Truth about Ravens and the AGR?

Status
Not open for further replies.

jlinko

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 28, 2011
241
59
Ohio
I've seen a few posts about the Raven non-flanged still not fitting the AGR tank, and some that say they do? Can we get a straight answer? I just don't know what version of Raven or AGR they were talking about...will these Ravens that are up now fit the AGR that's out now (v. 2, i believe)? Some say you'd have to grind-off a lip at the bottom to get it to fit...Thanks!
 

rdsok

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 17, 2012
16,213
72,567
Norman, Ok
I believe, and this is just a guess... that much of the confusion about this subject has been caused by users that obtained their Raven's ( or even possibly the AGR's ) from other sources which made keeping the various versions, and possibly in some cases some fake ones... straight and we ended up with conflicting info because of it.
 

WallyO

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 26, 2012
1,980
3,218
Cicero,IL
In an effort to provide further clarification. Both my Raven and AGR tank came from GV. Unless one or the other changed in the past 3-4 weeks they will not go together without a minor grind or filing on the slight lip on the Raven bottoms. I may be mistaken, but I remember reading somewhere that Bad was going to have them correct that on future Raven batches.
 

rdsok

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 17, 2012
16,213
72,567
Norman, Ok
In an effort to provide further clarification. Both my Raven and AGR tank came from GV. Unless one or the other changed in the past 3-4 weeks they will not go together without a minor grind or filing on the slight lip on the Raven bottoms. I may be mistaken, but I remember reading somewhere that Bad was going to have them correct that on future Raven batches.

You know, it was rather presumptuous of me, but I had assumed you had gotten yours from GV. I know I get the majority of my hardware from them with only the few exceptions being mostly items they don't carry... my e-juice does come from other vendors ( except Hush which I really, really like ) because GV doesn't make NET e-liquids
 

sfeltch

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 8, 2013
132
106
63
Hanover, Pa
I grinded the edge of my raven to get them to fit the AGR. The problem for me was they worked for one night then flooded and leaked the next day. Did this on the AGR and on my Lava Tank. They are also smaller in diameter than the cartos I use in both these tanks. Didnt measure them but I can assure you they are by the way they slip in.

Anyway, I loved them long time for one night.
 

nathkiira

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 27, 2012
1,180
2,801
TN, USA
I grinded the edge of my raven to get them to fit the AGR. The problem for me was they worked for one night then flooded and leaked the next day. Did this on the AGR and on my Lava Tank. They are also smaller in diameter than the cartos I use in both these tanks. Didnt measure them but I can assure you they are by the way they slip in.

Anyway, I loved them long time for one night.

odd... i've had one raven sitting in a pyrex tank for a month now on a gripper..full of juice ..no leaks, another raven in an x8 vaped to the slot..no leaks, a third raven sitting in its original tank full in a coin tube for 2 months..no leaks

i did have two that leaked ..one i was a bit rough with putting it into a tank and it caught on the o-ring (wasn't the stock tank) .. and another that leaked in a 25mm pyrex tank that would build way too much pressure (fixed that by resetting the raven and pressure in the tank)
 

nathkiira

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 27, 2012
1,180
2,801
TN, USA
Lucky you. Wish I had the same luck. Tanks are back to Lava Tank cartos and boges for the AGR. Not leaking or flooding. I still have 3 to try (I had 6). Maybe try them again soon, really wanted a carto without the filler.

my advice is to keep at it..and take note of what you're doing or did when one started to leak ..figure out whats going on and go from there.. when you get the ravens going they're great..and can last a really really long time (even longer if you do a dry burn once in a while) and the flavor from them is far above a filler carto.
 

harmonic

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 20, 2011
5,157
11,413
49
Desoto, Mo
You can wiggle the center post out just a hair on the carto and pull the pin up just a hair in your mod. You didn't specify if you are using the extra base piece that's included with the agr tank to lock the carto in place. I have found with the one I have that it can be used with out this base piece but the 510 threads from the carto don't stick out as far as normal. I don't know if this would keep it from working though I haven't really played with the tank that much as I already have too many things going and not enough juice to go around lol
 

sfeltch

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 8, 2013
132
106
63
Hanover, Pa
UPDATE!!!!!

Last Night.

Dumped my juice from the AGR and cleaned it. Filed down the lip on the non-flange Raven carto. Assembled the tank completely with carto installed. Removed the fill hole screw and filled the AGR the way intended by the manufacturer through the fill hole with needle. Set in a small shot glass to see if it floods during assembly.

No current evidence of liquid or moisture anywhere on the 510 heads or anywhere else for that matter. Should be ready to roll, but will wait till morning to view it, since it happened overnight the 1st time.

Next Morning (today)

No liquid in the shotglass at all. Barely enough on the 510 connection to exist on my finger when wiping across the connection. I have an hour ride to work and vaped it on the way, loaded the AGR on my ego -c twist and still vaping at work. All is working well right now. I am appreciative of the help I've received here getting this resolved. I'm still not sure why I had issues with 3 different Raven cartos and 2 different tanks, but I'll keep an eye on it and try to figure it out. My original review on Gotvapes website regarding the Ravens still stands. I'll be retiring my "normal" cartos and buying these Ravens as I am extremely happy with the design concept not to mention the favor and the quality vape I am getting from them.


Now....when are we going to see non flange cartos we dont have to grind for the AGR? And do the flanged Ravens fit the UDCT Tanks?
 

VapingTurtle

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 26, 2011
17,702
50,237
68
The Reef just off the Florida coast
...
Now....when are we going to see non flange cartos we dont have to grind for the AGR? And do the flanged Ravens fit the UDCT Tanks?

Really glad they are working out for you now!

Badkolo has said they are working on the correction so no one has to grind. (Except for those that make money doing various types of grinding. They may still grind. Show 'em, girls.)

The flanged Ravens do not fit well in the UDCT or other Smoktech DTCs because of the lack of cutouts on the flange which lock DCCs into DCTs. (The diameter of the flange may also be an issue.)
 

Adrena

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Feb 14, 2011
18,022
61,983
Washington
Scratch my post stating I have a working Raven carto in a tank. Started leaking later that day. Couldnt get it to stop. Put a Boges back in after a loss of another 1/2 Tank of juice.

Well, as soon as I get more juice in the mail, I'm going to give it a try again. Here is what I did.

1) Sanded the flange down so the raven would fit my AGR. And it was a non-flange Raven. The slight flange prevented the raven from installing.
2)dropped 3 drops down the carto for priming.
3) I didnt fill the tank full. 3/4 full. I didnt fill through the fill hole, I filled with the top off. Then removed the fill screw and placed the top on. Relieving pressure in the tank slowly.
4) Started vaping. It worked wonderful. I loved it. Packed up my cartos and placed them in the drawer.

Next day, Juice all over the 510 connection. Gurgled from flooding. Blew it out from the bottom in hope of clearing it. Still gurgled. Vaped a bit hoping it would go away. No luck. Oddly enough I had the same scenario with the Lava Tank.

I'm telling you I really want these to work and will give it a try again. Just wish it wasnt so temperamental.



Still having probs with the raven carto you sanded working right in an AGR?
Toss it and stick the next raven carto in a raven tank.

See if that works better for you then a modded carto.
 
Last edited:

sfeltch

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 8, 2013
132
106
63
Hanover, Pa
Spiked my interest again tonight so I decided to confirm the carto was sealing off in the AGR tank, so I taped the holes shut on the Raven, inserted it in the AGR tank and filled with water. The exterior of the carto is sealing, no leaks. Eliminates an issue with the sanding of the small flange that protrudes beyond the diameter of the carto. It's leaking through the 501 connection.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread