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E-Cig 101, an e-cig basically has three components: 1) battery = power; 2) atomizer = vaporiser; and 3) juice delivery = cartridges, tanks, juice bottles (juice fed mods).
All e-cigs and mods are combinations of these components, and the mods are designed to optimize them, which they do to one extent or the other.
Batteries deliver the power that drives the atomizer. Generally, if you give the same atomizer higher voltage, the vape gets hotter and delivers more throat hit. The larger the battery, the longer it lasts, and the bigger the mod needs to be.
Atomizers heat up and turn the juice into vapor. Generally, the lower the resistance (measured on ohms), the hotter the vape.
The battery voltage and the atomizer resistance have to work together to get a good vape. That is why you will see people talking about a 3.7v battery and a 1.8ohm atomizer, or using a high resistance atomizer with a 6v set up. Most people find a battery that gives them the size or longevity that they prefer and an atomizer that works well with that battery.
For those who are still searching, or are using batteries that have a gradual power loss while being used, there are variable voltage mods, which either manually, or automatically adjust the voltage being delivered to the atomizer.
Finally, the juice delivery. I use a REO Mini, which is a "bottom fed" or "juice box" mod. The pv itself has a bottle of juice contained inside so there is no refilling needed during the day. The provari, and others like it, are used primarily for dripping or use add-ons (like MAP tanks, etc.) to provide the juice to the device.
Hope that helps.
All e-cigs and mods are combinations of these components, and the mods are designed to optimize them, which they do to one extent or the other.
Batteries deliver the power that drives the atomizer. Generally, if you give the same atomizer higher voltage, the vape gets hotter and delivers more throat hit. The larger the battery, the longer it lasts, and the bigger the mod needs to be.
Atomizers heat up and turn the juice into vapor. Generally, the lower the resistance (measured on ohms), the hotter the vape.
The battery voltage and the atomizer resistance have to work together to get a good vape. That is why you will see people talking about a 3.7v battery and a 1.8ohm atomizer, or using a high resistance atomizer with a 6v set up. Most people find a battery that gives them the size or longevity that they prefer and an atomizer that works well with that battery.
For those who are still searching, or are using batteries that have a gradual power loss while being used, there are variable voltage mods, which either manually, or automatically adjust the voltage being delivered to the atomizer.
Finally, the juice delivery. I use a REO Mini, which is a "bottom fed" or "juice box" mod. The pv itself has a bottle of juice contained inside so there is no refilling needed during the day. The provari, and others like it, are used primarily for dripping or use add-ons (like MAP tanks, etc.) to provide the juice to the device.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the tip! I have never joined a forum either. I am just a "noob" all the way around. LOL
thats... cool.. i was in the same boat.. not to long ago...lol...
I realize it is a hard decision on what to buy for a first PV. Within a few weeks of vaping I knew that I wanted something that would carry enough juice to last me all day. I knew I wanted a battery that would last more than a few hours.
Dripping can give great flavor, but it is a hassle to drip when you are working or should not drip and drive.
You can get the greatest battery around that last all day, but will your juice run out? Will you have to carry around carts or cartos?
IMHO a bottom fed mod will solve those problems. There is only one that is built out of aluminum and fully mechanical. The REO. Built to last, with quality craftsmanship.
Dripping can give great flavor, but it is a hassle to drip when you are working or should not drip and drive.
You can get the greatest battery around that last all day, but will your juice run out? Will you have to carry around carts or cartos?
IMHO a bottom fed mod will solve those problems. There is only one that is built out of aluminum and fully mechanical. The REO. Built to last, with quality craftsmanship.
That was VERY helpful!!!! Thanks so much for your reply, I can see why you are a "VP Master"! I LOVE this website!!!!
Well, my signature says it all...I would also recommend the REO. I smoked for 30 years and was up to 2 packs of Camel Lights.
