As I've read through several threads on the topic of "vanilla" flavored juices, there doesn't seem to be a concise definition of vanilla IMO. I've seen endless recipes of custards and have been vaping Colossus by Cyclops vapors, which is by its definition, a vanilla custard. Quite frankly, I'm ready for a true vanilla. I'm talking about a Madagascar bourbon vanilla, with the aromatic notes and aromas of a Tahitian vanilla combined with the woody, hard to define finish of a Mexican vanilla. I'm looking for that "bean" that'd be great ground up and put into a batch of homemade vanilla ice cream at the family's summer reunion at the park. As this will be a DIY, everyone's experiences with "vanillas' will be greatly appreciated! Please describe the notes in the flavors of the DIY's you've used so far. Thanks!
True vanilla?
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Ditto, all of the ones I have found I would call more custardy or creamy than vanilla.
Okay so don't jump me in a dark alley but this is what I think of when you say that...
Custard's Last Stand (50/50)
Custard's Last Stand (50/50)
The "vivid vanilla" used in Blu cigalikes is really pretty good but you can't buy it except in blu e-cig cartridges which are -ridiculously- expensive. Johnson Creek Vapor company makes the Blu "Vivid Vanilla" juice but the vanilla flavored juice they sell from their own site tastes -nothing- like it. I've tried scores of ready-made juice that touted "Vanilla" in their name and while many people will claim this juice or that juice "tastes just like vanilla" or "It's the best vanilla I ever tasted" I've personally not found a single one I'd buy again. Taste is highly subjective but most of the ready made juice I've tried required significant "imagination" in order to discern any vanilla flavor at all.
I've also bought/sampled every single concentrated vanilla flavoring on the market. For me the best are "Holy vanilla" and "French vanilla" from DIYflavorshack and "Vanilla" from Lotus. Lotus vanilla is a true straight vanilla flavor although a bit subtle, it's mixed no higher than around 1% and I blend it with Holy vanilla. Holy vanilla is also a true straight vanilla flavor and is mixed at 7-15%. French vanilla tastes like French vanilla ice cream and is mixed between 7-15%. Two other concentrates I used to recommend have recently re-formulated their vanilla flavorings and no longer tastes anything like vanilla. Same problem with most concentrated vanilla flavorings on the market, they don't taste like vanilla, not even close. Pudding, cookies, wax candy or floral deodorizing room spray perhaps but not vanilla.
I extract tobacco and mix NETs. I enjoy hybrid (flavored) NETs and vanilla is my favorite secondary flavoring. For my Vanilla Tobacco I make a concentrated vanilla flavoring using 0.75% Lotus vanilla, 5% Holy vanilla and 7% natural bourbon (Madagascar) vanilla bean extract that I make myself. The extract provides a sweet earthy, woodsy vanilla undertone while the concentrated vanilla flavorings add the higher notes the extract lacks.
I've also bought/sampled every single concentrated vanilla flavoring on the market. For me the best are "Holy vanilla" and "French vanilla" from DIYflavorshack and "Vanilla" from Lotus. Lotus vanilla is a true straight vanilla flavor although a bit subtle, it's mixed no higher than around 1% and I blend it with Holy vanilla. Holy vanilla is also a true straight vanilla flavor and is mixed at 7-15%. French vanilla tastes like French vanilla ice cream and is mixed between 7-15%. Two other concentrates I used to recommend have recently re-formulated their vanilla flavorings and no longer tastes anything like vanilla. Same problem with most concentrated vanilla flavorings on the market, they don't taste like vanilla, not even close. Pudding, cookies, wax candy or floral deodorizing room spray perhaps but not vanilla.
I extract tobacco and mix NETs. I enjoy hybrid (flavored) NETs and vanilla is my favorite secondary flavoring. For my Vanilla Tobacco I make a concentrated vanilla flavoring using 0.75% Lotus vanilla, 5% Holy vanilla and 7% natural bourbon (Madagascar) vanilla bean extract that I make myself. The extract provides a sweet earthy, woodsy vanilla undertone while the concentrated vanilla flavorings add the higher notes the extract lacks.
Now that's what I'm talking about! Getting into personal preferences when making a vanilla. I don't want what's on the market, I want a DIY vanilla created by vapers who have found their Holy Grail of vanilla and would like to pass that knowledge on. Sounds like an addition of tobacco, albeit very subtle may just be the key to bring out a true vanilla. Thanks! I've got several concentrates on order, should be here within the week.
Ok, as of tonight my list for the true vanilla include, Vanillin TFA, Vanilla bourbon TFA, Vanilla tobacco TFA and TFA sweetener. I ordered the vanilla tobacco because I recently ordered a vanilla bean e-liquid that I tried as soon as it arrived. All I tasted was tobacco. Granted it was a very good tobacco, it was still the standout flavor of an unsteeped juice. I'm still in the process of letting this one steep. I ordered the vanilla tobacco in hopes of getting the "What is that I'm tasting?' subtle flavor note I hope to have in this juice. Thanks to str8vision for his recommendations and I'm interested in the Custard's last stand now Bionicunderwear. If for nothing else to see where it's flavor profile would fit into this.
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