone. NF = Nature's Flavors. CAP = Capella. TE is Tobacco Express but that was a mistake on my part. I meant FE which is Fruit Express. Both TE and FE are available from eCigExpress and may be house brand or captive supplier since I haven't seen them available anywhere else.

With these 'add-on' flavors, you shouldn't feel the need to use the same supplier. I didn't really test these enough to say that using substitutes would be a mistake. Except for the NF Brown Sugar. That is a unique flavor and one of the best I've used, especially when mixed with Tribeca.

Thanks for pointing this out. I now recall how irritating it was when I read posts containing phrases like "If your recipe contains TA then add a touch of TFA EM for an ADV"

 

[i-technology]

Hi guys

and thanks for the follow up to the tribeca threads. I really love this flavor as it's my all day, but need to get a good clone down to cut some cost corners ^^

I think RY4 simple is better than double, as i find the double adds a too high of a vanilla after-taste.
Also from what i heard tribeca is not a acronym for "three tobaccos", but for "Triangle Below Canal Street" Tribeca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ..heard someone say Halo had HQ there ..or at least at some point, but never followed up on it..

The only consensus i've seen so far on tribeca is the Acetyl Pyrazine. I'd say pretty much any RY type tobacco + AP gets us 80% to tribeca (truth is i've only tried RY4 & RY4 Double...)

Big problem with AP is it fades quite quickly with steeping i find..

Dannyv45 think's it's not even a RY type tobacco but more a Virginia type: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-have-figured-out-tribeca-5.html#post10304795

Personally i've had success with a drop or 2 of Peanut Butter, and also a drop of Cacao, but it's always missing this rich body...

The other day i read through the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/252238-vinegar.html thread after which i added a couple of drops to one of my tests clones. Result was pretty good in that i got that rich moist body i was looking for, but overdid the dosage a bit, so need to try again with less

Just got a package from TFA today, so got some TA, Methylbutyraldehyde, and other stuff..


..let's keep playing and get this flavor down

 

[RocketPuppy]

Halo may have named it after one of the boroughs, but I think they began (and continue to be) in NJ. Though they're somewhat enigmatic, so I may be incorrect.

As for this clone, I must applaud you good sir fog. I'm always on the lookout for ry4s and Tribeca clones.

I halved the Virginia as base for three 10ml's. 1) original, 2) brown sugar .5% & bc .3%, and 3) butter rum .8%. The smell alone is fantastic. Will update in a week.

Thank you!!!

 

[i-technology]

I halved the Virginia as base for three 10ml's. 1) original, 2) brown sugar .5% & bc .3%, and 3) butter rum .8%. The smell alone is fantastic. Will update in a week.

Hmm, butter rum. The name alone sounds pretty yummy ! Whats "bc" ?

Got some brown sugar too (smells great), and started a mix ...then went crazy and switched the ry4 simple with ry4 asian, used brown sugar instead of sweetener, added different types of pyrazine (acetyl, methyl, tertamethyl), some M-Type tobanon extract ..yeah, went stupid on the mix ! But tasted it and, even though miles from tribeca, i find it tasted just like a normal cigarette for now ^^ ..so not all lost

 

[RocketPuppy]

bc - Bavarian cream

A few of the other Tribeca clones use that and a variation of vanilla (vanilla swirl, vanilla candy, etc.).

 

[RocketPuppy]

added different types of pyrazine (acetyl, methyl, tertamethyl), some M-Type tobanon extract ..yeah, went stupid on the mix ! But tasted it and, even though miles from tribeca, i find it tasted just like a normal cigarette for now ^^ ..so not all lost

What are the flavors you get from pyrazine tertamethyl and methyl?

 

[StrappedKaos]

OK so I have used my own clone of this as my all day vape for over 6 months and I will share.
Double RY4 TFA 5-7%
Graham Cracker Clear 5%
Bavarian Cream 1%
1% or so of EM or prefered sweetner.
I have never turned to any other clones as I worked for months to get this to an exact replica but hey what do I know?

 

[i-technology]

What are the flavors you get from pyrazine tertamethyl and methyl?

No clue since I tossed stuff blindly into the mix. Actually I removed a few drops of my habitual AP and replaced in same amounts with those. In any case they smell nothing near like AP.

Next week I'll mix some base aromas and split them into vials and add a drop or two of each of those pyrazines to see how they actually react.

 

[i-technology]

OK so I have used my own clone of this as my all day vape for over 6 months and I will share.

Thanks for sharing ;-)

 

[StrappedKaos]

No problem, I was making and sharing for a lot of people and made some diff. changes with the %'s to see how it affected the outcome but my own TRI-3 which I sell is similiar to this mix and I cant keep it stocked making 500ml at a time! Hope this helps others to find the elusive Tribeca.
Now after 50 plus attemps if I can just get the Boba's to work I will be the worlds happiest man