If you want an all day battery, I would go with a REO Grand or Woodvil (holds an 18650 3.7V battery and 6ml of juice). If you can bear with changing out a battery a couple of times or three times a day (depending on how much you vape), get the mini that uses a 14500 battery (size of a AA battery) and 3ml of juice. I personally use a Woodvil or Grand while I'm at home and have a couple of minis that I take to work and travel with. Having a couple of different flavors in my different mods really floats my boat! I can switch off between them and still not worry about loading up juice or switching out batteries all the time. The price for the mini is about $135, Grand about the same- Woodvil is right at $150. You soon make up for what you spend vs. cigarettes because juice is much cheaper than buying cigs. Good luck and let us know what you decide. If you choose a REO, there is a huge group over in the REO thread here to help and answer questions or just to hang out and lift each other up. Oh, and one more thing- the creator/maker of the REO, Rob is an upstanding guy who stands behind his mods 110%. He comes on the thread and gets to know each of his "customers" personally if you take the time to hang out there. If you call him, he'll be glad to talk to you too and answer questions- I just never have met a guy quite like him! Not sure what the warranty on his REO's is, but if there is any issue at all, I've never seen him not take his time to make things right- that goes for even REO's that folks have bought off of the classifieds and not directly from him. He just doesn't want to see one of his mods not working properly!!
If you want an all day battery, I would go with a REO Grand or Woodvil (holds an 18650 3.7V battery and 6ml of juice). If you can bear with changing out a battery a couple of times or three times a day (depending on how much you vape), get the mini that uses a 14500 battery (size of a AA battery) and 3ml of juice. I personally use a Woodvil or Grand while I'm at home and have a couple of minis that I take to work and travel with. Having a couple of different flavors in my different mods really floats my boat! I can switch off between them and still not worry about loading up juice or switching out batteries all the time. The price for the mini is about $135, Grand about the same- Woodvil is right at $150. You soon make up for what you spend vs. cigarettes because juice is much cheaper than buying cigs. Good luck and let us know what you decide. If you choose a REO, there is a huge group over in the REO thread here to help and answer questions or just to hang out and lift each other up. Oh, and one more thing- the creator/maker of the REO, Rob is an upstanding guy who stands behind his mods 110%. He comes on the thread and gets to know each of his "customers" personally if you take the time to hang out there. If you call him, he'll be glad to talk to you too and answer questions- I just never have met a guy quite like him! Not sure what the warranty on his REO's is, but if there is any issue at all, I've never seen him not take his time to make things right- that goes for even REO's that folks have bought off of the classifieds and not directly from him. He just doesn't want to see one of his mods not working properly!!
Welcome to the forum! I haven't tried a ton of mods, but I own GGTS #130, a P10 and a P18 from Super T Manufacturing, and my latest acquisition, the ProVari with the extended cup for the 18650 battery.
All of them work great, but I have to say that the P10 isn't one that I used due to battery life. For about 6 months I used both the P18 and the GGTS every day. I kept boge 510 cartos on the GGTS running 6 volts with two cr123 batteries. I used a LR atty and drip tip with the P18 running at 3.7 volts with the 18650 batteries. Either of these mods would work for you, but I would give the edge to the P18 for a mechanical mod that not only looks good, but works like a champ. Super T has a lifetime warranty on this unit. Check them out at the Super T Website
I received my Provari not too long ago and it is the only unit that I am using now. I just can't say enough good about it, and I can't say anything bad about it. Folks have linked you the website already so you have already seen it for sure.
My advice? Get a P18 and a Provari!!
Regards
All of them work great, but I have to say that the P10 isn't one that I used due to battery life. For about 6 months I used both the P18 and the GGTS every day. I kept boge 510 cartos on the GGTS running 6 volts with two cr123 batteries. I used a LR atty and drip tip with the P18 running at 3.7 volts with the 18650 batteries. Either of these mods would work for you, but I would give the edge to the P18 for a mechanical mod that not only looks good, but works like a champ. Super T has a lifetime warranty on this unit. Check them out at the Super T Website
I received my Provari not too long ago and it is the only unit that I am using now. I just can't say enough good about it, and I can't say anything bad about it. Folks have linked you the website already so you have already seen it for sure.
