Trouble sticking to it, anyone else?

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SthrnCelt

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I think I'm gonna be OK. And if I fall I will just get back up and start again.

Danbrooks brutal honesty may not be what it takes to make you quit. He used medical terms and imagery which, for most reasonable people, will make them lay down those coffin nails and walk away....for a minute. The problem with cigarettes is the powerful addiction. Ok, bit of honesty here and something I'm not proud of. Back in the 80's I got into doing some illicit substances, the addictive nature of which is infamous. I lost my job and sold off everything I owned for more of the stuff. Once I was down to nothing my sister intervened and put me on a bus out of town. I never had another ounce after that, successfully quitting on my own will power. Not so with cigarettes. You can't say it's the ease of access to cigarettes because the drug I was using was and still is on virtually every corner. NO. Plain and simple, for many many people cigarettes are the most addictive thing in the world.

Why do I say all that? Certainly not to discourage you, but to let you know that you are trying to slay a monster. Don't think just because you read all these success stories and see the signature graphics of how people have been cigarette-free for x amount of time that it's somehow easy. Sure, it's easier for some than others, but some of us struggle greatly. I'm one of them. The thing is that it doesn't matter what you do, if you don't truly want to quit it ain't happening if you are one of those for whom smoking is the master. So don't pressure yourself or beat yourself up if you stumble. If you simply must have a cigarette, have one. But don't quit trying.
 

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For a long time, I was just like the OP, and sometimes I still am. I think it is true that we must remove the pressure we put on ourselves, and avoid beating ourselves up if we stumble--all that does is make cigarettes even more important and ensure future struggles. Rather, try to think logically about why you want to switch from smoking to vaping. Remember how bad you feel when you smoke all day. Remind yourself that you are trying to save your life. One thing that helps me is to read through the many success threads here on ECF. It does not matter than many here instantly switched without any further thought--the fact that they succeeded some how plants a seed in my mind that just maybe I can succeed, too. Success begets success, as the saying goes. Also, stay away from anything negative about vaping, or about quitting smoking.

If you have not smoked, then I don't want to encourage you to smoke. We all approach things differently. As for me, since I was initially getting nowhere with quitting, I decided that I could smoke in the mornings before work and in the evenings right before bed. So, whenever I got a crave during the day, I could just say to myself "later," and then the crave almost always went away, completely. So, this removed the pressure I always put on myself, allowed me to structurally stumble (rather, a controlled crash landing), and proved to me beyond doubt that my juice and gear provides enough nicotine to sustain me (in the beginning, I was not convinced of this). I am now working on reducing the number of cigarettes I have in the morning. In the evening, I typically have only one smoke right before bed, and many times I have skipped that smoke without any undue burden. If I have been vaping my face off all evening, I don't want to get nic-sick by topping up with a smoke. Morning smokes are a bit harder to limit, but if I could become accustomed to one in the morning and one in the evening, I think I would be stoked and also within spitting distance of dropping them altogether. This is my process based on my previous failures. I am sure that YMMV.
 

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My Dad had a very close friend who made millions of dollars with his commercial painting buisness in Texas. A really crazy guy we affectionatley refered to as "Uncle Tony".

He fell off of a suspension bridge in the late 60s and lived through a broken neck. He got hooked on Crack ....... and ...... in the 80s... he met a very nice christian lady and had two really wonderful sons. He was able to walk away from the drugs but chantix, wellbutrin, the patch, gum and hypnotherapy never could get him to quit smoking. Let me tell you... uncle tony had willpower for days. he built his buisness out of the back of a hearse he used as a work truck.

So dont feel like you are the only one who struggles with the strong grip of cigarettes... Tony never did quit cigarettes... he died of cancer at Herman Memorial hospital in Houston, his conditon was complicated by COPD and CHF. I was working as a paramedic at the time, I took my dad to see him. I literally sobbed in the bathroom after seeing him like that. It took me a year to finally quit even after that.

The biggest thing I did that helped was making sure to have a 24mg harsh juice loaded in a clearo and I immediatley started vaping it every morning ... like before the coffee was even ready... i forced it down like medicine... once I did I knew that trying to smoke a cigarette would have made me sick. It was an awful game I played with myself for a few weeks, I felt like a ...... Junkie, I hated being addicted and didnt understand why even with nicotine in my system why I still craved a cigarette.

But once I got past the craving for the other chemicals my body was used to... I mean once I got a little breathing room... Man I ran head long into vaping and regardless of cost I knew I was never going to smoke again.
 

