Trying to find a certain flavor so I can make my own liquid!!

[IDJoel]

P.S. middle aged bachelor is the new 30.. and grey hair Imo is awesome!

Kelly, Bless you!

However, at 56 years old, and a muscle-to-fat index, that has shifted to fat-to-muscle index (at the same ratio!!!), is not sitting well with me.

As a child; I used to laugh at my dad, when he said "It's heck getting old!." Now, I only cringe.

I am still healthy, and able; but take much less for granted. And, love all of those, who choose to share their time with me. I only wish to share in kind.
Welcome to the ECF family.

 

[Katya]

Good to know! Thanks again Katya!

If you just want to make a small (5 ml) sample batch, weighing or trying to get 1/2 drop of flavoring into a syringe can be rather cumbersome.

Go slowly. Don't be intimidated by all the kits, syringes, vials, scales, pipettes and other scary pieces of equipment. Mix up a small test batch with your dropper, see how you like it. Maybe you'll prefer more flavoring, maybe less. Making your own eliquids doesn't need to be scary--it's like cooking, really. If/when you decide that DIY is what you want to do, and become more confident, then you can start buying more sophisticated gear. For now, have fun. Just measure everything accurately, and label everything.

 

[IDJoel]

Yes. That's how I started and it's still my preferred method. 1 ml is about 20 drops, ergo 5 ml is 100 drops.

@Katrya,
have you ever tried calibrating this (20 drops = 1mL)?

I have done it (using a 1mL calibrated syringe as a graduated cylindar); and can only get 30-65 drops per milliliter. Nothing close to 20 drops/mL. I have tried pure VG, PG, and various ratios. Along with, various tips, needles, and pipettes. I have yet to find anything close to the magical 20 drops per mL. What is your secret?

I do acknowledge, that Bill's "100 drop test" is a good rough ballpark guesstimate (when all components are equally unknown; it is as good as any)( nor does Bill claim any semblance of accuracy; but only a good starting point), when comparing/integrating flavors. But, NEVER, have I seen, a single comment say, how they get only 20 drops of any single ingredient, to the full milliliter. Perhaps pouring "drops" out of a beaker?

I am not trying to be a jerk. I genuinely don't understand where this "generally" accepted average came from.

 

[DeloresRose]

I don’t think you asked, but here’s one sure where you should be able to get everything you need. Also, check the Good Deals thread at top of DIY. Most of the codes are old, but there are lots of other sites listed there.

#1 DIY e Liquid, Flavor West, Flavor Apprentice, Liquid Nicotine

 

[Katya]

I do acknowledge, that Bill's "100 drop test" is a good rough ballpark guesstimate (when all components are equally unknown; it is as good as any)( nor does Bill claim any semblance of accuracy; but only a good starting point), when comparing/integrating flavors.

That's exactly what it is--the OP asked if it was possible to measure in drops and ditch the syringes and I answered that it was. Bill's idea is to use 100 drops total with each drop representing 1% of the whole. The size of the drops does not matter as long as you're using 100 drops of the same size (using the same dropper, bottle, pipette, whatever). Whether you get 3 mls of 5 mls as a result makes no difference whatsoever. It's all about proportions, not about how many drops go into 1 ml.

have you ever tried calibrating this (20 drops = 1mL)? What is your secret?

Yes. And no, I have no secret. It's a very rough guesstimate. It all started years ago, 11 or 12 years ago? Roughly? We were trying to figure out how many drops of eliquid to use to refill or fill a standard 1 ml cartomizer. At that time, we were using those small plastic squeeze juice bottles and they produced large drops, anything from 20 (high VG) to 30 (high PG) drops per ml, depending on the bottle, juice viscosity, etc. There were two ways to refill a carto--the condom method and the dripping from the bottle method. For those who preferred dripping from the bottle, the standard advice was to use 20-25 drops until the filler looked slushy but not overflowing.

I genuinely don't understand where this "generally" accepted average came from.

Do you use juice calculators? Per eJuice Me Up calculator 1 ml = 20 drops.

http://ejuice.breaktru.com/images/ejuice.jpg

If you want to learn more, here's a fun read:

Search Results for Query: 20 drops 1 ml | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[zoiDman]

Hmm. Im also wondering if it's POSSIBLE to measure the flavor in drops and ditch the syringes? ...

Absolutely.

As long as you use the Same Size Eyedropper every time, your Recipe(s) will be Accurate and Repeatable.

Where people get in Trouble (with drops) is when they use a Eyedropper with a Big Opening on a recipe. Then the Next Time they do the recipe they use an Eyedropper with a Tiny Opening.

So the Drops Size was Different.

Then they usually come to the ECF and Bash the Use of Drops when doing DIY.

LOL