My advice? Get a P18 and a Provari!!
Regards
This is the first time I have to applaud the mod brigade for their input. A half dozen more mods, and I would chime in with my 2 cents on which is best. Id tell OP to pick what sounds good, and have at it. Without the experience, its hard to really tell what you like and what you love. Just dip the feet in, and test the water. If nothing else, hit up some classifieds and try em all. They are all really good in their own rights. Good luck.
Welcome and good luck with your decision. There are so many options out there that it can get very confusing when trying to choose a device that you think will work for you. I am also going to recommend the ProVari. It is very simple to use, the design is very easy on the eye and hand
It comes with a standard 510 connector which is what most atomizers are these days. You can also get adapters to use your 510 connection with other types of atomizers.
My main (well only) pv right now is the ProVari and I use Clearomizers and a MAP tank. I get great vapor and flavor from those atties. I find them very simple to use with little mess.
It comes with a standard 510 connector which is what most atomizers are these days. You can also get adapters to use your 510 connection with other types of atomizers.
My main (well only) pv right now is the ProVari and I use Clearomizers and a MAP tank. I get great vapor and flavor from those atties. I find them very simple to use with little mess.
If you go with a Provari, definitely get the 18650 extension, AW IMR batteries, and a Pila charger. Also, a CE2 tank mod. You can make these yourself or buy a pre-made.
If you go with a Reo Grand or Woodvil, get the same AW IMR batteries & Pila charger and a variety of 510 threaded attys. I say variety, so you can figure out which ones you like best.
It's an interesting journey, a tad costly at the start, but so worth it if you kick the analog habit. I wish you luck.
Oh yeah, the other mods already suggested are decent choices too.
If you go with a Reo Grand or Woodvil, get the same AW IMR batteries & Pila charger and a variety of 510 threaded attys. I say variety, so you can figure out which ones you like best.
It's an interesting journey, a tad costly at the start, but so worth it if you kick the analog habit. I wish you luck.
Oh yeah, the other mods already suggested are decent choices too.
Just another option for your consideration ...
Precise 18650
18650 wake til bedtime battery power combined with Low Resistance atomizers and good juice, you're set.
But, in the Precise, you're paying a premium for top notch craftsmanship. There are other big battery mods (other 18650s too) which will provide nearly equal functionality, and many of them at a lower price. But if aesthetics matter to ya, take a look.
Lots of great mods out there which will meet your criteria, a number of them already mentioned here.
Good luck finding the one for you.
Precise 18650
18650 wake til bedtime battery power combined with Low Resistance atomizers and good juice, you're set.
But, in the Precise, you're paying a premium for top notch craftsmanship. There are other big battery mods (other 18650s too) which will provide nearly equal functionality, and many of them at a lower price. But if aesthetics matter to ya, take a look.
Lots of great mods out there which will meet your criteria, a number of them already mentioned here.
Good luck finding the one for you.
I've heard that Darwin's are the best all-rounders, and I suppose that shows in the price of them. Haven't been able to get my greasy mits on one yet though, due to their lack of availability in the UK! Am getting desperate!
Thanks so much for all your replies to my question! I have really learned a LOT! Thanks to everyone taking the time to explain, so carefully, about all the different options out there. I have to say that I am leaning toward the Provari because I haven't read ANYTHING bad about it, here or on other threads. I am going to decide for sure this weekend. Thanks again for sharing your experience. It was much appreciated! I feel very fortunate to have run across this forum!
And the bonus is...it got me moving out of the "Noobs" forum. LOL I can now have a signature!!! Yay!
And the bonus is...it got me moving out of the "Noobs" forum. LOL I can now have a signature!!! Yay!
That's fabulous! Enjoy your pv. With the research you have done, you are starting at a great place. I know you only want to buy ONE pv that will work for you, but since you are starting with some of the best options available, if what you buy isn't exactly what you want, you will still have a pv with really good resale value.
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