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FWIW, cigarettes were my security blanket. I never went anywhere, not even from room to room, without taking my pack with me and probably a lit cigarette as well. 2.5 PAD of Marlboro Red 100s for 45 years. I was terrified (instant anxiety attack) at the thought of quitting - I mean, I started smoking at 15 and simply did not know how to deal with the world without a cigarette in my hand. I tried just about everything out there over the years to quit smoking, including hypnosis and acupuncture. When I decided to try quitting with vaping, I set up a schedule for myself to ease the transition and convince myself it could work. The first week I could not smoke, only vape, for 3 hours a day and the rest of the time I could smoke. The next week I increased it to 6 hours a day. I was never sure I could hold out that long... I was so scared that I'd fail and that the cigarettes would be stronger than me one more time.... But in the third week, at 9 hours, I found myself reaching for my e-cig instead of a regular cigarette even during the hours I was allowed to smoke! And that was when I began to feel like maybe I really could succeed. And so it went, increasing 3 hours a day each week until finally it was just vaping - and it worked! Now when the urge for a cigarette gets too strong, I vape WTA and that settles the cravings and makes me feel calm and at ease in my body... I still can't believe I succeeded. For me, vaping has been a true miracle.
 

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I felt the same way for a long time. It's what I always did, the phone rang and I would grab the pack BEFORE answering! I am getting over a lot of that stuff and it has been years since I smoked in the house so I don't have the smell lingering. I actually hate the smell now, last time I quit I still liked the smell when I was around smokers or could smell it on their clothes, now it makes me wrinkle my nose. Blech! I am going to check out the WTA, it may be just what I need to get me over the hurdle.
Congrats to you for doing it, you inspire!
 
It really got better for me when I stopped trying to make it so vaping "matched" smoking. I expected it to be just like smoking, and nothing is just like smoking.

I got into rebuildables because I have always tinkered with electronics and it was easy to learn, but the huge flavor and clouds compared to an ego got my attention enough to spend some serious time with it, and my attention to "normal" cigarettes just faded away slowly. The last time I ran out of cigarettes I said I would just vape until I go to the store and pick up another pack. I haven't picked up that pack yet for 9 months so far. Just found this forum yesterday.
 

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I'm working on it myself- from two packs of Marlboro Lights a day to none- just huffing my vape like a crack addict. My doctor recommended vaping to quit smoking.

I've been able to handle coffee. I've been able to be around smokers. I can even smell them now. Yuck.

I've avoided alcohol entirely, as I smoked more when I was drinking and it is more important for me to stay off of cigarettes than to have a beer, some rum, or tequila. Maybe someday I can enjoy those things again, but for now, I'm not risking it.

You will do this when you are ready. I buried my parents and a brother who all died way too young from smoking. I still smoked for 7 years after by brother died.

From what I witnessed, I should have quit then, but I didn't.

I did find one thing that really helps when I'm fighting the urge: Google what is in cigarettes. The stuff in them is nasty. Would you purposely injest formaldehyde or rat poison? Nope? Then put the smokes down. All these things (and about 4,000 other chemicals) are in cigarettes. By the time you are done looking at the list of ingredients, the urge will have passed.

Maybe you want a new car or more cash in the bank or a super nice vacation. You can give loads of cash to the tobacco companies (in exchange for some "enjoyment" and a likely early horrible death) or use that cash and enjoy your life more and actually feel better while you are doing it. It's up to you. I don't know how old you are, but if you are young, I can tell you the years will fly by. You may think you have all the time in the world. It seems like I was just 30, and I'm pushing 50. My brother died at 53. Neither of my parents saw 70.

My wife commented today that I'm actually happier since I quit. I hadn't noticed until she said something.
 
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I had a hard time at first. I started vaping on and off back in 2010 when the options weren't all that great. I would vape while smoking or stop vaping all together and just smoke. It got easier when I got my first E-go. I think it was back in 2012 or so and I got a bout of Bronchitis like I would usually get every year. I picked up the ecig again and never looked back. Now that I'm into mods and rebuildables, it's more of a hobby for me now.

Advice is to get a good device and a couple of juices that you really like and it will be a bit easier.
 

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Once you have the reason why Cig's are so hard to quit the crystal clears up and it makes sense.

We are naturally receptive to Nicotine, your system is hard wired for it already even without smoking. Its one of the few substances that actually neurologically alter the brain chemistry. So not only are you trying to quit of your own power but now you've got a bigger issue of fighting altered chemistry in your body.

I had read stories of quitting cold turkey, and of course passing them off I decided to try it once, and only once. Depending on the day, hour and minute would depend on how I felt, think flu on steroids with temperature fluxes and the such. Anything would set me off from calm to rage mode and it pretty much was random. Every nerve in my body screamed at me to find a cig, I couldn't pass within 100 yards of someone smoking without drooling like a dog over a steak. The headaches kicked in the second day, scratch that, life ending migraines is a better description of it. I made it to half way though the 3'rd day, as soon as I had a cig everything stopped, my headaches went away and I felt better which is why I went out and researched what cig's had done to my body.

BT's negate to understand what it is to quit..er scratch that, they don't care about people that use their products. They won't ever admit that cigs cause physical brain alterations and are by far the most addictive "Drug" on the planet to date. It lines their pocket books and keeps food on the tables of their mansions so its all good I suppose to them. The next time you think you can't possibly quit with E-Cigs, ask yourself is that you talking or is that your brain talking. Either way take a moment to breath and find a way to vape. Sheer will power will pull you through this one and the reward is by far worth it.
 

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i was analog free for over a year now i find myself hitting the local 711 for a mt dew and a pack a smokes 3x a week. there's something in 'em thats drawing me back???

Here ya go, the answer to your question.

Why is it so hard to quit smoking? - HowStuffWorks

Maybe if you soak those cigs long enough and extract the chemicals you could turn it in to a pretty powerful household cleaner. Just a thought for waste not kind of frugalness :)
 

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Things that I keep in mind; it stinks, I stink, I taste like an ashtray, I can't smell, taste, or breathe as well.

Since cigs are boring to taste, I got into flavor-tasting. I am vaping Fruity Loops right now.

I make sure my nic level is right. I make small steps in lowering mine. I see many that try to lower it too quickly. When lowered from 18mg to 12mg, I had juice left in 18m g, so I bought the same juices in 12mg and mixed them. That made them 15mg. For future purchases, knowing 15mg is hard to find, I bought 18 and 12mg and mixed them.

Its a hobby, I WANT to stay away from cigs. I have spares. I have no excuses.
 

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For me, the biggest thing that got me off of the stinkies for good was learning how to rebuild and doing some mild cloud chasing. Dripping atomizers put out way more flavor vapor, hence you get more nicotine in a drag than off of a normal vaporizer... the hobby end of it really helped as well, making it so I had much less time to think about the cigs.

Not saying you should take that route, but before that I would have a cancer stick from time to time. When offered now, my knee jerk reaction is "No, thank you."


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It's been said here several times already but the biggest thing that has worked for me is finding a device that I enjoy using and a flavor of juice I like.
I smoked coffin nails for 35yrs and enjoyed it but I started getting the signs telling me it was time to quit. I knew I was hooked on nicotine,the only drug I've never been able to walk away from. First I got a little pipe looking device with a Kanger protank and some 30mg sweet cigar flavored juice. The battery on the thing was draining within just a couple hours so instead of buying a pack of cigs I upgraded to the istick. It was soon apparent that the protank wasn't gonna cut it so I upgraded to an Aspire mini nautilus. Man what a difference but now I was filling the thing three to four times a day. Soooo,I upgraded again to the 5ml nautilus and after making a few mods to increase airflow and vapor production now I'm in hog heaven. My nic level is now down to .5mg and if I never pic up another cig it will be too soon.
So the long and short of it is;
1, Get yourself a device that doesn't drive you mad.
2, Find a juice that you really LOVE,maybe try your hand at making your own. It helps with the expense and it's fun.
3, Don't try to decrease your nic level too fast,do it in stages.

Just my stinky opinion, CM
 
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Just put in an order for WTA juice. I got unflavored in 24mg as I don't want to have a disappointing experience with a bad flavor so I figured I could add this to the juice I know I already love and see if it helps get me over this last hurdle. Now it will be a game of figuring out the right mix, but I love to play around with this stuff so I will enjoy the challenge. :)
 
I would add to all the great advice to take it one day at a time. All of us can either:
- smoke for the rest of our short, miserable lives;
- keep trying to find an effortless way to quit;
- hang on one more day by vaping.

It's so true that vaping will never be smoking. I still think about cigarettes sometimes, but after about 11 months of only vaping I turned a corner where cigarettes stopped being an option for me. I just could never smoke again. That is a miracle!

Good luck to all of us! Thanks for the great discussion LeftofCenter.
 

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I feel for you. Ive been analog free since July 5th so about 6 months and still get little cravings when I smell one.

I started smoking at age 13 and continued the habit for 40 years. When I started vaping my intention was not to quit smoking, but rather so that I could still get nicotine while working since sometimes Im too busy to take a break.

At first it was hard and the monkey was always on the verge of going ape ;)
My thing was to never pressure myself. If I had a cigarette then I had one. I wasn't going to beat myself up over it because for every cigarette I managed to avoid, I was healthier for it.

I wish you the best of luck in giving up the smokes. Remember, there is an enitre community here that wants you to succeed and we've all been there.

Cheers!
 
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